LauraOC

Thank you for your feedback. This is how our Admin team was thinking, too, but wanted official clarification before responding to one our members on this product. Definitely clear on the no chips rule. We just weren't sure if this followed that rule, or the limit dried fruits rule. Thanks again for your quick, helpful response!

I think I know the answer, but want verification before we tell our group members anything. These are dehydrated bananas. Just organic bananas & banana powder. They are chewy, like other dehydrated fruit. So are they treated like banana chips or like any other dried or dehydrated fruit? My gut says the latter, but my reasoning says the former... Thank you for any guidance you can provide!

I have made it several times since I first posted this. I backed it down to 3 TBS, then just added more to taste. It's very good, but again, don't expect Heinz. I also added some onion powder. Good luck!

THANK YOU!!

@ladyshanny Has there been any official word on this product, yet? Looking for info to guide our FB group. Thanks!

Yes! Exactly.

Thank you so much for this perspective. I was coming up with blanks every time I tried to reason the date comment. I appreciate your thoughtful response!

I realize that. I've done many rounds of Whole30. I don't eat sugar or other sweeteners as a general rule & have gone without ketchup since my first round in 2013. However, the results of this recipe were very runny tomato-flavored vinegar. No other recipe I've found calls for more than a few Tbs, so I wanted to check & see if it was correct. Also, even here in the forum & in bloggers & sites that are Whole30 affiliates, many "Whole30" ketchup recipes include 1/4-1/2 cup of dates, which per the book, is not in the spirit of the program. I was just curious as to why that would be ok. I'm a moderator on a very large Whole30 group, and when we tell them these recipes really aren't in the spirit of the program, as the book says, they then say they got it from this forum or a Whole30 endorsed source. It causes a lot of confusion.

Speaking of typos... "fkavir?!" Um..."flavor"

I have searched the forum & have not found an answer to this question. I also sent messages to Whole30 a while back, but haven't received a response. Hopefully someone here can advise me... I have been trying to make the Whole30 Ketchup recipe from the Whole30 book, The 30 Day Guide to Total Health and Food Freedom. [moderator edit - you cannot post copyrighted materials here] I made it as suggested twice. But the vinegar was SO overwhelming that's all we could taste & it was very runny. I had to add two more cans of tomato paste & more cider to balance it, and even then it was a strong vinegar flavor, but in a good way. Is the 1/2 cup a typo?? Also, it says "We could use date paste to make our sugary, but that's not really in line with the spirit of the Whole30. This ketchup will have more of a lighter vinegar flavor, different but still delicious on eggs, burgers, and baked potato "fries." The "lighter vinegar flavor" sounds like the 1/2 cup might be incorrect. Every other recipe I find has,a max of 4 Tbs to 1 cup tomato paste. ALSO... the dates. Every other recipe I come across fir Whole30 ketchup calls for dates, even here on the forum. I'm confused by the contrasting statement in the book & the sweet recipes I keep sing posted by Whole30 partners calling sweetened ketchup Whole30. Some call for a whopping 1/3-1/2 cup of dates! Any clarification is appreciated. Thanks!

Thank you, @SugarcubeOD! I will relay this back to the other moderators in our group. I appreciate everyone's input! For the record, I completely agree...it sounds pretty disgusting to me, too.

@kirkor. I don't know. I don't have the cookbook, but I'll ask someone who does. I think it's just a recipe for cashew cream. By "they all", I meant those foods/recipes. I agree, though. It's an ownership thing. In our group, we go by the rules. But if something is ok, even if we don't agree with it, it's still ok. That's why we wanted some clarification.

No, this is similar to a cashew cream recipe in the Whole30 book. It's the application. Recreating a creamy, cheesy lasagna.

Thank you @River30 for your reply! You basically reiterated everything we've been saying as moderators. We don't see a difference between this, banana pancakes, sweet potato apple breakfast bake, paleo pizza crust, etc. They all seem to be trying to bend, stretch & break the rules.

I'm a moderator in a rather large Whole30 Facebook support grouo. This recipe is gaining momentum & though to be compliant. I cannot find anything here in the forum to really support that, or deny it. As moderators, we feel it is not ok, certainly not in the spirit of the Whole30. Can a moderator please clarify for us so we can pass along a more official position? "What You Need -1 lb PRE ground beef, 92% lean -2-3 medium zucchini -4 cloves garlic, diced -1 bag spinach or 1 box frozen spinach -1 can tomato sauce -1 can tomato paste -1 container sliced mushrooms (if you like them) -1 large white onion, diced -1 tsp ghee or olive oil -cooking spray -2 TBSP Italian Seasoning, divided -2 cups cashew cream (Make cashew cream by soaking 2 cups of cashews in 4 cups of water overnight. Drain the water in the morning. Put soft cashews into a blender with 2 cups of new water and puree until smooth.)" The rest is basically layering & baking like traditional lasagna. http://teacherpop.org/2016/03/teach-eat-repeat-recipe-whole30-lasagna/