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  1. 618 points
    Melissa Hartwig

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  2. 577 points
    Melissa Hartwig

    Forum Rules

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  3. 93 points
    juju

    The crazy things people say

    "salad is not a food!" wha-what? I still wonder what they think salad is. One of my favorites was a vegetarian co-worker who was drinking a Diet coke and eating Fritos and a hostess cupcake told me that the grassfed steak on my salad would give me colon cancer. I looked at her lunch and then at mine and said "that is a risk I am willing to take."
  4. 88 points
    "Grocery shopping" takes place at more than 3 locations.
  5. 80 points
    This thread kicks booty! I laughed out loud more than once. (The "gets mad when sees paleo pancakes marked as Whole30 approved" was my favorite.) Maybe me and Melissa Joulwan need to make a video called "Sh*t Whole30 girls say." Melissa
  6. 59 points
    Derval

    The crazy things people say

    "Oh , I couldn't give up x, y, z" Well, d'uh you could, you just don't want to.
  7. 52 points
    Jessica

    The crazy things people say

    After I finish explaining briefly what paleo/Whole30 is: "So you're doing Atkins?"
  8. 52 points
    Tom Denham

    Do you find yourself judging?

    I keep one copy of It Starts With Food in my car and give it away whenever I am talking to someone I like who shows some interest. I keep a few copies at my house too, so I am never without. However, I never start talking with people about food. And if food comes up, I talk about what I am cooking and how good it is. I wait for people to ask me serious questions before I share serious information about healthy eating. I treat food like religion. I am a religious person and am happy to share my faith, but know that pushing religion closes doors. If you really want to share your beliefs (about food or religion), live well, be open and friendly, and people will invite you to share when they are ready to listen.
  9. 47 points
    Flynn

    The crazy things people say

    "Fruit will make you fat" - a fat coworker who doesn't eat fruit. "I could never eat as much as you" - a fat coworker who eats lean cuisine every day "How do you eat so much chocolate and stay so fit?" - random coworker and my favorite..."that's the biggest salad I've ever seen"
  10. 39 points
    "You are not your bra-size, nor are you the width of your waist, nor are you the slenderness of your calves. You are not your hair color, your skin color, nor are you a shade of lipstick. Your shoe-size is of no consequence. You are not defined by the amount of attention you get from males or females. You are not the number of sit-ups you can do nor are you the number of calories in a day. You are the content of your character. You are the ambitions that drive you. You are the goals that you set. You are the things that you laugh at and the words that you say. You are the thoughts you think and the things you wonder. You are beautiful and desirable not for the clique you attend, but for the spark of life within you that compels you to make your life a full and meaningful one. You are beautiful, not for the shape of the vessel, but for the soul it carries."
  11. 38 points
    I'm one of them. I used to be vegetarian when I was young, drifted away from it and then went back about 5 years ago. Doing nothing by halfs I became vegan (with the exception of honey) and then a raw food vegan. I had a whole shelf of raw food books. I studied and studied it. I swore by Boutenko and Wigmore. I juiced, I sprouted, made bucketfuls of green smoothies and was convinced my diet was the healthiest it could be. The trouble was I didn't feel that way. Everyone kept telling me I could take years to fully detox so to stick with it. The crunch came when I was diagnosed with a really aggressive breast cancer. For other reasons I'd been scanned head to toe, two years previosly and not a trace of cancer. Now, after two years as a raw food vegan, I'd a large cancerous mass which had already spread to 12 of the 14 lymph nodes in my arm. Everyone in the raw food movement went on about how chemo was poison, operations would merely spread the cancer. Cancer could be cured by diet, stick to that. I was frustrated and angry; I'd been on that kind of diet when I devoloped it, what confidence could I have that it would cure it. I opted for conventional treatment, radical mastectomy, lots of chemo etc and basically ate what I could keep down, still mainly vegetarian, lots of quinoa, hummus and loads of fruit and veg etc. Afterwards I still tried to follow cancer protocols, lots of juicing etc. I kept reading, as I still believed food has to be the basis of all health but i felt paralised about making the right choices. I came across Mark Sisson's Primal Diet and was intrigued, I searched other paleo sites and came across this one. I read the book and couldn't argue with the logic - it made sense. I'd had the odd bit of chicken and fish but going back to eating red meat took a real leap of faith. I decided, with much trepidation, to try it for 30 days. I simply moved all my grains and legumes aside so that I could go back to them if this didn't work. Well I'm now on day 52 and there's no going back. It hasn't all been plain sailing, it's been a bit bumpy in patches but I know this is how I want to continue eating. It's hard to explain but my body feel like it's being nourished and yesterday my oncologist discharged me with nothing more than yearly checkups and she was absolutely delighted with how well I look. I think that took her by surprise. I know none of the above is what you wanted to hear; ethically I'd much rather be a vegan but, healthwise, it just doesn't do it for me. I'm still extremely fussy about what meat I eat. I've become friendly with one of the farmers at the local market and have extensively questioned them about how their animals are raised, how they're looked after and how they're slaughtered. I won't eat factory farmed meat, not just for health reasons, but because I want no part in colluding with the animals suffering. Whether this can be done as a vegetarian I really couldn't say but I'm sure others must have tried it. Good luck whatever you decide.
  12. 38 points
    My fav is still the one about not licking our fingers. That makes me laugh every time. Last week I made oatmeal cookies with my daughter for a camp party and she asked if she could lick my fingers since I wasn't going to.
  13. 37 points
    Thank you for this! They have this conversation with the TJ's cashier (and this was yesterday) Me: do you have Larabars? Cashier: yes, many kinds. Do you want me to hold your place in line while you run over? Me: No. Thank you but I can't have them right now. Cashier: but they're just fruit and nuts Me: I know, but I have an unhealthy psychological relationship with them. They feel like dessert. Cashier: but they're just fruit and nuts
  14. 36 points
    One of the single biggest life-changing moments for me was on page 29 of ISWF when they say, in bold, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. I feel like I spent so much of my life trying to do the "right" thing and eat the "right" food and do what "they" told me to do. And it was all crap. I was digging through a drawer and found some old cookbooks me and my Mom bought when I was in high school (95-97). One is titled "So fat, low fat, no fat" and the other is "Outrageously Delicious Fat-Wise Cookbook." It is so depressing to read through these books, and see things that me or my Mom highlighted, underlined or starred as important, and to know that we followed these rules and suggestions because we believed them, and thought we were doing better for ourselves. Some highlights: "The following are healthy items while in the airport or on your drive: bagels, rice cakes, vanilla wafers, graham crackers, ginger snaps, licorice, popcorn and pretzels." "Stick to about 10 grams of fat a day. Breakfast is easy-- english muffin (1 gram of fat) with jelly (no fat). Lunch bread (fat free) mayo (fat free) mustard, lettuce, pickle, 98% fat free lunch meat and some fat free cookies, cake or candy. So far today you've had about 4 grams of fat, you're doing good!" "Count your fat grams and you don't have to worry about the calories." (This cookbook lists only fat gram information per recipe, not any other nutritional information!) And the best: "Keys to Lifelong Weight Control 1--Avoid fat foods. 2 -- Eat lots of whole grains, whole fruits, beans and most vegetables" including a quote from the Surgeon General's 1988 report "the single most influential dietary change one can make to lower the risk of diseases is to reduce intake of foods high in fat and to increase the intake of foods high in complex carbohydrates and fiber." I actually texted my sister and said reading those sections (underlined with stars beside them) made me want to cry. Or burn them in an "f you" ceremony, for so unscrupulously leading me astray. Obviously, we have a new way of thinking now. But I can hardly read "health" magazines anymore because I can't continue to get bombarded every month with the crap they are telling me to eat. I have a hard time watching "morning shows" continue to spew the same "weight loss information" (aka bullsh*t) over and over again (although, THANK YOU to Dr Oz for saying on The View's "Fat Show" yesterday that "fat is not to blame for the obesity epidemic in America.") I feel sick going on Pinterest and seeing all the "healthy recipes" posted that consist of garbage (nevermind the unhealthy ones, yowsa). It's not just chaning the way I eat, it's changing everything. It's a shift of consciousness and awareness. So when they say "Let Us Change Your Life" they're not kidding.
  15. 35 points
    Renee

    The crazy things people say

    Carla 1#/week is actually a great average, congrats! When I talk about the Whole30 program, I often get negative response from people who think it's too restrictive. Their answer to health and weight loss: Everything in moderation. I have two problems with this: 1: Everything: Everything? Really? So a moderate amount of cocaine is alright? How about arsenic? Sure, these are obvious things, but there also are less obvious things. Bread in moderation doesn't work if you're sensitive to gluten. Milk in moderation doesn't work if you're lactose-intolerant. There are also MANY signs of inflamation that are much more subtle than all of this. And you don't know until you self-experiment. Eating everything in moderation won't teach you anything about your body. 2. Moderation: There are no "guidelines" for moderation. If I eat sushi once a month, most people would say that's moderation. If I go to a restaurant once a month, that's still moderation. Same thing for candies, for baked good, cheeseburger, fries, chocolate, ice cream.. But if I add all these up, it's not moderation anymore. Nobody knows what "moderation" means to their body until they remove some foods from their diet, then reintroduce. Then again, we're back to W30/strict paleo. And just by the way, I've never seen anyone improve hormonal response, improve their digestion, their sleep, etc. just by eating everything in moderation. Health is NOT just about weight, people!
  16. 35 points
    They feel guilty when they lick an envelope.
  17. 35 points
    You have a t-shirt that says "WHEAT is murder".
  18. 34 points
    jhmomi

    Congrats on Baby9!

    Congratulations Dallas and Melissa. I saw your FB post and wanted to make sure all the forum folks knew your good news! The FB post said Baby9 is due in April.
  19. 34 points
    Phanniemae

    The crazy things people say

    Bf: Is coconut milk okay? Me: yes Bf: but aren't you not doing milk? Me: ...
  20. 34 points
    Melissa Hartwig

    Plan a Whole30 dream vacation

    I would go to Costa Rica (we've been trying to plan a trip there for ages). We'd rent a house on the beach, close enough to town that we could hit the market for fresh produce and fish. Our house would have an awesome kitchen, where we'd cook all of our own food... but we'd also have daily cleaning service, so we never had to clean up after ourselves. Fresh fish and seafood, mango salsa (we'd go during mango season, of course), fruit smoothies (because when you're on vacation, it's okay to go a little crazy), and tons and tons of fresh salads, because when I'm south of the border, I'm always craving greens. There would also be this little place in town that served pulled pork, chicken, and beef, and they could make us lettuce tacos with fresh salsa and mole sauce any time we asked. Yum. I'd focus a ton of fun and play, and surf, paddleboard, and do yoga. There would also be awesome mountain biking trails nearby in the hills (hey, it's MY vacation), and we'd take our bikes up there a few times, too. And we'd find an awesome, giant boat to take us fishing and snorkeling, and we'd eat fish we caught right off the boat, sushi-style. I forgot about that part. Heaven. Someday.
  21. 33 points
    You see them in the sausage aisle saying, "Are you kidding me? Seriously? Who puts sugar in that?" and stamping their foot like a two-year old. They have a freezer FULL of Applegate organic hot dogs. Every single day, they're hard boiling eggs. They go into ecstasy over a little coconut butter. They have ten kinds of tea in their cabinet.
  22. 32 points
    LRM

    WHOLE 100 - DONE!

    I can't believe I am actually writing this post. When I started my first Whole 30 on July 1, I was hoping I might make it through the first week, but I wasn't sure. Well, this past Monday, October 8, I completed my 100th day of the Whole 30 program, and my life is forever changed. For years I'd been struggling with inflammation related illnesses, sinus infections, IBS-C, allergies, joint pain, fatigue, brain fog, depression, bingeing, eating disorders, and hypthyroidism. I lost my thyroid to cancer in 1991, and as I get older it has become increasingly difficult to maintain wellness and keep my thyroid levels stable. My weight was up, my energy was down- I was a hot mess. In January I began working with a personal trainer one day a week. She told me losing weight and getting in shape was 80% diet. I smiled and nodded, certain that rule didn't apply to me. For years I could eat Peppermint Patties for dinner and still drop lbs. Clearly she was not aware of my ability to lose weight easily - just as soon as I mastered this exercise thing. Over the next few months I struggled through my workouts. I was dizzy, nauseous, and felt like I would pass out all the time. I never lost an ounce, no matter how many Lean Cuisine entrees I ate. Finally my trainer talked to me about giving up sugar and starches. Say what? For the next few weeks I cried at my desk as I mourned the loss of pizza, muffins, and energy bars. The cravings were so bad that I would shake. My jaw would tingle, and my whole body just hurt. Thank God I still had my Diet Coke and coffee with 3 packs of Sweet n'Low to help me cope. I lasted a little over a month but gradually went back to my old ways. Soon after, I was visiting friends who were involved in Cross Fit. They began telling me about this program where I could change my life in 30 days by changing the way I ate. "Whole What????? I don't think so." As I listened to them rattle off a list of all the restrictions, I tossed another chocolate egg (it was Easter) into my mouth, crossed my arms, stamped my foot, and said "Hell NO!" There was NO WAY I would EVER give up artificial sweeteners, Diet Coke, or haf/half. It wasn't going to happen. After an hour or so they just gave up and left me alone to finish off the chocolate. A few days later, after feeling dizzy (again) I decided to research this Whole 30 thing, and for some reason I pre-ordered the book. It arrived on June 26, and on July 1 I began the journey. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't hard. It took a lot of planning and preparation, and I had to cancel many social engagements just so I could stick to it. The first week was rough. I felt weak and tired all the time. My workout session with my trainer (day 2) was pretty typical of the last few months. I was tired, I struggled, I was dizzy, and I couldn't wait to be done. The following week's session (day 9) was interesting. I was still tired, and weak - so weak, but strangely enough, I did not experience any nausea or dizziness at all. Weird. Oh, I wanted to die, but I certainly didn't feel like I would pass out. Day 16 was magical. I made it through my most challenging workout since January, strong and full of energy. I had just as much energy at the end of my session as I did at the beginning. Plus I could tell I lost some weight, and my skin looked better. People also started noticing that I just seemed happier. And the best part - the program was starting to get easier. The cravings were not so strong and my head felt clear for the first time in years. I decided to push through and do a Whole 45. As the weeks past, I began to feel so much better, and wanted to continue the program. There were just too many health issues that needed more than 30 days to heal. Soon a Whole 45 became a Whole 60, then a Whole 75, and then finally I challenged myself to go all the way to 100 days. By this time, it was part of my life, and eating this way had become second nature. I definitely noticed a lot of changes in the first 30 days, but it wasn't until I hit day 65, that I really began to see huge changes. By the time I hit day 100, I knew I wanted to eat like this forever. What has changed for me: Depression has lifted No more bingeing No cravings - except for avocados. I LOVE them now. My disordered way of eating and obsessing about food is gone Food is just food - it does not control me Years of neck pain - GONE! Cholesterol dropped more than 36 points Moods even and stable Headaches and overall achiness - GONE! My skin looks great - no more dark circles under my eyes I feel stronger and healthier than I've ever been More energy than when I was a kid I smile more I've lost 10 lbs I've lost inches and really leaned out My eating has become consistent - I eat more when I'm hungry, less when I'm not. No big deal My sinus inflammation is better My allergies are better I sleep better.....I actually sleep Slow and steady is the way to go - no more crash diets for me I feel good about myself in a way I haven't in all my 45 years I still have a few digestive issues to work on, but I am slowly seeing some improvement. That will take some time. This week I added a tiny bit of grass-fed creme into my coffee, but that's the only change I've made. I plan to continue eating like this at least 95% of the time. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Dallas and Melissa for creating this amazing program. If it wasn't for you and Whole 30, I would be in such a bad place right now. You have helped me change my life in so many ways and I will always be grateful. To anyone struggling, keep going. The results may take some time but they are worth it. Sincerely, Lisa Rehm
  23. 31 points
    Jessica

    The crazy things people say

    "So what DO you eat???"
  24. 30 points
    Their freezer is full of picked-clean chicken carcasses waiting to be made into bone broth. I was going to take a picture of this but actually it's kind of gross. It's like Eraserhead 2 up in there.
  25. 30 points
    they are on farmers market at Saturday morning instead of sleeping they are able to buy and carry 20 pounds of organic beef on their own back across whole city they spend whole Sunday cooking, preparing and freezing they are only people who never touch free sweets at work they are angry if they see paleo pancakes labeled as "Whole30 approved" on Pinterest