SugarcubeOD got a reaction from Garth in 3 weeks in and I got spiked by a stock cube and a spoon of jam in gravy!
Not sure what this is??
As far as reintroduction, there's a whole bunch of resources for this - go to this link and use the 'Reintroduction' links at the bottom left square
SugarcubeOD got a reaction from Garth in 3 weeks in and I got spiked by a stock cube and a spoon of jam in gravy!
Yep, definitely. I'm in Canada and altho we have 'some' Whole30 approved products available, there are not many and when I did my first Whole30, 'whole30 approved' didn't even exist so label reading was where we had to begin and end every trip to the grocery store. It becomes second nature and you get very good at it. You may want to start by label reading your own kitchen and putting a sticker on non compliant items or depending on the ratio, making a shelf dedicated to one or the other - then as long as the people cooking know what those stickers/shelves mean, you can eat in relative peace knowing you don't have to grill the chef (punny).
Good luck! You have a great attitude!
SugarcubeOD reacted to LIverlips in Hi, People! My First Whole30 Starts August 15--Yay!
Hey, Whole30 World! I'm so excited to be here! When I was young, I smirked at my parents' attitude toward food (comfort food? what's that? I was raised that food is fuel and/or medicine, but never fun or recreation!), but now I see that "garbage in, garbage out" is kinda true! With three out of four grandparents dying before they reached retirement age, how did my parents live into their 90s? (Mom is still with us.) Diet, of course! Whole30 embodies all of this, with two awesome additions: a scientific basis and customizability! In the long term, I will be retiring myself in about five years, so I want to have my Food Freedom deeply ingrained into my daily life by then. In the short term, if things go as planned--and they very well may not--I should be on day 22 of my first Whole30 the day I leave to walk the Camino de Santiago in Spain (for the third time). So why am I here right this minute, introducing myself to everyone? I'm following, to the letter, the planning and preparation steps as outlined in my favorite new book, "The Whole30, the 30-Day Guide to Total Health and Food Freedom." I look forward to meeting y'all!
SugarcubeOD got a reaction from Garth in 3 weeks in and I got spiked by a stock cube and a spoon of jam in gravy!
My guess would be that this is probably more from the corn product than the chicken altho it's hard to say. It's entirely up to you whether you restart or not - there are no Whole30 police but given that you had a reaction to something, in order to do reintroductions on a clean slate and really find out what works and doesn't work with your body, you want that 30 days of healed gut to do the experiments on...
bummer that happened!
SugarcubeOD got a reaction from cassnate18 in Why do we limit certain nuts & seeds on Whole30?
All the science behind the rules on Whole30 are outlined in detail in It Starts with Food. Alternately, you can dig through the archives using google and find many discussions on almost every topic. I've gotten you started here with a response from one of our previous moderators in an archived post.
Most nuts and seeds deliver a high dose of omega6 fats. Most of us already have too many omega6s and we need to reduce omega6s and increase omega3 fats to achieve a proper balance. So, while nuts and seeds are okay, eating a lot of them will tend to overload you with omega6s. Some nuts are lower in omega6 fats - macadamias, hazelnuts, cashews, so they are "better" for you. Others are especially high in omega6s - walnuts, brazil nuts, etc. Almonds, which are Paleo favorites, are in the middle of the pack. Flax seeds have a lot of omega3 fats, but in a form that our bodies can't access readily, so they don't add health benefits. The oils and butters of the nuts and seeds have the same nutritional profile. In addition, many people lose control with nuts and seeds and eat a lot of them.
SugarcubeOD got a reaction from Amanda1125 in Pizza?
You can google 'well fed meatza' which is a meat and vegetable dish seasoned with pizza flavorings (the 'crust' is actually a giant flat baked hamburger patty).
@kirbz is right tho, there is no crust that is made with compliant ingredients that will work - cauliflower crust is great for food freedom but does cross the line of recreating baked goods which is not allowed.
SugarcubeOD got a reaction from JulieAlarid in Is Organic actually better?
We want you to buy the best quality of food you can afford and that is available to you. If organic is not something that is of great significance to you (it isn't to me), then you don't have to worry about that. I think it's likely stating organic in the book because organic is generally accepted to be a higher quality food, however if you have found research and done your due diligence and believe that for your purposes, organic is no better or worse than conventional, then carry on with conventional.
SugarcubeOD reacted to leigh in Day 10. Do I have to start over?
Thanks so much for the reply!
Ya I didn't eat the whole bag so that's I guess a good sign. I was def craving salt and crunch tho so I feel like that's a bit of a mental cheat. I am hoping to do Whole 30 a little longer so I guess it's all a way in the end - although I really do want to be able to say I did it for 45 or 60 days 'for real' lol . I'm trying to dig into why I crave the snacks at night time so that I can rewire that habit.
Thanks for the kind words about hospital workers; to be fair there are people in far more exposed roles than I am and they are the heros. It's encouraging though to see everyone doing their part.
SugarcubeOD got a reaction from BabyBear in Whole 30 for Lent
Sorry you're feeling this way! I do wonder if the binging could be because you're limiting during other meals? Do you eat a meal template breakfast within an hour of waking and then another one 5-6 hours later? Are you going an exceptionally long time between your last meal and the one you binge on?
Other things I wonder... do you live alone or with people who are sharing the food resource? if you are living with others, is there a chance that you're 'resource guarding' by eating 'your share'? If this could be the case, then pack up the other servings into containers that the other people in your household know are off limits and then you know consciously and subconsciously that the resource is safe. If you live alone, could you try asking 'present you' to be kind to 'future you' and not eat it all because future you will really thank you when they have lunch the next day. Other mind tricks: 'I can make this EVERY DAY if I want to', 'if I need to get up at 3am and eat because I'm hungry, I'm an adult who will do just that'.
I realize that binging is very complex and can't be solved with words on a page but hopefully this will help and I would be interested in the answers to how you're eating the rest of the day to see if that is leading into you 'binging' because you're actually just starving and your body needs the nourishment.
SugarcubeOD reacted to Jihanna in Binging/overeating
@Tiara1234 I'm the same way - I can binge on some good food, and do it more easily than I can with junk! Home-cooked meal that's absolutely yummy? Seconds, please! Man, only a spoonful left in the dish? That's not even enough to put away... I eat it now, instead! Yes, I totally get it. I know the justifications, and I know the icky feeling that comes afterward because even good food does us wrong when we cram in too much.
I found that a few things helped me to work on this habit...
1. I often drink peppermint tea during dinner. This is usually two bags of peppermint herbal tea steeped in about 12-14 ounces water (and obviously without anything to sweeten it). If straight-up herbal tea isn't your thing, you could always do one bag peppermint and one bag black or oolong, and the water ratio is variable (you might like yours stronger or weaker than I like mine). Peppermint works as a mild appetite suppressant, so drinking this while I'm eating tends to help my body step on the brakes.
2. I eat slowly and cut up my food ahead of time. Despite what my husband says about "good manners", I go ahead and cut up all of my food (if applicable) and spread it out on my plate, so it looks like there's more than there is. This allows me to put less on a plate and convince my brain that it's more, before I even get started. I eat slowly so my body can really process and acknowledge what I'm eating, and how much of it, instead of just barreling through and eating 2-3 plates before my body can scream that it's full.
3. Sometimes I'll purposefully eat half a meal now, and save half for a little later. If we've made something I know I tend to binge on, or at least want to binge on (even if I've been stopping myself lately), I'll go ahead and force myself to stop halfway through what I've put on my plate (the first serving!) and set that aside. I sit at the table, talk with my family while they eat, and then determine shortly (15-30 minutes later) whether or not I'm actually hungry enough to eat the rest of my dinner or if I just want to eat because it tastes good and is already on my plate -- if the latter, I cover the plate and put it in the fridge for a snack (or meal) later in the day.
4. If I've eaten recently and know I probably shouldn't be hungry, but I see something I can justify eating (like a veggie tray), I'll grab enough to make a mini-meal (think a boiled egg or small scoop of chicken salad and a handful of celery sticks) and pair it up with a very small serving of coffee (I'll make that a decaf if it's late in the day) or hot tea. If I can't wrap my brain around the idea of a mini-meal, then I know I'm not actually hungry and should probably skip the "snack" altogether, especially if it's one of the things I know I'm liable to overeat.
Hopefully something in there might help or give you an idea of how to approach your situation
SugarcubeOD reacted to scoakley13 in PRE WORKOUT HELP???
1. You need to check your attitude because the moderators on this forum are volunteers and deserve a little respect. Shannon definitely goes above and beyond with her explanations of how things work and has been a tremendous help to a lot of us who Whole30.
2. The Whole30 is free. All you need is the list of what's not allowed and the meal template. You may spend money on books or special products but neither is necessary in order to complete a Whole30. Changing and updating everything is expensive. I'm sure they could reprint the books every time a change is made if they decided to charge us to participate in the program. I didn't eat white potatoes during my first Whole30 because my copy of ISWF was published before they changed that rule. I accidentally (and happily) discovered the update by using the forum (for free) and didn't have to buy a new, updated copy of ISWF.
3. I run, hike or weight train five or six times per week. I've done multiple Whole30's, random Whole21's and even a Whole75 and have never eaten a pre or post workout meal. They're not necessary for me and they might not be for you either. Or you may need to do it the original way but you may be better with the new way. Only you can determine what works for you in that regard. So yes, you will need to do a little research and figure out what works best for you.
SugarcubeOD reacted to Jihanna in What do you drink?
Soda addiction is something I battled off and on since I was 15 years old, and now 24 years later I've finally kicked the habit. It's one of my biggest NSVs, and doing Whole30 would've been totally worth it (for me) if that was my only gain.
Prior to Whole30, I draink 1-2 liters of "fully-leaded" Coca-Cola every day. I even polished off the last of my "one last bottle" the evening before my Day 1.
Week 1 sucked, especially Days 2-4. It was horrifying. I was fighting dehydration, withdrawal, and lovely lady-type issues all at once. "Hangover" doesn't do it justice, it was detox (which is way worse than just being hung over). I slept a lot, there were points where I couldn't move without just breaking down in tears... and I was so glad that I'd prepped a little bit so I could eat and tell the family to DIY. I needed nausea meds to keep food down long enough to let me fall asleep on Day 2. The headache lasted for days, but I still had to get out and do things like buy groceries for the new week's meal plan, put them away, and even cook for my family. Day 5 I finally managed the whole day without meds for pain or nausea.
During that first week, I did actually sweeten things with fruit/juice more than I probably should've. I was drinking black coffee, but also having hot tea during the day (2 cups water and 2 bags tea: 1 black, 1 "fruity" but compliant from a sampler box) which I sweetened with juice squeezed out of Cuties (1 baby orange per mug of tea). I also started keeping ice in my "main" cup so I could grab ice to suck on any time I felt like I would've normally grabbed a mint (I went through a large bag from Kroger every 1-2 weeks before W30). I'm another one who doesn't like regular unflavored water, but I get a good bit of it through my ice due to the amount I go through (and I drink water as the ice melts because it tastes better to me when it's still super-cold).
Reading here, I had seen quite a few ways to get my soda fix without stepping out of compliance. But I'm a recovering alcoholic, so I am all too aware of what it means if I need a "fix"... it means I'm addicted, which means anything remotely like that thing I craved would only serve to support that addiction rather than help me break free of it. Even adding a splash of fruit juice (especially lemon/lime) to some sparkling water would've been totally SWYPO for me, because I could drink Sprite in place of Coke and be happy as long as I didn't feel the need for the caffeine at the time.
The day after my Whole30, I drank some Coke. It's not recommended, it definitely wasn't a reintro of only one food group, but I needed to know if it was going to cause those cravings again... because if it did, I wanted to do another 30 days to continue working on getting free of that addiction.
I'll be honest -- it didn't even taste good. It was syrupy, the carbonation didn't give me the "ahh" feeling I expected, and it tasted more like chemicals than sweetness. I sipped on it very sparingly while we were out (because I didn't want to pay for ice and had forgotten my ice cup at home), then gave the rest to my husband as soon as we walked back in our front door. He hasn't been doing Whole30 with me, and took it gladly... but I just reveled in the fact that even carbonation has no hold on me, anymore!
Breaking my soda addiction probably wouldn't have happened if I hadn't done Whole30 the way it was intended, complete with sucking it up and making sure I didn't give myself any room for adventures in SWYPO. I feel so much happier knowing that I can continue my (slow and drawn-out) reintroduction without worrying that I'm going to slide right back into my old habits and addictions afterward, because if I can break away from SODA, I'm totally confident that I can break away from anything.
(On a related note, on that first reintro day I also added some honey to my hot tea, and didn't even notice enough change in flavor for me to bother adding any sweetener to it since then.)
Putting down the things we're used to is hard, and not recreating them during Whole30 might actually be harder... but finding freedom from the things that are doing more harm than good (in our bodies and minds) is really what this whole process is all about.
SugarcubeOD reacted to pags98 in What do you drink?
I've said this on the forum a few times now, but he honestly just needs to suck it up (man to man here/tough love). I drank a minimum of 60 oz of soda per day. It went down something like this: 44oz soda from the corner store in the morning to get me to lunch. Water or a 20oz soda at lunch. One or two 12 oz sodas at home in the evening.
I took to Spindrift my first Whole30 and also found a compliant Spearmint Hot Tea to give me a bit of caffeine help. I had horrible headaches for a few days but then the SpinDrift and Water alone were fine. By the end of my first Whole30 I could no longer stand the tasted of diet soda. Now when I absolutely feel like I want one I'll oblige myself with one regular sugar soda but otherwise it's water, sparkling water or SpinDrift. During my current Whole30 I have had tea once or twice a week and drink at least 80 oz of regular water and (2) 12oz Sparkling Waters of various types a day.
Yes it sucks, but it will likely change his perspective on those drinks. This is still one of my biggest NSVs of Whole30 and it has lasted over 6 months!
SugarcubeOD got a reaction from AR3825 in NEW!! Coconut Aminos and Chips
NEW WHOLE30 RULES: CHIPS AND COCONUT AMINOS
27 March, 2017
From Whole30 headmistress Melissa Hartwig, who works really hard to make the program both effective and easy to follow
It’s been a long time since I’ve issued any changes to the Whole30 rules; the last was in 2014, when we brought back the white potato. Making a rule change is a really big deal; it’s a huge communication effort to share the new information with millions of people worldwide and update all of our books and resources. But food manufacturers continue to create grain-free, dairy-free products that didn’t exist when I wrote the original Whole30 rules, and frankly, they’re making my job really hard here.
After much research, discussion with my forum moderators, and consulting the Whole30 team, we concur it’s time to revise a few points, based on the current marketplace. Here are two new Whole30 rules, effective April 1, 2017 (or right now, since you’re reading it). If you want, just read the rules and apply, easy-peasy. If you want to hear the thought process behind the changes, however, I’ll describe in detail below.
New Whole30 Rules
No store-bought chips of any origin (potato, tortilla, plantain, coconut, kale…) Coconut aminos are an exception to the “no added sugar” rule (and continue to be permissible on the program) No more plantain chips on the #Whole30? Spread the word; two NEW Whole30 rules. CLICK TO TWEET
No Store-Bought Chips
When we brought white potatoes back in 2014, one sticky issue was, “How do we keep people from eating French fries and potato chips, as those are obviously not in the spirit of the Whole30?” The answer was easy; saying, “No potato chips, and no restaurant or fast-food fries.” Back in 2014, all you could find in the store were potato chips or “Sweets n Beets.” Kale or broccoli “chips” didn’t exist, tortilla chips were made only with corn, and plantain chips were just showing up on the scene, but not popular enough to be on our radar.
Over the last few years, the variety of “healthy” chips in stores have exploded. You can now buy “nacho” flavored kale chips, cassava flour tortilla chips, and “roasted” plantain chips containing technically compliant Whole30 ingredients. This has caused great confusion in the community—kale chips must be okay because they’re kale, but what about plantain chips, or those potato chips fried in unrefined coconut oil? It was hard to keep up with; a fact I saw reflected in the #whole30 photos you’re posting on Instagram. In thinking about how to communicate my thoughts on the place of chips on the Whole30, I kept coming back to the central theme: Face-planting into a packaged bag of chips (of any nature) has no place in resetting your health, habits, and relationship with food.
Especially plantain chips. You know you crack out on them, and news flash: THEY’RE NOT ACTUALLY HEALTHY.
So, allow us to make it easy for you, and return to our Whole30 “real, whole, nutrient-dense” food roots: No store-bought chips. Period. Not even if they’re kale. Not even if they’re roasted. Not even if they’re cooked in coconut oil. Chips of any nature are counter to the Whole30 mission, they’re pushing more nutrient-dense food off your plate, and they’re all too easy to turn into food with no brakes.
It’s only 30 days, and you can do better.
Feel free to make your own real-food version at home; bake kale leaves, pan-fry plantain slices, or roast potato wedges. But please, no deep-frying. That should go without saying.
Coconut aminos (a soy sauce substitute made from coconut) came on the Whole30 scene around 2013. The first company to release the product was Coconut Secret, and the ingredients read, “Organic coconut ‘sap’ aged and blended with sun-dried, mineral-rich sea salt.” Based on this ingredient list*, it appeared totally Whole30 compliant. We began using aminos in our recipes and cookbooks, creating Asian-inspired dishes with exciting flavors.
Today, we have a variety of aminos; Big Tree Farms is a major market player, and Thrive Market has their own brand of aminos. Trouble is, their ingredients read slightly different: “Organic fair trade coconut blossom nectar, sea salt.” And it’s that one word, “nectar,” that’s causing trouble, because in Whole30 lingo, “nectar” = “sugar.”
I got on the phone with Elizabeth from Big Tree Farms, so she could explain the way aminos are made. The nectar itself is harvested from the coconut flower blossoms (not the tree itself, as the word “sap” might indicate). From there, you can do a few things with the nectar: brew it down with sea salt and water (natural fermentation may be part of this process) and turn it into aminos; dry it and allow it to granulate, turning it into coconut sugar; or sell it as coconut syrup, a liquid sweetener substitute.
So technically, all aminos are derived from a sugar source—but not all labels are clear about that. Which means that according to the current rules, some brands of aminos are out, while some are allowed, based solely on the way the companies chose to write the ingredients on the label.
Furthermore, unlike the other two forms of coconut nectar, aminos are not a sugar substitute. Would you add it to your coffee or tea, or pour it over berries? (EW.)
To avoid further confusion, we’re just going to write a new exclusion into the rules: “coconut aminos” are compliant for the program, even if the word “nectar” is on the label.
*When you read the rest of the Coconut Secret label, the word “sap” is in quotation marks, and the bottle description does say it comes from “sap that exudes from the coconut blossom.” Consumers (myself included) assumed the product came from the tree (or the coconut itself), but it is sourced from the coconut blossom, just like the other brands.
First, these new rules officially go into effect on April 1, 2017. If you’ve been eating ingredient-compliant plantain chips or store-bought kale chips, you don’t have to start over; just stop eating them. (And if you’ve been using aminos of any brand, nothing actually changes.)
Second, we’d appreciate you helping us share the rules by reposting our Instagram post, sharing our Facebook post, or Tweeting about it (below).
Have you heard? TWO new #Whole30 rules re: chips and coconut aminos! Details here. CLICK TO TWEET
Third, we’ve already updated the Can I Have blog post, the Whole30 Program Rules, and the accompanying PDF. We’re also in the process of cleaning up old forum entries with out-of-date info. However, patience, please, as that process could take a while. I’m also working the revisions into immediate reprints of The Whole30 and The Whole30 Cookbook.
Finally, we’ll be working with our partners at Thrive Market and Barefoot Provisions to remove kale chips from their Whole30 kits. This could take a little while, logistically.
On behalf of the Whole30 team, thank you for your continued support and your tolerance for these occasional changes. We are always evaluating the rules for their logic, foundation in science, effectiveness, and ease of use. Balancing all of those isn’t always easy, but we think these changes encompass the spirit and intention of the program, while making it even easier for you to follow the rules.
Even if you’re mad about the plantain chips.
SugarcubeOD got a reaction from RandiW in Headaches
Fruit, nuts, nut butters and larabars are not appropriate everyday snacking foods. They can be food without brakes, they spike your blood sugar and they're just fodder for a sugar dragon. If you need to snack while working on making your meals last you 4-5 hours, have a mini meal of protein and fat and ideally veggies.
Are you actually hungry for the larabar during meetings or is it boredom eating? Or jealousy eating because other people are having danishes etc? If you're eating three meals a day that last you 4-5 hours, then you shouldn't need meeting snack...