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  1. On 1/8/2019 at 11:51 AM, pags98 said:

    In my opinion this seems along the lines of a lot of the sweet potato hashes and such that are out there.  The cranberries though - be careful I have YET to find a dried cranberry that doesn't have sugar in some form.  I keep looking but no dice and I sure would love to add them to salads every now and then!

    Bear in mind that this is just my opinion and I'm not a mod, but it doesn't seem to rise to the SWYPO level like Paleo Pancakes, Muffins etc.  I'll be interested to see what a more official voice says on this thread though because a lot of things I consider SWYPO seem to be considered okay and others aren't.  

    The bulk bins at Whole Foods may have juice-sweetened cranberries.

  2. 38 minutes ago, slc_melissa said:

    @Lissa Kristine

    Fruit juice is allowed (if ingredients are compliant), if not recommended.

    Check out:


    Fruit Juice: Yes

    Fruit juice is the only acceptable added sweetener on the Whole30. (We had to draw the line somewhere.) Use it to flavor sauces, soups, or entrees.

    Tip: While drinking a glass of fruit juice is technically compliant, we really wouldn’t recommend it, even if you juice it yourself. Juicing strips many of the nutrients out of the fruit, but still leaves all of the sugar. We’d much rather you just eat the fruit.

    I know fruit juice is allowed. But apparently popsicles when used to soothe a sore throat  are not allowed.



    39 minutes ago, slc_melissa said:

    @Lissa Kristine

    Fruit juice is allowed (if ingredients are compliant), if not recommended.

    Check out:


    Fruit Juice: Yes

    Fruit juice is the only acceptable added sweetener on the Whole30. (We had to draw the line somewhere.) Use it to flavor sauces, soups, or entrees.

    Tip: While drinking a glass of fruit juice is technically compliant, we really wouldn’t recommend it, even if you juice it yourself. Juicing strips many of the nutrients out of the fruit, but still leaves all of the sugar. We’d much rather you just eat the fruit.


    3 hours ago, laura_juggles said:

    There are better options for a sore throat than popsicles. Have a glass of ice water or some Throat Coat tea or some bone broth. There's also a certain amount of planning that has to go into those popsicles..."I have a sore throat *now* so let me put some apple juice into the freezer so I have have something to soothe it in 8 hours once it's frozen".

    Your body also isn't getting a big hit of nothing but sugar when you eat two gummy vitamins (because, let's remember, that if there was sugar in the vitamin, it would be non-compliant). If your body's fighting off something which results in a sore throat, it also doesn't need to deal with blood sugar spikes and crashes from the sugar in juice since there's no fat or fiber to slow down the digestion. 

    How about the fact that I tend to get a cold/sore throat once a month? Around that time of the month, I'll prepare. There are times when it HURTS to swallow. That's when I like having something like a frozen fruit juice popsicle, but fine. 

    Hot liquids like tea or soup are not soothing, so I'll continue to leave them out.
    There's a difference between slowly eating a popsicle and trying to swallow a mouthful of water.

    No medicines allowed. I can't take most cough/cold medicines so I usually go for natural remedies. Those all have honey, so I can't have those.

    So, if I get sick, I can't take anything for it. Good to know.

  3. On 8/14/2018 at 8:00 PM, Lokan_V said:

    I'm glad I checked here!

    I was told all RX bars except for peanut ones and maple were compliant. 

    However, the chocolate threw me off. Chocolate inherently has sugar in it, right? 

    I have the blueberry and apple cinnamon one at home, but just picked up a bunch with chocolate (mint, hazelnut, coconut). I was still doubtful. 

    I guess even if it was technically compliant, I would avoid it because chocolate is too much of a "dessert" for me and I'm trying to break that habit. 

    Chocolate (pure cacao) does not contain sugar.

    And what's wrong with the Maple bars? They don't contain any added sweetener. The maple flavor comes from maple water.

  4. 15 minutes ago, SugarcubeOD said:

    They're not... unless you're eating a bowlful of them while watching TV... 

    Interesting... I would've thought that gummy vitamins would be considered SWYPO. After all, I was told that I can't take 100% apple juice and freeze it into popsicles to soothe a sore throat because that's SWYPO even though there are no actual medications in existence that contain 100% compliant ingredients. 

    Why is a gummy ok when used as a vitamin and not candy, but frozen juice isn't allowed when used as medication and not as a dessert?

  5. So, I'm getting ready to start a Whole30 in a few weeks, but there's one thing that I haven't been able to figure out:

    What do I take if I get sick?

    Normally, I try to combat things like mild coughs/colds (it is flu season after all) with quick disolve elderberry tablets, Maty's or Zarabees cough syrups,and Zarabees losenges (usually only in places like church where I don't want my coughing to disturb anyone. These are all drug-free , but sweetened with honey or sugar. 

    I do try to drink extra Kombucha (GT's brand which is compliant) and I have no issues with eating soup made of bone broth, meat, veggies, and plenty of garlic and tumeric, but what do I do if that's not enough and I need to take medicine. It was hard enough to find cough/cold medicine that doesn't contain artificial sweeteners or alcohol. 

    My normal approach to getting a cold (which tends to happen monthly around my time of the month) is:

    1. Kombucha
    2. Soup (when it's cold... I can't do soup in the summertime)
    3. "Natural" medicines- mainly when I need to function. I'll take a single cough drop during church so I don't disturb others, but that's it.
    4. Popsicles (frozen juice) to soothe a sore throat.

    What do I do when I can't have numbers 3 (not made of compliant ingredients) and 4 (SWYPO?)

    And what about painkillers? I haven't been able to find a single pill (Tylenol, Advil, Motrin, etc) that does not contain artificial sweeteners. 

  6. On 3/8/2016 at 11:38 AM, jburth7 said:

    My kids don't eat Whole30, so I'm not the best advice giver... but, I do believe that SWYPO foods are considered okay for kids... so, ants on a log (with almond butter and compliant raisons), 'pancakes' with eggs/bananas and maybe other treats that I'm not aware of would be things you could consider.  Also, my kids tend to eat more veggies when I roast them and give them a dip to use - we've done tons of different homemade mayos for them... my husband is fantastic at adding spices to our mayo to make it taste different but I know there are also recipes out there to make compliant ranch and other dressing type things.

    Another idea may be to come up with a compliant "muffin" recipe (one that uses all compliant ingredients). If you have young children in daycare, send a container with 1-2 muffins for each child to be stored in the FREEZER at their daycare. They can be pulled out and thawed at room temperature or in the microwave as an alternative snack if there's a class Birthday party. Sure, a paleo banana muffin isn't quite the same as a chocolate cupcake with neon blue frosting, but perhaps the idea that Sammy has a special treat for the party will make things a little easier.

    With some kids, gradual change may be needed. Cutting out peanut butter and jelly at once may not work without a good replacement, but swapping out the peanut butter for almond or sunflower seed butter may help them get used to the taste. What about making "jelly" by mixing mashed berries with chia seeds or doing nut butter and banana sandwiches. Maybe you'll go from peanut butter and jelly on bread to almond butter and jelly on bread to almond butter and fresh berries on bread to fresh strawberries that are cored and filled with almond butter. (For some kids,the transition may even need to be slower. Perhaps mixing peanut butter with almond butter and gradually decreasing the amount of peanut butter used may also be needed).

    Some kid-friendly snacks that are Whole30 Compliant [These are specifically the kinds of snacks or alternatives to ones you may see children in preschool eat; I know a 3 year old who thinks creamed kale is a great snack to bring to a party though, so I don't think anything is off limits. Some may be considered SWYPO, and of course you should check lablels]

    • Fruit and veggie puree pouches (baby food pouches or GoGo Squeez Applesauce Pouches.)
    • Applesauce cups
    • Happy Farms Coconut Creamies (alternative to Gerber yogurt melts)
    • Fresh fruit
    • Veggies with compliant dips
    • Bare Fruit and Veggie Chips (excluding Carrot Ranch or any of the coconut chips; even the barbecue sweet potato ones are allowed)
    • Freeze dried/dried fruit (including raisins)
    • Trader Joe's Plantain chips
    • Epic Pork Rinds (not the Maple Bacon cracklin's. The rinds are ok)
    • Fruit with whipped coconut cream 
    • Chocolate avocado pudding (add banana and/or dates to sweeten).
    • Chia pudding (with compliant milk and fruit to sweeten)
    • Bars: Larabar (check labels), Rx Bars (including ones with chocolate chips, but not peanuts), Pressed by Kind Bars, or That's It! Fruit Bars
    • Snack packs of olives and/or pickles
    • Precooked chicken strips dipped into compliant dipping sauces/dressings [including guacamole]
    • Compliant deli meats wrapped around fresh veggies or cut into fun shapes
    • Fruit juice or smoothies made with compliant ingredients that are frozen into "popsicles."

    I tried to include some shelf-stable and some perishable snack ideas including several that are either IDENTICAL to the same snacks everyone else seem to eat or are decent subsitutes for them. Of course, many of them (as I said before) aren't great for adults, but maybe having a few green "Hulk" smoothie pops made of coconut milk, strawberries, banana, and spinach in the freezer will come in handy when Alex and Chris are the only two kids in the neighborhood who aren't getting ice cream from the ice cream truck.


  7. I know some people are more flexible with certain rules when it comes to toddlers and children. For example, while banana egg "pancakes" are not allowed on Whole30, they may make some for their young children; the focus is more on ingredients and less on the psychological effect of the foods. This may even translate into making a few Paleo banana muffins to be kept in the freezer at your child's daycare so he has a snack available if another child brings in cupcakes for a Birthday party. (This is something that parents of children with allergies will do: have a "safe" snack available for class parties so the child doesn't feel left out).

    For daycares or other situations out of the house, PACK all meals and snacks. Explain to the childcare provider (in a daycare center,this may be classroom teachers AND the center director) that "Johnny is only to eat food from home." You may feel comfortable enough giving the daycare provider some more freedom "He's allowed to have FRESH fruit like bananas or oranges" [many daycare workers are unaware of whether or not there is sugar in any canned fruit or applesauce.] Tell the caregivers that Johnny is on an elimination diet to see if it helps improve his "tummy troubles". Depending on trust

    If your child is really struggling with the changes, again, some "SWYPO" foods may be ok to help with transitons. Instead of Gerber yogurt melts, for example, Happy Family has coconut creamies which are basically the same thing. Also, things like the GoGo Squeez pouches are compliant, but they're also normal "kid" foods. Thats It Fruit bars, Larabars, RxBars, and Pressed by Kind bars may also be options [depending on nut allergies or whether or not nuts are allowed in certain areas]. They may not be encouraged for us because they can be candy bar replacements, but keeping a fruit bar in your purse so Johnny has a snack during a MOPS group isn't the end of the world.

    Just a word of advice: 

    I've worked in several daycare centers. Many staff members are unaware of certain aspects of dealing with food allergic children. They may pull turkey off of the bun and give it to a child with Celiac's or  ignore the "May contain..." section on a food label. In the case of vegetarians, they would serve children yogurt that contained gelatin. A lot of it was pure ignorance, but if your child(ren) are in a daycare center, I would advise setting a strict rule that only food from home is allowed. Even if you give a list of safe foods, there's likely to be little attention spent to added sugars or hidden ingredients (like wheat breadcrumbs in meatballs), or some "bending" of the rules. (Corn and peas are "vegetables" after all). 

    (My experience working in daycare is the reason I hope to never have to utilize one when I have children).

  8. Food before 1 is just for fun.

    The idea of giving an infant Gatorade seems apalling. Water is perfectly fine. At this point, most of the hydration is coming from food and breastmilk. The water is really serving a dual purpose: getting him used to the taste and teaching him how to use a sippy cup.

    Poop issues during transitions to solids or when introducing new foods is NORMAL even for people who start off with rice cereal and purees. A little hydration, some coconut oil and/or prunes (pureed or in juice form is fine; pear juice is also a good option for constipation. I get the appeal of not wanting to use too many juices or purees, but I also know the stress of dealing with a fussy baby and if a pouch of Plum Organics prunes will provide some relief, then go for it), and some belly massages should help relieve pressure if baby is incredibly uncomfortable, but so will allowing the body time to adjust. 

    As far as snacks go, I totally get not wanting to do only carb snacks for babies and toddlers. I think one thing to consider is that babies are messy. You can give a toddler a single chocolate chip, place it directly in his mouth, and he'll still end up covered in chocolate. It's a special talent. Yes, things like hardboiled eggs or avocado chunks may be messy, but what if you keep them as a home snack.

    Again, I'm going to suggest the use of pouches on occasion. Happy Family has a line of pouches that contain things like chia seeds in addition to fruits/veggies. They also have yogurt in cups and pouches that contain zero added sweeteners (unlike brands like Stonyfield). They may not be ideal, but the shelf-stable pouches (not the yogurt) can be a great option to keep in a diaper bag as a quick snack when on the go. (You can also get reusable pouches and make your own concoctions). Happy Family has a pouch that contains apple, kale, and avocado. 

    (And if you're looking for another idea for a munchy snack, look at the Happy Family coconut creamies. They're like the Gerber yogurt melts, but as far as I can see, they're technically Whole30 compliant based on ingredients- though I imagine eating them is still discouraged if following a strict Whole30. I've eaten them before [volunteering in a church nursery where they were served] and I think they're pretty good).

  9. I know this is an old thread, but I'm a former daycare worker, so I've had to deal with nut free classrooms. Sunbutter Brand has a no-sugar added Sunflower seed butter that is allowed. 

    Compliant deli meat made into little roll-ups with veggies inside or cut into fun shapes. Hotdogs/sausage or leftovers from dinner would also work. Just make sure everything is cut. Even if your child eats things like whole grapes or hot dogs at home, a lot of schools won't allow children to eat them, so it's better just to have everything pre-cut ready to eat. (I worked at a school that wouldn't allow older preschoolers to have baby carrots unless they were cooked)

    Ask if mayonaise is allowed. It does contain eggs, but if it's allowed, you can make chicken or tuna salad. (If it isn't, use avocado instead).

  10. I've been here before, but I've never successfully completed a Whole30. I don't want to make excuses for myself, but there were a lot of issues I needed to work out to mentally prepare myself for this journey.

    So, a little background: I am 27, unemployed, with multiple mental health disorders including 3 anxiety-related disorders. I am currently on my own version of "Weight Watchers" where I allow myself more freedom to enjoy healthy fats (like olives and avocados). I've only recently rejoined WW and, while I do enjoy their online community and the meetings, I am on a personal journey to experience more freedom surrounding food. I want to be able to enjoy "junk food" without it consuming me, and I would love to find a balance where I can acheive and maintain a healthy weight without needing to measure/track everything I eat. I have made a lot of progress in that area, but I'm still not there. I am wondering if a Whole30 will help me on this journey. (I also loosely practice an intermittent fasting lifestyle- primarily a 10 hour window with 14 hours of fasting).

    I do not have any food allergies or food restrictions save for a severe sensitivity to 0 calorie sweeteners (to the point where I don't even use a sweetened toothpaste). Fortunately, this will NOT be an issue on Whole30.

    However, I actually started looking into this program again for my mother. She will be turning 55 this month and works third shift (overnights) at a convienience store. She has been suffering from a lot of stomach issues that she feels may be related to the food she's eating, but she has not been able to properly identify which foods are causing the issue. She does suspect soy, gluten, and dairy may be culprits. I suggested that she look into doing a Whole30 and then use the reintroduction process to help identify problematic foods. In addition to seeing if those foods are problematic, she also suspects she may have an issue with eggs. Her possible plan is to include as an extra step in the reintroduction phase so she can see if the eggs really are problematic.

    So, we both have different motivations for wanting to do the program. 

    We are looking at starting in early February. I, personally, am probably going to go an extra 5 days to make it a Whole35. I prefer to set goals/challenges on a weekly basis; even throughout my journey, I may set goals like:

    • Find a new vegetable to cook this week
    • Find a new recipe that uses chicken this week
    • Switch the fat used to cook this recipe from coconut oil to lard and see how you like it

    They're just fun ways to keep me motivated. I really don't like 30 day plans becuase I like to think on a Sunday-Saturday basis rather than a monthly one. I know the timeline specifically addresses that 28 days is not as good as 30, so I don't want to do this for 4 weeks and only hit 28 days. Instead, I figured I'll do 5 weeks for a Whole35.

    I will say that one of my biggest gripes that I'm going to be facing is the whole "no pancake" rules. Look, I get the logic behind the rule, but I don't care what it looks like. Mashed egg and banana with or without Nutzo Nut butter (or single ingredient almond butter) does not properly replicate a stack of Kodiak Cake pancakes with pure maple syrup. For me, it's more of another option to use eggs and overripe bananas. I guess I'll live without them (they're really only an occasional meal anyway), but I still consider them more of an "omelette" and less of a "pancake." (especially since I often prepare them like an omelette with fruit inside).

  11. When it comes to the salad dressing, I don't see a point. Whenever I go to Chipotle, Qdoba, or Moe's, I almost ALWAYS order a salad without dressing. That's what the salsa is for, right? I love me some salsa verde- especially from Qdoba.

    Nixing the beans will be tough as I usually double up on them, and I've never been a huge guac fan- fresh avocodo, yes, but not the guacamole. I suppose mixing it in with some meat, lettuce, and salsa will be different than just having some plain with tortilla chips though, so next time I go out for fast-food Mexican, I think I'll go for the guacamole as well.