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  1. If you were able to still bake but not eat it, maybe you could link up with some charities in your community that would appreciate home baked goods - Safe houses for victims of domestic violence and the like would probably love occasional treats. If having the baking in the house is not something that would work for you, maybe try out some cooking recipes that are more fiddly? Stuff that takes prepping ahead of time, fussy chopping and plating techniques etc? 

    what about researching spice blends and then making your own? That doesn't take long but it's quite rewarding to use your own spice blends in subsequent cooking.

    Maybe your 'thing' isn't in the kitchen anymore? Drawing, painting, knitting, crochet, reading, writing, photography... maybe there's something else that isn't related to food that your creative skills would be perfect for?

  2. It's good that you know your own weaknesses around food are.  The reason that the rule may be more impactful for some than others is because we have to make one program with one set of rules for hundreds of thousands of participants with different context. It's great that tortillas aren't a problem for you but the rule stands because we can't really say 'no pancakes/tortillas except for if you feel you don't have a problem with them'. We do black and white so that it's easy to follow which also helps with habit forming because your brain is not required to activate around decisions - saves you some mental capital as well as will power, of which we all have a limited amount per day.

    I hope that helps?

  3. 23 hours ago, Rebecca001 said:

    @SugarcubeODit says on October 26th I’m not restarting til saturday/ 30th October?  So not sure why it would need to be deleted? Am I not allowed to use this to journal my own thoughts, have good days and bad days? 

    We definitely encourage you to use the forum for journaling. The 'Join the Whole30' section is for discussions of preparing and doing the program - if someone new came along and saw 'scheduled day off plan' and didn't look back at 3 days of posts and conversation to get some context, you can see where that would be confusing. 

  4. 7 hours ago, britgirl said:

    Any moderators around? 
    Its day 4 and the sugar dragon is roaring on all cylinders. (Does a dragon even have cylinders??). The dried fruit jar and emergency naked bars are calling my name but I know will just feed the sugar and snack habit so I’m avoiding.  Had a massive breakfast and will make sure I stick to the template, but just wondering if starchy carbs are helpful or hindering here? Im inclined to avoid them and tough it out ( baked pot is still sugar down the line, right?) but any wisdom on this please? Thanks 

    Don't skimp the starchy carbs - in general when we skimp on something our bodies need, that need comes out in other ways. Complex carbohydrates contain glucose molecules which provides energy and helps your brain function properly. When you skimp and your body needs those glucose molecules, it asks for them in easier and more direct ways. 

    An abundance of things we eat turn to glucose (sugar) down the line - that's not the same as eating 'sugar' and shouldn't be considered as such.  It's great that you're noticing that this is triggering your sugar dragon (which may not be the behavior dragon at all but just the 'damn, I need some glucose' dragon) and eating the nuts and seeds and dried fruit isn't going to be the long term answer here. I prescribe a big baked potato with dinner!

  5. On 10/29/2021 at 1:05 AM, Rebecca001 said:

    Today is a scheduled day off plan as it’s my daughters birthday

    I haven't read through this entire thread altho I noticed that it started in August.  As you know, there are no 'scheduled off plan' days on a Whole30 so without reading through the entire thread, I can assume that you're in your food freedom? If so and there's no one on this thread who is still doing a W30 from August, I'm going to move it to the food freedom/after W30 section of the forum so as not to confuse new people who may come along and wonder about scheduled days off.  If you want it to stay here in the main board, then I'll ask that you go through your posts and remove anything that is similar to what is quoted above and other off plan discussions. Let me know what you want to do.


  6. On 10/30/2021 at 9:39 PM, Barcley said:

    Thanks, I think it’s misleading to say the are compliant. 

    Can you send a link or a screen shot to where it says that something with dextrose is Whole30 compatible?  I can't find any under their Whole30 approved section that are incompatible - they do have recipes that have incompatible ingredients in them for other eating programs which would be incompatible with the program. I can't find the cream of broccoli soup that you mention.

    I've given a heads up to HQ about this as well but in the meantime, if you're able to provide a bit more info, that will help them in quickly getting anything resolved that needs to be resolved


  7. 12 hours ago, corgikary said:

    Anyone else out there that was able to stop taking an antidepressant due to a diet change

    Depression and mood disorders have been discussed at length on this forum and some of those discussions are around medication - google Whole30 forum + depression for instance to get the previous conversations.

    Please make sure that you are speaking with your care team about potentially going off medication - not only do some meds have a withdrawal concern but your doctor and health care providers should be checking in regularly with you to make sure that you're doing well and adjust/add meds back if needed. If you can't go off the meds, can you look at switching to something different? Paxil is an SSRI and there are quite a few options in that category to potentially try.

  8. Headaches suck! Sorry you guys aren't feeling well. The only extra thing I can suggest as far as intake is to make sure you're salting your food but honestly, it's definitely realistic to think this is environmental... barometer changing, temp dropping, fall allergies (ya, that's a thing..), stress, poor sleep... 

    Definitely take a headache remedy like Aleve or Advil or Tylenol so you're not suffering - if you think it might be sinuses, try a Tylenol sinus pill or flushing with a netty pot.

  9. 23 hours ago, makrjordan said:

    Our primary worry would not be whether or not an item is 'keto' friendly, and to be honest, I have little knowledge of Keto. What I do know is that if an item contains sugar, it will not be compatible with the Whole30, but because you haven't said whether you're doing a Whole30 or not, I'm not sure what ideas you're looking for.

    If you're doing a Whole30, double-check the ingredients before using any of the spices you're considering.

    You could find more information about how to prepare meat on a cooking topic - Whole30 is entirely dedicated to the Whole30 programme, and while people occasionally discuss how they prepare meals and what spices they use, it's not really a cooking forum.

    Okay? It looks like you just rewrote my answer?

  10. Yes, there are no rules around when you can and cannot consume anything that is compliant with the program. However, we do really recommend that because the Whole30 also helps to reset hormones around hunger, wake, sleep etc... that you limit your intake of coffee or caffeinated beverages and ideally not consume them after noon but there is no rule around this so you're free to do what works for you.

  11. Yes.  I see you've made a few posts with individual items - if you have a bunch of questions, feel free to combine them into one post - it keeps the forum neater. Second, you can also google 'whole30 + item' and results from past conversations should come up so you don't have to wait for someone to answer.

  12. Sorry you're not feeling well!

    It's hard to say what could be causing the digestive upset - 24/48 hours is probably not chronic, it could just be a detox happening or if you're eating a lot of something now that you normally didn't before (say for instance entire whole avocados with every meal or a ton of nuts/seeds).

    If you want to give us a run down of your meals, we can see if anything stands out that you can add or remove that might help. Not every Whole30 compatible food is compatible with every Whole30'er so there might be something in there we can adjust.

  13. On 8/27/2021 at 11:11 PM, Baptiste said:

    "I'm the type of person who can eat anything", to "if you give me something to eat, there's an 80% chance it'll make me sick"

    Ya, I agree with you there - it's a frustrating transition! The cool part is that once you know these things and potentially grieve the things you have to leave behind (yes, that's a real thing), you know that you're pretty safe that you're going to have an amazing experience at the Fall Fair because you didn't eat something that maybe your tummy was okay with but that gave you a headache or made you tired or grouchy... for instance... it's quite freeing but there can definitely be a grieving period as we move through this.

  14. On 8/28/2021 at 2:24 PM, Janayahna said:

    I’m definitely eating enough 

    I just never feel like I’ve eaten ..

    I would say maybe you're not eating enough.  You don't list vegetables with your meal and if you're shorting yourself over the previous day's meals, then you're going to be behind the eight ball with the next day... 

  15. You might also try a magnesium supplement like Natural Calm (the unflavored is compatible with Whole30). If you're not used to taking it, start slow and work up to a full dose or you might end up with the reverse situation of your problem ;)

    A couple things also worth trying... white potatoes can be constipating so try leaving them off for a bit.  Leave off the nuts/nut butter - it's amazing how so little can cause huge problems... Not sure what proteins you're eating but a lot of red meat can be a source of constipation so make sure you're switching up your protein sources so you've got poultry, pork, eggs etc... in there as well (assuming these are things you're willing to eat).  Make sure you're cooking any brassica (cauli, broc, b.sprouts) because raw can do a number to your stomach.

    Maybe some of those will help, maybe none but worth trying right? 

  16. It's not that you've become intolerant in the last 30 days.  It's likely that you WERE intolerant to those items but your gut does try and protect itself and creates a mucus layer to keep it as safe as possible from those things.  In the 30 days, your body got rid of that because it wasn't necessary - now you're bringing those foods back and gut doesn't have that built in protection.

    Could you force your body to go back and tolerate it again? I guess... to me it seems like you healed a wound and now you want to make a wound again just to put a bandaid on it so that occasionally you can eat pizza... and to keep the bandaid there all the time, you'd have to be consuming these non tolerated foods regularly... I don't know... if my body was telling me that it really didn't like a thing and that thing wasn't the only thing keeping me alive, I would probably look for alternatives... 

    It's also possible that while you thought your gut was super happy with cheese and bread, there were trickle down effects of those things that you didn't notice... grogginess, itchy scalp, irritability etc... so if you did re-up the mucus bandaid, that  could solve the 'sick for 24 hours' thing but it might cause other problems... usually when we are intolerant to a food it impacts us in more than one way.


    Also, for you and anyone else reading, this is what the Whole30 was designed to do. 1. Heal your gut. 2. Try out the foods that are generally problematic and find out which ones are okay and not okay (for you, lactose and gluten= not okay). 3. Make a decision of consumption based on what you now know about yourself.  

  17. 42 minutes ago, hmb13 said:

    Woke up on Day 12 after 10.5 hrs of sleep feeling incredibly weak. I was extremely fatigued yesterday, went to bed early, but woke up this morning feeling so weak I could barely stay standing long enough to prepare breakfast. Are a huge breakfast — 3 eggs, 1/2 sweet potato, 1/2 avocado — and feel a little better but still feel like I need a nap. What gives?

    Hey there, sorry that you're feeling crappy! It's really not uncommon to feel really fatigued and even weak. I've copied the timeline below - you may just be experiencing the general symptoms a bit later than it says - it's just an idea of how it might look and lots of people get some, all, none of the symptoms right on time, late, early... 

    What are you eating for the rest of your meals? I"m suspecting that you're undereating which will also create feelings of fatigue and tiredness - the fact that eating made you feel a little better is my hint that this might be the case.

    If you want, post a few days of your meals including approx portion sizes and meal timing and we can see if there's anything we can spot that will help.  Also, make sure you're salting your food, drinking 1/2oz of water per pound of body weight and of course, getting enough sleep.


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