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    Smoothie bowl success?

    Hi all, it's day 20 of my second Whole30 (after 1.5 year break) and I wanted an opinion on something. Almost every day, I've had two eggs, a piece or two of bacon, several handfuls spinach (cooked or not), a handful of sweet potato hash brown, and half an avocado for breakfast. I love this breakfast! However, this morning I was running extremely late and I made a smoothie instead. I have read a ton of forum posts and the whole30 book three or more times all the way through, so I know and understand why smoothies are discouraged. In my smoothie, I put half a can of coconut milk, a banana, 1/2 C frozen blueberries, half a zucchini, a modest spoonful (1 tbsp ish) of almond butter, and a little cinnamon. I also ate on the side about half a cup of shredded chicken thigh. I put the smoothie in a quart jar and layered in slivered almonds (maybe 1 tbsp) and coconut flakes (3 tbsp ish). I ate it with a spoon (in the car unfortunately while my sister drove us to school/work), and honestly I think it went ok. I had to chew it a lot because of all the coconut flakes, and near the end of it I was starting to feel pretty full, even though it was probably only 2.5 C in volume. I definitely felt a little more "empty" before lunch than I usually do, but I wasn't really hungry between breakfast and lunch (which is my norm). I recognize that there was more fruit in the smoothie than I would normally eat (and I won't be having any more today), and I definitely prefer my heartier routine breakfast option, but I think that this smoothie bowl experiment was actually pretty successful from a satiety perspective (the main complaint about smoothies in W30 other than the fruit content). If I do have any more smoothie bowls (doubtful), I'd probably omit the almond butter (so I can keep the slivered almonds for the crunch!) and replace the blueberries with another veggie (maybe several handfuls of spinach?). I'm interested to see what other people think about smoothies when they're eaten with a spoon/chewed and with a side of actual protein!
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    Smoothie bowl success?

    I found an article about how soup has benefits that smoothies don't have, and it looks like it really comes down to the bone broth and meat that are typically included in soups but not smoothies. So unless you're willing to blend meat into your "smoothie," you won't get those benefits from a smoothie. By this logic, savory soups that are water-based and don't have any animal protein wouldn't really be much better than smoothies (except that people are probably more likely to find smoothies to be a food with no brakes than any kind of savory soup). Take a look at the article if you're interested! https://www.thepaleomom.com/move-over-smoothies-and-juice-the-soup-rising-benefits-of-souping/
  3. While this may not be the same for you @Laura Thornock, I personally find Thanksgiving to be very Whole30-friendly! My favorite parts are the turkey (easy to make compliant), steamed green beans with butter (sub clarified butter), mashed potatoes (sub clarified butter and perhaps coconut milk), and cranberry sauce (which you could easily find with just regular sugar added instead of corn syrup, which is OK for reintroduction). I think the main things that are missing from a Whole30 Thanksgiving would be the stuffing, sweet potato marshmallow casserole, maybe green bean casserole, gravy (although there are Whole30 compliant recipes), and of course desserts like pumpkin pie. I never liked any of these things, so it's really easy for me to skip them! I'll be done with my extended reintroduction before Thanksgiving, but I intend to stay Whole30 for it because the dairy for sure isn't really worth feeling bad for the rest of the day when the substitutions are just as good. I'd rather enjoy the food but still feel on the ball to spend the rest of the day engaged with my family. My best advice would be to not choose ahead of time the things you think will be worth it to eat because you might not actually want those things by the time you get there. Maybe look up some Whole30 compliant Thanksgiving recipes to see how great the meal can still be while not sacrificing your reset or reintroduction period. It may turn out to be a lot of fun for you!
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    Different cheeses different reactions?

    @ArtFossil yes, I have a huge multi-tab spreadsheet for all this info! The only think left to reintroduce after dairy for us is gluten, but yes it does make a long reintro. It was scheduled to go from Oct 14 to Nov 16, but we had to add some extra days due to worse-than-expected reactions. @ladyshanny on the first dairy day (Oct 29) we did butter, heavy cream, and mascarpone, which all are more than 90% fat according to the nutrition facts I found. Even this caused me to have a negative reaction that I'm still dealing with four days later! Headache, sore throat, hoarse and painful voice (especially frustrating as a singer), and really bad moodiness yesterday. We've postponed the next dairy day until Nov 4 (after when I have to sing in case it messes up my voice again). This is the second time butter has given me a headache, so it looks like I'm destined to clarify butter for the rest of my life, lol. I'm hoping that some dairy items will be tolerable. We'll see!
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    Day 31 = Husband's Birthday!

    So you and your husband did the whole30 together I take it? My thoughts on this are that you don't have to do the same thing he does. Just because he wants ice cream and alcohol doesn't mean you need to have both with him. I'd go with the alcohol option for your reintro (since it's already the optional first thing to reintroduce), but look out for beer because of the gluten. A wine that you like would be a great idea. I'd say avoid the ice cream if you can, and if he really wants to have a non-dairy ice cream for his birthday just look out for the ingredients (you don't want to accidentally get corn or soy products while trying to avoid dairy). But if you've never had coconut milk ice cream before, it may be a let down if it tastes significantly different. And although it's ok to relax on the added sugar rule in items like sausage and ketchup once you start reintroduction, a big sugar hit like ice cream (even coconut) could have its own effects that you won't be able to separate from the alcohol if you have both. My birthday is in early January so I often have eliminated one thing or the other for new year's resolutions, and it's really not that bad to skip the treats on your birthday. I celebrate in other ways by having a good steak and hanging out with my family (and sometimes I'll have blueberries with coconut cream as my "treat"). I don't know when your husband's birthday is/was though; did it already happen? If so, what did you decide to do?
  6. I want to do a more detailed dairy reintroduction. I'm trying to separate out the effects of lactose, casein, and whey as much as possible. I read a really good breakdown of this on the forum somewhere, but I've done a bunch of google searches and I still can't find that post. Does anybody know what I'm talking about or can anyone recommend a good order to reintroduce dairy if I had all the time in the world to do it? Thanks!
  7. I just finished my third whole30 and have started a highly structured but extended reintroduction. One day 31, I reintroduced legumes (excluding peanuts and soy, which will each get their own day). I had homemade hummus with breakfast and we made some bean salad with cannellini beans, olive oil, and various spices as a side for lunch and dinner (so good with fresh rosemary and sautéed onion!). I had a little bloating but otherwise felt fine. Since then, however, my appetite has been terrible. Day 32, I had no interest in the frittata I had prepped, but I ate it anyway. By lunch, I only wanted carbs and didn't want the vegetable curry and chicken I had made. Instead, I got a compliant fruit smoothie (one of the Naked brand), a single serving bag of potato chips cooked in avocado oil and with only salt as the other ingredient, and a packet of almond butter (not the best choices, but it's what I did). For dinner I still wasn't hungry, so I had two meatballs (definitely not a whole serving for me, and no veg or added fat although they are made with almond flour). Day 33, repeat. I wasn't hungry in the morning but ate the frittata I had made (and I like how these taste, so I don't think it's burnout), at lunch I ate the veg curry but couldn't bring myself to eat the chicken, and at dinner I had 2.5 meatballs again with nothing else. I also had a little vegan 70% salted chocolate after dinner (date night!) because I'm not avoiding all added sugar so much now that I'm done with the 30 days, and I experienced this as almost a savory thing rather than a sweet or craving thing (who knew the flavor of cocoa was so complex under all that sugar I usually have with it?). What is going on? I have been consistently eating 3 eggs and at least one cup of veg with fat at breakfast for 4+ months, and I have been hungry every for breakfast morning since I finished my whole30 round 2 in mid July. I did really well on this round I just finished always getting 1-3 C veg, 1-2 palm sizes of protein, and 1-2 added fats of appropriate size at every meal, doing 3 meals a day, not needing any snacks between meals, eating within an hour of waking up, not overeating nuts (in fact, I hardly ever eat them), getting 0.5oz water for each lb of body weight, salting food, etc. I did notice an uptick in my dried fruit consumption during the last week of round 3 (leading up to my period might be the reason). I don't have a lot of weight to lose or craving issues, so I wasn't super worried about it at the time (and I still lost 8 more lbs on this round, so I felt fine with it). Could this loss of appetite have anything to do with reintroducing legumes or with the dried fruit? I don't have any other issues so I moved on to peanut butter today, but after eating an apple with 2-3 T peanut butter I'm not interested in eating anything else even though I brought my favorite soup for lunch. This is weirding me out! Sorry for the long explanation.
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    Different cheeses different reactions?

    I'm separating my dairy reintro into 6 days. I wanted to separate the effects of casein, whey, and lactose as much as possible, but I couldn't find enough information about casein vs whey levels in different items. So I just used the total protein amount and carb amount (from lactose) to separate things. I'm doing low lactose, low protein; low lactose, medium protein; medium lactose, medium protein; low lactose, high protein; medium lactose, high protein; medium lactose, highest protein (and ice cream if I want it). I couldn't find a lot of info about doing it this way so I don't know if it will help me understand my reactions to dairy, but that's what I've come up with so far. My thought process was that casein has the potential to be more allergenic than lactose, so I wanted to start off with the lowest amount of it and work up from there. Some cheeses also have molds which might be worth giving them their own day too, but I'm not doing that because I don't like those cheeses much.
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    Pretzels ok for grains with gluten reintro?

    Sorry you got no reply to this, but just in case someone does see it I wanted to post. This technically wouldn't work for a gluten reintro because it also contains corn oil and corn syrup, which are in the non-gluten grains category. I don't know how much it matters since they're both grains, but I personally would separate them.
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    Hives and thrush - day 12

    This is really extreme! Did you find out what was going on, @Kmalfaro and @kvallejo?
  11. @Getwell, I'm so sorry to hear that you're feeling this ill! Starting a new eating protocol can result in some digestive distress, especially if it's significantly different from how you were eating before. However, feeling so sick that you think you might need to quit your job seems (to me) to be way beyond the possible side effects of a whole30. It's possible that you aren't eating enough, which could definitely contribute to fatigue. I don't think that the level of digestive distress you're experiencing is expected as a whole30 side effect though. Maybe you're allergic to one of the foods included in whole30 that you weren't eating much of before? Or maybe another healthy issue has arisen independently of whole30, and it just happened to occur around the same time? I'm glad to hear that you're working with your doctor on this one. Let us know if you figure out what's going on!
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    Salmon cakes without eggs?

    I love the one in the whole30 book! https://whole30.com/2017/04/whole30-cookbook-4/
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    Slip Up

    @Mikkim1231, don't worry! Every additional whole30 you do, you learn something. It seems like you're intending to wait a year for the next one, but maybe you could do the January whole30 too. I did one in July-August and I'm already doing another! And even if you missed some non-compliant ingredient, there are still lots of gains, like practicing cooking this way and changing how you think about food. You still have that even if you might have some soy complicating your results, and it will definitely help you on your next whole30 and your life in general when it comes to good food habits. Since you emotionally don't want to do a whole 56 (which I understand!), I'd say do the reintroduction as normal and just be aware that some of your results may be confounded by the soy. Think of it this way: if you learn a lot about what doesn't agree with you from this reintro, you'll learn even more from your next reintro after a totally clean whole30!
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    Reintorduction Prior to a Fitness Event

    If you feel that the whole30 adequately fuels your training now, you may consider extending your w30 until after the marathon and begin reintros after it's done.
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    What order to reintroduce dairy items?

    @Michele B., I saw that post as well during my searches. Do you have a plan as to how you will break up the dairy products when you reintroduce them?
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    Stomach Bug-What do I eat?

    I find that lime flavored seltzer settles my stomach, just make sure to sip it slowly if you go that route. If you drink it too fast, it'll make you feel bloated probably
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    RX Bars

    The brand RXBar has some compliant flavors and some that are not compliant. It depends on the flavor. Some of them have chocolate, so those are out. Read the label and make sure there are no noncompliant ingredients. I always read the label on anything I buy even if the brand is whole30 approved for this very reason!
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    Hit a wall

    @Mr. Greg how's it going? I read this thread and found it very encouraging. And I bet you've made even more progress by now! I'd love to hear about that
  19. I finished up my second Whole30 about a week ago. I felt like I was really bloated randomly throughout the month, but I haven't yet traced that to a specific food other than sparkling water (especially if I drank it too fast!). I wasn't really worried about it because I usually wear loose dresses anyway, but I didn't expect to lose any weight by the end of the 30 days based on my bloated feeling. When I weighed myself on day 31, I actually lost 7.6 lbs! I still want to figure out what causes the bloat, but it is not related to weight loss or lack thereof for me. Maybe that will be encouraging to you or someone else who finds this post!
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    Legume Side Effects

    My copy of Food Freedom Forever arrived today, so I'm reading it too! Dairy also gives me headaches (even just butter! Argh). I read a very good analogy about gut healing recently. I don't remember where I read this, but it was probably Whole30 material because that's pretty much all I've read this month! Imagine someone with a scraped knee that has healed a little bit vs someone with a normal, healthy knee. If you take some sandpaper and rub it on the normal knee, it won't really hurt the person much. But if you rub sandpaper on the recently scraped knee, it'll start bleeding! This is sort of like what's happening when you reintroduce stuff to a still healing gut. Hopefully most of those foods that caused reactions for you are "fine grit" sandpaper that, once your gut is totally healed, aren't rough enough to "skin the knee" on their own. But some foods may be such "course grit" sandpaper that they can scrape a perfectly healthy "knee"! This analogy was really helpful for my understanding of what's going on.
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    Legume Side Effects

    I'm sorry to hear you're having a lot of reactions! It's definitely possible to react to everything. That's why Melissa and Dallas excluded those things from the Whole30! Do you find that the symptoms are all heavily GI related? It's possible that your gut may need more time to heal. If you're still healing, a lot of things could cause a reaction, but once you're fully healed, you may find more things to be tolerable. Just a thought, not sure if it's applicable in your case. Even if you have reactions, you can decide when those side effects are worth it for you (your own wedding cake? Worth the gluten headache. Free cookies at work? Not worth it. That sort of thing). So even though it may feel discouraging to have a lot of reactions, it's just data that allows you to make informed decisions about your food freedom.
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    Reintroduction: Alcohol question...

    @Laurenacc, I don't think anyone answered this directly. Yes, that is the fast track from the book. However, you can change the reintro schedule if you want to. The changes @GoJo09 suggested are good examples or why you might reorder or expand the reintro. Some people give soy it's own day, peanuts it's own day, etc. Some people separate dairy by varying lactose vs casein content! It just depends on how fine-tuned you want your reintro data to be. I gave butter it's own day because that was the only dairy I wanted really, but unfortunately I think it's giving me a headache that isn't really worth it when clarified butter tastes fine (just more effort!). If you're concerned about sugar, you could give it it's own day or do the non-sugar versions or categories before the sugar versions. For example, do dairy without sugar, a few days whole30, then dairy with sugar (ice cream!!). Gluten without sugar, reset, gluten with sugar. If there are differences in your reactions, you'll know what's from the sugar separately from the base category.
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    Weighing in during re-intro

    I think you just want to be aware of your relationship with the scale and what a multiday gain would mean. Over that short time span, it probably would indicate water retention more than anything. That may or may not be meaningful to you. If you are concerned about losing body fat, weighing yourself everyday is too variable a measurement to really get at that. I'd also be surprised if you gained a meaningful amount of fat after one day of reintroducing a particular food. But if you want to monitor that water retention for whatever reason, you could do that. Only you can decide if you just want some impartial data (being aware of the limits of what a scale can tell you) or if you're tied to the scale in a more emotional way. Personally, I see no reason to weigh myself more than once a month. Just make sure you feel like you are in a good place emotionally and mentally with the scale
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    Legume Side Effects

    I'm a little late coming to this, but I wanted to reply. When I reintroduced legumes after my first whole30, the pain later in the day was unreal! I had really unbearable intestinal pain and I was totally shocked. How did you handle legumes?
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    Managing reactions and reintro

    In general, I'd say to go back to 100% compliance until you feel as good as you did at the end of day 30. It won't take as long to reset because you spent a month letting your gut heal. I'd expect a week back on whole30 to be enough, but you'll have to see how it goes for you personally. If you noticed literally no reaction from the grains, it doesn't really make sense that a reaction would develop after all of it should have been out of your system already. But like you said, you can always try it again. The reality that I'm discovering is that a lot of things can make reintro confusing, such as a lot more physical activity than usual as it seems in your case. For me today, I watched more TV than usual so I can't tell if I have a headache from that or the butter I reintroduced. To understand your particular reactions to foods, you can always reintro the things that you can't quite tell how they factored into this reaction. More data points never hurt!