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    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
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    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
  3. Like
    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
  4. Like
    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
  5. Like
    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
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    Fenderbender got a reaction from Marcella in Plan a Whole30 dream vacation   
    Kayak camping the inside passage of Alaska..... I did it for an entire month a few years back and it was the bomb.... I'd love to float the entire Koyokuk-copper river basin from above the arctic circle ( wrangle st Elias range) next time....
    Set traps for fresh crabs.... Caught fresh steelheads and salmon walleye.... Foraged for tons of berries and plenty of native greens and foliage, ramps, thisels, etc..... Traded for game, seal oil and other food stuffs in small villages
    Talk about fat adaptation... There isn't a processed carb in a 1000 miles ( unless you pack it in)
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    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
  8. Like
    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
  9. Like
    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
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    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    I will hold you to this!!!
    When it's coolish out we find places to take them with us..... It's always a circus when we pull up,to a motel to overnight and parade the three of them through the lobby.... But Florida to Oregon to drop them off might be a bit far for them to drive.... Lol
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    Fenderbender reacted to Susan W in Boars head meats   
    I wish I could "uber like" Fenders post above. I never really knew what bothered me about deli meats compared to fresh roasted. I second the tri tip idea. I actually don't get grass fed, but I love the tri tips at Costco. I buy a pack of two of them and freeze one and roast one. LOVE it for after a workout or easy lunch.
    Fender...I want to babysit your dogs when you and your wife go on vaca.
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    Fenderbender got a reaction from Susan W in Boars head meats   
    Food facts..... There is a ton of additives that the USDA does require ( loop holes) companies to list. The law states it needs to be listed but there are ways to get around it...
    http://thefoodwatchdog.com/05/food-news/use-of-meat-glue-is-uncontrolled/
    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oppde/rdad/FRPubs/01-016DF.htm
    This is referring to the enzyme ( meat glue) Transglutaminase. TM.
    If the deli product that you are getting has been formed to look like a turkey breast or a roast beef/ham.... It more than likely has TM gluing it together in a slury of collagen ...gelatin..broth..... They suck up up through a vacuum tube ( Augustus Gloop) and pump it into preformed plastic bags... Sealed and steamed.... If it looks like its been roasted it was spray painted with caramel coloring after the goo sets up.
    Have you every roasted a fresh turkey and had the slices come out in perfect ovals..... Food Chemistry!!!
    You can buy bone out natural turkey breasts and roast them for well under half the price of deli turkey. Then consider all deli meats have a ton of water added.... The price is more like 1/4
    I get grass fed tri tips and top rounds to roast.... Yield is 85%. So roasted fresh it costs me less than $12 per pound. Organic/ natural roastbeef in the package is usually $14.99 for 6 oz and 1/4 of that is added water So $15 for 4 ounces of beef.....that's $30 per pound!!!!
    I know it's convenient but it just don't add up!!!!
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    Fenderbender reacted to kb0426 in Don't over think this.   
    I fear I am in the camp of someone that just wants to see newbies succeed, but also need to learn when the ST*U.
    Unless I can find a quote from a mod, I will put myself in time out for now.
    Reneé.
    Just doing that because I had to try it .