Healthyfoodie Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I've noticed that avocados, olive oil, and egg yolks give me a brain fog and make me sleepy. Almond butter and nuts are good, but I'd like to include fats in my meals that are optimal for weight loss. I read on here that a tablespoon of coconut butter is not ideal for this. Can you recommend which fats and what portion sizes will assist with this and not make me tired? By the way thank you to those who recommended magnesium powder! I sleep like a baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Where did you read about coconut butter not being an ideal fat?If you're trying to avoid avocado, anything olive based and eggs, you still have lots of fat options. - Anything coconut based: oil, butter, flakes, milk.- Compliant bacon fat, duck fat, tallow, clarified butter, ghee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healthyfoodie Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 I got it from Tom Denham's post here: http://forum.whole30.com/topic/10180-is-coconut-butter-one-of-the-limited-nut-butters/ Olive based and eggs make me tired. Is there a fat that does not make you sleepy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I got it from Tom Denham's post here: http://forum.whole30.com/topic/10180-is-coconut-butter-one-of-the-limited-nut-butters/ Olive based and eggs make me tired. Is there a fat that does not make you sleepy? Ok, how I interpret Tom's post is not to eat coconut butter by the spoonful, as in directly out of the jar and into your mouth. I suggest you test out some of the other fats I listed to see whether you have a better response to ingesting them. The Whole30 meal template has recommended serving sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healthyfoodie Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Why is that different than adding it to your meal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Why is that different than adding it to your meal? What he is referring to is, I believe, standing over a jar of coconut butter and mindlessly continuously spooning it directly into your mouth, like a treat. If you add it to a meal instead (e.g., top a sweet potato with it), you're less likely to overeat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlaccini Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Have you ever ate peanut butter by spoonful out of the jar? Basically what Tom is saying is don't replicate this type of behavior with a more healthy food choice. The whole 30 is to help you repair your body but also to repair your RELATIONSHIP with food as well. If you can have a spoonful of coconut butter and be done - fine. But we would like to discourage binge eating type behaviors of the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healthyfoodie Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 So, I tried coconut oil and same thing, it is giving me a brain fog. How can I avoid feelings sleepy when eating fat? Does anyone know why this is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted February 13, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 13, 2016 Did you have the coconut oil on its own? Did you feel tired at all before you ate? What do the rest of your meals look like? This is not something I've heard other people on the forum say they've experienced, so I'm not quite sure what to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healthyfoodie Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 I felt great before I ate it. They are all a palm size of chicken or tuna and about 2 cups of broccoli, carrots, cauliflower and some other veggies. My fat will include half an avocado or tablespoon of almond butter. Sometimes I will have a handful of squash with meals. I eat the veggies first and I feel good and after about an hour or two I feel sluggish and another hour or two later it's gone and I can think clearly again. My sister did tell me this happened to her when she tried including fat in her diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healthyfoodie Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 I also have red meat and salmon once or twice a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer5 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I am more inclined to think it is the combination of the starchy veggies and the fat, together. Have you tried a meal without the starchy veggies, but including these fats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healthyfoodie Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yeah, it happens with and without the starchy veggies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Good fats are unlikely to cause brain fog because our brains are made up of about 60% fat and so we NEED fat in our diets for good brain health.Good fats are actually proven to lift that fog.You say that the almond butter & nuts are okay - I'm guessing it's because they're a little more carby, and that's maybe what you're used to. You don't mention what day you are on but I'm guessing you're still in sugar burning mode. Are you eating much in the way of fruit? Snacking?Are you on any medication?How is your sleep? Are you particularly active? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Have you tried animal fats? (such as duck fat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healthyfoodie Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 I haven't tried animal fat. I'm on my second whole 30, day 20. I'm not eating any fruit and I have a mini meal before bed or else I wake up at night starving. I was having trouble with sleep, but with magnesium it is perfect. I can go 4-5 hours without eating. The sluggishness seemed to last longer with the coconut oil than with avocados. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer5 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 You say that the almond butter & nuts are okay - I'm guessing it's because they're a little more carby, and that's maybe what you're used to. You don't mention what day you are on but I'm guessing you're still in sugar burning mode. The sluggishness seemed to last longer with the coconut oil than with avocados. I think this ^ goes along with what jmcbn is saying. There are zero carbs in coconut oil, and about 17 carbs in an entire avocado. Do you want to post a few days of food ~ so that we can see the entire picture? It could be that just a few tweaks are needed to get you feeling your best consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healthyfoodie Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 M1: can of tuna, tblspn of almond butter, 2 cups broccoli cauliflower, carrots M2: Palm size of chicken, same veggies as M1, half an avocado M3: Palm size of chicken, same veggies as M1, half an avocado Mini meal: handful of squash and handful of nuts or half Palm size of chicken I eat pretty much the same every day, sometimes I will have squash for meal one as well and add a couple nuts for M1 and M2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Ok, so you're not eating fruit, but you ARE eating starchy veg (carrots, & squash if we're talking something like butternut) at every meal - four times a day. I think this is probably more responsible for your brain fog than any fat is.I'd leave the starchy veg for meal three only, and add in the likes of spinach, kale, cabbage, sprouts, bok choi, zucchini etc at meals one & two and see how you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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