Blissfulnewme reacted to MeadowLily in I woke my Sugar Dragon
I'm speaking in general, but you don't need to start over again.
Extended Whole 30's don't really fix it when you're finished.The off and on again approach...Whole 30's mixed with binge eating or just minor/major off-roading inbetween is not Food Freedom Forever.
It's boxing yourself into a corner. It creates more black and white thinking about food. Whole 30 or Not. All in/on target or falling back into old habits.
After watching others do this for years now, I am convinced that the original constructs of a Whole 30 are optimum, in every way.
Elimination protocol of 30 days, a Reintro of about 10 days or longer and done. Next.
Immediately create a plan you can live with for the rest of your life. Your personal decisions will be liberating. Maybe you like eating the same lunch every single day, some do. Some like eating the same food 3X aday, that wouldn't work for me but you choose, you decide.
Read FFF, you'll find ideas for putting your positive food management plan together.
My plan is consistent but it has leeway. I can eat full fat plain greek yogurt or cottage cheese, legumes, even some non gmo grains in whole form, fish, fish, fish, proteins of every kind, nuts, fruits and vegetables. What I can't do is eat is deliberately engineered to be craved candy or donuts or bakery items or white sugar, white flour, white pasta. These things cause an immediate uptick in my blood sugar even in small amounts.
I don't eat them. I don't touch artificial sweetners or soda pops. No fast food or ice cream. I have enough leeway that I don't ever feel deprived. I eat everything with a protein. Fruit, vegetables, everything is paired with protein. That's my Rx for blood sugar control.
It works for me.
Starting over and over again will not make it any easier on Day 61 or Day 91 when you're done. FFF = not doing a Whole 30 Forever.
It's going to take work to find your way. I'm consistent but that's my way. The sooner you can find your way the easier this will be. Create something consistent for awhile until you get your footing back.
After an elimination protocol, there is an adjustment period. You're used to reading every label. Find your wiggle room and branch out. You can always prune yourself back before it goes sideways.
Blissfulnewme reacted to hmg1993 in Will I ever get it? My eating plan is so broken
@citymom It took me three tries to even come close to getting myself in a groove where I am not lurching from one sugar fueled swing to the other and finding what really worked for me. I found once I got beyond the W30 and the rules I was at a loss each time because my black and white was W30 or disordered eating. What I have realized instead is that W30 teaches us what our bodies like and don't like and how we react to certain foods. It's then our choice -- not a hard and fast rule -- to do what we like with that information. Inherent in that choice is that there aren't any breaking of rules or feeling bad. I realized that most of the foods that W30 eliminates do not agree with me -- particularly sugar and wheat. I also decided that alcohol just wasn't worth it. Now I eat 90% W30 because i choose to and love it and the other 10% I don't sweat it, like eating out and not worrying how something is cooked. For me the benefits of the choices I make now far outweigh any feeling of deprivation or missing foods. I am much more adventurous about the foods that I eat and have infinitely more variety in my diet than before when i was eating "everything". I eat nothing processed or packaged. I know it's working for me too. I had my annual physical recently and my good cholesterol is high and I had completely reversed some early signs of a stressed liver. My "a ha" moment is very much do what works for you. I haven't read Melissa's book yet but suspect this equates to food freedom. I hope you find your freedom too.
Blissfulnewme reacted to Tom Denham in Will I ever get it? My eating plan is so broken
The biggest failure of the Whole30 program is the large number of participants who fail to use the Whole30 experience to develop and commit to their own personal eating plan. We see people do repeated Whole30s without ever establishing their own program. So you have a lot of company with your on/off approach.
I did my Whole30 in 2010 and have never done another one. I may go for weeks at a time perfectly compliant with the Whole30 program, but I have never seriously considered doing another formal 30 days. It may be because my personal program works so well. Here is what the Tom Denham Program looks like...
I work from home, so normally eat all but 3 meals per week at home. That gives me a big advantage over people who work away from home or who go out a lot because everything I cook at home is Whole30-compliant. I am a great cook and have published more than 400 Whole30-compliant recipes. I could have published another 200-300 recipes by now, but I got bored with updating my recipe blog and don't. I mention this to explain that I eat like a king even though everything I prepare meets Whole30 standards. I highly recommend committing to your personal cooking being 100 percent Whole30-compliant. And then make sure you cook really tasty food.
When I eat out, I continue to emphasize eating meat and veggies, but I eat rice in Thai restaurants, dairy in sauces, and occasionally eat a dessert if I am convinced it will be special. However, I eat large quantities of food, so usually have little room left for dessert. I never order anything sweet just to have something sweet. When I eat out, I don't ask about cooking oils, what is in sauces, etc. because nothing causes me serious problems. But I avoid pasta, bread, beans, etc. because I prefer to fill up on meat and veggies. I drank my first soda in 5 years two months ago when I stopped for food along the highway in a rural area. I might have gone another five years without drinking another one except last week I was in a town that was under a boil water advisory. I ordered a Diet Coke with my lunch. I enjoyed the coke, but I really may go another 5 years because I really like water with lemon as my beverage.
I am a rare case, but the common mistakes I see people making after a Whole30 is indulging in anything that sounds good at any time. I think you have to commit yourself to eating meat and veggies most of the time and to eat other foods only rarely. By rarely, I mean no more than once or twice per week. And those times should be reserved for occasions when it is really difficult to find anything else to eat.
I hope more people speak up on this topic because I don't think I am giving you as many ideas as would be useful.
Blissfulnewme reacted to skeslack in Day 29 -- Newbies hang in there!
It is hard to believe how fast 30 days went by now when the first two weeks seemed to drag. I felt compelled to write a quick note about my non-scale victories because the last 4-5 days of my Whole30 are when those became abundantly clear. You really do just have to hang in there until something "clicks" suddenly and the whole thing gets easier, food tastes better, and life is more enjoyable. Here is my list of NSV's but not in any particular order.
Increased energy that stays CONSISTENT all day! No more highs and lows with afternoon and eventually no coffee to help me with those late day crashes. I have consistently high energy all day long. Increased productivity at home because of my better energy level. I prep, cook, clean, workout, do housework, knit, read, etc, and work over 40 hours per week. Getting off Facebook has helped me a lot, too, but I think before I quit I was on it a lot because I was so tired at the end of the day, surfing the Internet was the same as sitting in front of a TV all night. My increased energy level means I'm not eager to sit and veg at the end of my day. Tired and ready for bed earlier than I have been in a long time. Having more energy to be more productive all day means I'm actually tired and ready for sleep at a decent time. I haven't gone to bed before 10pm in years and just in the last week or so I've been genuinely tired and ready for sleep by 9:30pm and I honor that need instead of pushing through it. NO cravings for COFFEE! Zero coffee for 30 days with no headaches and no fatigue. I haven't gone that long without coffee in 10 years and I feel great! No need to start drinking it again at all! Sugar cravings are WAY down. I used to crave gummy candy like crazy because of the candida in my gut. No more! I have had zero interest in chocolate this entire month--that is unheard of for me! Loving my time in the kitchen prepping no, cooking, and cleaning. I think of it now as self-care and meditative time. It is fun to try to cook new things and I take great pride and joy in my neat, clean kitchen and refrigerator full of good nutritious food. Becoming a better cook! It is a long-standing joke that my father thinks I can't cook but even he said Im becoming a better cook! NO canker sores!!! This is like a miracle! I almost ALWAYS have a canker sore and I just realized today that I have had no ethics entire 30 days. This week I think my skin is finally turning around. I have bad adult acne that is worse with my period. I started the Whole30 on my period and I'm ending on it, but the difference in my skin is like night and day. When I started I went through a pretty bad detox phase where my face was a terrible mess just after starting the Whole30 on top of the hormones from my period. This week, I have a couple of blemishes, but nothing like the painful, thick pussy sores of week one. Food. Tastes. Delicious. Just a snow pea pod or a slice of red bell pepper is like the most delicious sweet treat on the planet. And avocado? Better than chocolate! Olives? Mmmmm....don't even get me started. A juicy steak, roasted brussell sprouts, steamed asparagus....the list of deliciousness goes on. A snow pea pod had never tasted as good as it did two nights ago at my parents house. This change in my taste buds has definitely been in just the last 4 days or so and I love it. Just the thought of several of my past favorite sweet treats makes me feel a little sick to my stomach, as though I can already tell it would make me sick. I'm thrilled with my NSV's and not really even concerned with the scale at this point. My clothes fit comfortably, my husband likes how I look, and I feel strong and energetic. Hang in there newbies. It really is worth it and the positive things that click in just the last few days are worth the effort! Thank you Whole30!!!
Blissfulnewme reacted to DMKC in In need of serious encouragement!
Hope you are doing better.
Sometimes we get to much into our heads and thoughts then race. Just go do something fun and get your mind off bad thoughts. Once a day visual what you want and see yourself in the picture being happy.
I agree don't date for awhile and just give yourself a break, do not be so hard on yourself. It's time to get back on track.
Blissfulnewme reacted to Kac1014 in Day 31! We Did It!!
Day 31! We did it!! YAY!
Surprisingly the 30 days actually went pretty fast! My husband and I have both grown to really enjoy eating this way. We are planning to do a full reintroduction because I'm really curious to know what bothers my system, but we are still planning to continue eating this way 90% of the time (relaxing a bit when out to eat with friends or the occasional summer treat).
Crazy clear and smooth skin
I've fit into a few pieces of clothing that I haven't fit into in a long time
By about day 4 I had already lost a ton of bloat
Both my husband and I are looking much slimmer
Increased energy (once I figured out the right amount and mix of foods that I needed)
Increased confidence in my body
Learned a lot about how the different macro nutrients effect me and how little changes to the ratios can effect my energy/mood
Realized just how much crap is in so much of the "food" that is out there (especially in things I thought were pretty clean before i.e. deli meat)
Realized that I don't miss so many of the things I though I could never live without (cheese, bread, pasta, etc)
Decreased sugar cravings (even though they weren't too bad before starting)
Discovered some AWESOME new healthy recipes that I will be more than happy to keep making even when not on Whole30
And as an added bonus, I lost about 11 lbs and my husband lost 14!
This weekend we will start to slowly reintroduce. We're going with non-gluten grains first. I'm looking forward to some tacos with corn tortillas!
I was a little hesitant at the beginning of this Whole30 journey, but the effort has been well worth it and I am so glad that we did it!
Blissfulnewme reacted to MeadowLily in In need of serious encouragement!
Boyfriend advice. Don't date anyone for a good long while. When you're beyond the holding pattern of choosing a person with specific and similar traits...then you can cross that bridge. But be encouraged, choosing a boyfriend is not the same as choosing a husband. Serial daters or cereal daters, stay away from both of those. Dating is an extended audition of constantly gathering info and assessing futures...until sigh and alas, you both can see the altar.
Alrighty then. You know the drill and what to do. You're going to have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette and get yourself back on track. Shop, Chop, Prep, Cook and whistle while you work. Turn your music on and wash those men right outta your hair. Keep your eyes wide open for those who look specifically for vulnerable ones just coming off a marriage or relationship. Don't tell them much about your past until you know them.
You also reserve the right to change your mind at any moment. You deserve the best because YOU are sooooo worth it.
Blissfulnewme reacted to jmcbn in Not Quite Getting Fats
A closed handful of nuts/seeds every other day is about as much as we'd recommend.
You could try making egg free mayo with avocado oil (option 2 or 3 here) - it's a bit of a faff, but it is something other than oil to put on a salad or roasted veg. then there's also ghee, tallow, lard, schmaltz, duck fat, goose fat, compliant bacon, fatty cuts of meat like shin/brisket, chicken thighs with skins on...
The oil you're using to cook really isn't enough.
Re the coconut you can buy refined coconut which has the flavour removed.
Hope this helps
Blissfulnewme reacted to fifthj in I weigh the same but I'm not the same
I was in a bad place when I started the Whole 30.
It was 8 months after giving birth to my second child. I was still 22 lbs overweight despite working out several times a week and choosing “healthy” foods (not much meat, lots of grains and beans). I ate zero packaged junk food, but I had delicious high quality pastries a couple times a week and thought nothing of it. Oh, and I regularly had 2-3 glasses of wine per night just to “wind down.” My childhood asthma had returned. My skin was on a hormonal rollercoaster; besides breakouts I had eczema and keratosis pilaris (chicken skin bumps on back of my arms).
I was always hungry and always eating. I tried calorie counting. I tried Weight Watchers when the calorie counting got demoralizing. I tried weighing all my food when WW didn’t work. All that micromanaging sucked the joy out of living, and I still couldn’t lose the weight.
My mantra was that I deserved that pastry/glass of wine/bowl of tortilla chips because I had been “so good” all day. I’d pile on the calories after the kids were in bed.
But then I simply turned a corner, and decided that I deserved to feel healthy, to feel like I did before my pregnancy. Heck, why not feel even better than that?
So I decided to give W30 a try. What did I have to lose?
Which begs the question, 30 days later, what did I lose?
As it turns out I lost ZERO pounds. 30 days of total compliance, and I weigh exactly the same. Yep, I’m one of those. (At this moment in time, while nursing, anyway.)
I gave myself an hour or so to feel really down about it. But then I took at the NSVs I drafted yesterday before I weighed in.
I weigh the same, but I’m not the same.
- the ability to breathe freely without asthma. This is truly priceless. I have not touched my inhalers in one month.
- a peaceful relationship with food. I’m not battling it any longer. I know what makes me feel good. And once I finish the reintros I’ll know what doesn’t!
- knowledge and acceptance. I know my body is holding on to this weight because it needs it for nursing. Sure, I can tweak things here or there, but by and large I’ve proved to myself that it just doesn’t want to let go of it right now. I’m going to have to be patient. I am ready to stop nursing for a variety of reasons, but it may take a while for my hormones to catch up.
So, what next?
I’m going to do reintroductions to see which food group(s) were exacerbating the asthma.
I'll have the occasional glass of wine over the next week or so (we’re traveling).
I also had bloodwork done on Day 25. In two weeks I will meet with my chiropractor who has nutritional training to review that. Perhaps there are hormonal factors at play that can be worked on.
Once I know the bloodwork results, I’ll decide whether to jump into another Whole30. For now, I will stay compliant while at home, avoid whatever it is that’s causing the asthma even when out, and have the occasional glass of wine.
But mostly, I am going to enjoy the calm Whole30 has brought to my life and give my body some grace.
Read on for details if you’d like. As always, I’m open to any feedback on how to move forward. These forums were an amazing resource through the whole process.
- Asthma GONE without the use of steroid inhalers
- Skin clearer
- Nails growing like crazy
- Eczema gone
- Keratosis pilaris (chicken skin on arms) drastically reduced
- On the rare occasions where my alarm goes off before the kids are up, I only press snooze once instead of three or four times
- I can see my waist again! hallelujah!
- Clothes fit better and I can get into some I couldn’t a month ago
- Even energy all day long
- More time between meals means more efficient work
- Free from cravings. I no longer struggle with food choices.
- Not tempted to eat after dinner
- I don’t “need” wine to relax anymore
- I don’t need to weigh myself every day as I used to
What went well:
- I rocked it with the homemade condiments: mayo, ketchup, ranch dip and Nom Nom Paleo’s “magic mushroom” seasoning were my favorites
- Egg bakes saved my bacon for breakfast - such a time saver, and great to start the day without having to “think” about the meal
- Kombucha was the perfect treat instead of wine/beer/cocktails
- I made it through Easter with flying colors
- I cooked many compliant meals for my extended family (we’re talking large groups of 12-20 people, and they all loved them)
- I did NOT evangelize to my family, which is something I’d done in the past, but tried to set a quiet example
What could have gone better:
- I ate more frequently and had more fruit and potatoes than necessary in the beginning. I was still breastfeeding heavily then (I’m down to one nursing session a day now), so I was nervous about my supply and likely overdid it. All compliant, so no harm done, but once I got down to 3 (large, by my previous standards) meals per day, which was about two weeks in, I felt much better.
- Some days I ate 1/2 an avocado at every meal. Maybe I need to dial that back to 1/3.
- Still having some skin breakouts but then again I’m in a transitional place hormonally as I slowly stop breastfeeding
- Sleep is not a long or solid as I would like, mostly due to kids waking me up - if fact, SLEEP could be the largest factor in the weight hanging on.
- I need to drink more water. 62 oz/day isn’t cutting it.
What I’ll do in the future, to keep doing better:
- Make fruit and potatoes a once a day thing, not an every meal thing
- Aim to be in bed by 8 and asleep by 9
- Read for 1hr before bed instead of watching tv
- Dial coffee back to one cup per day, replace second cup with matcha
- Aim to drink 3 32-oz bottle of water/day
- Keep working with my preschooler on not waking us at night when he goes to the bathroom in the middle of the night. He can do it, but it helps when we prep him by talking about it before bedtime.
- Let my husband take over the 5:30 feedings when he is home so I can sleep longer
- Take measurements to track inches lost, not just weight
- Stay on whole 30 at home. I rarely eat out (maybe once a week) so that would be a pretty complaint lifestyle, and I find it easy to do at home.
- I won’t go back to having stevia in my coffee. That was the hardest thing to give up, and I think it was triggering a cycle of sugar cravings. In fact I may even give up my almond milk. I think I’m ready to enjoy coffee black, and I like the simplicity of that.
Blissfulnewme got a reaction from praxisproject in I'm ready. Start Feb. 8th
How was everyone's day 1 and 2? I had strong cravings for gluten free pancakes (with chocolate!) both days but I didn't give in and I noticed the craving would just disappear!
I was also unprepared for this round, but I'm keeping it basic until I get the inspiration to throw in some new ideas
Blissfulnewme reacted to Brewer5 in Sugar Addict
I came across this tonight, and thought it was so helpful ~ and so appropriate.
"Understanding Addiction: How Addiction Hijacks the Brain"
A couple of interesting parts:
"The hippocampus and the amygdala store information about environmental cues associated with the desired substance, so that it can be located again. These memories help create a conditioned response—intense craving—whenever the person encounters those environmental cues."
"and I actually don’t miss them, really. But…….I miss the dishes or experiences that they are a part of."
"It is not enough to “just say no”—as the 1980s slogan suggested. Instead, you can protect (and heal) yourself from addiction by saying “yes” to other things. Cultivate diverse interests that provide meaning to your life. Understand that your problems usually are transient, and perhaps most importantly, acknowledge that life is not always supposed to be pleasurable."
What a great thing for all of us to remember. Things will be uncomfortable sometimes, and that is just the way it is.
Blissfulnewme reacted to michelemybelle in I'm ready. Start Feb. 8th
starting today too! I'm not as angry about my coconut milk coffee as I expected but ask me again in a few days I read the book awhile ago, and have had a few friends who have done several rounds. One friend is on week 2 now, and offering lots of encouragement. I'm not as prepared as I wanted to be though. I've been so busy but I think I was using that as an excuse, so I did a quick run shopping last night and decided to jump in today. Day 30 will be the day before my 40th birthday so I'm thinking that's fitting in some way. If I waited I would've been bogged down with hours of recipe searching and lists upon lists and gotten lost in the meal planning and been discouraged (which is what has typically happened in the past). So I have few simple go to's to get me through the next few days.
*question: my friend was saying the "rules" are a little more lax now with store bought almond milk but I wasn't able to find anything on that? Any ideas?
Blissfulnewme reacted to NicoleLouise76 in NSV's & so much more!
My first Whole30 has been an amazing experience. I first heard about Whole30 back in the summer, and it really took me 6 months to find a "good time" to do it, and to realize that any time I chose would have its challenges. Looking back from the other side, I am so happy I took it on! I taught myself that I am capable of more than I would have ever imagined!
I'll be honest, my main motivation for starting was, and still is, weight loss. I've gained 40lbs since 2010 and have been feeling desperate trying to figure out how to get it off. Weight Watchers enforces my food obsession with all that counting, and using my Fitness Pal to count calories isn't much better. Isagenix gave me good weight loss results on their 30 day cleanse, but its mega expensive, not sustainable, includes 2 days a week where you actually EAT NOTHING (and drink sugar water) - how crazy. Oh, and there is nothing "real food" about it. About 6-8 months ago I learned about the paleo/primal/LCHF community and started playing with my macros - it seemed to work, but because I wasn't fully cutting out the sugary stuff, I was still a slave to my cravings. While I lost a quick 5lbs, life got crazy, carbs crept back in (along with my yummy increased fat intake!) and the weight kept climbing. I did feel like I was finally understanding the right path though, and Whole30 was about fully committing to this new lifestyle, tackling the sugar addiction, and starting to build habits that I can take into the years ahead.
So, of course yesterday morning I stepped on the scale first thing. Maybe I shouldn't have, but with 40lbs to lose and years of feeling like LITERALLY nothing worked, I wanted to see how this amazing feeling I was cultivating was translating in the numbers. 9lbs down! What a massive win! I feel like this was the easiest 9lbs I have EVER lost.
The non-scale victories are plentiful as well:
My engagement ring fits my finger for the first time in 1.5 years My skin is clear I'm getting comments about how bright my eyes are I think I lost a bunch of fat because my clothes are fitting better than the last time I was at this same weight. Achy joints in the AM are gone Chronic UTI's seem to be under better control Confidence! Loads of it! No 3pm crashes or cravings No more hangry - hunger pangs aren't nearly as urgent as they used to be When I wash my hair, it seems less of it goes down the drain My ski pants almost fit! I haven't skied in 3 seasons because my ski pants didn't fit. I was mega ashamed so I just pretended I wasn't really interested anymore. My husband and I used to ski ALL THE TIME - it was a big part of our early years together and I can't wait to get out on the slopes again (I need to lose a TOUCH more before they are comfy, but I can actually do them up now!) I cried when I pulled them on and could do them up! My husband can't keep his hands off me
And the biggest, most amazing, most miraculous NSV:
I can sit in a livingroom full of friends, surrounded by yummy non-compliant food and big glasses of wine, AND ITS OK. I'm not stressed, I'm not anxious, I'm not wanting to scarf it all down. I seriously did NOT think that was possible for me. Ever.
I'm inspiring others. 3 of my girlfriends are now looking into doing their own Whole30, and my husband is slowly getting his head around the idea. Most of these people have far more digestive woes/medical issues than I ever had. I just wanted to get my weight under control! I'm really excited for them!
So what's next for me?
Well, I am going to continue my Whole30 journey for another 30 days. This month, my specific goals are to:
Start exercising Be more deliberate about drinking enough water Come up with more creative yummy ways to eat veggies (Its still not habit and I they're still not my preference)
Wish me luck - and good luck to you if you're reading this!
Blissfulnewme reacted to JennLynn in Sugar Addict
Hi, my name is Jenn, and I have a sugar addiction. The first step is to acknowledge it which I do and I’m learning to control it. However….I would like to take a minute to hate it. I hate that I can’t eat quesadillas because even the darn tortilla breaks down into sugar and drives my craving for “sugar” foods up. I hate that I can’t even eat a small piece of bread for the same reason………I have stopped eating bread and tortillas and pasta and chocolate and donuts and cookies etc…….and I actually don’t miss them, really. But…….I miss the dishes or experiences that they are a part of. I miss a quesadilla. I miss the bread with yummy olive oil as part of the dinner at a restaurant.
I hate being a sugar addict. I like feeling good. So……feeling good gets to win……..I will continue to acknowledge that I have a sugar addiction. I will use that knowledge to stay strong and not eat things that feed my sugar monkey. I hope someday I don’t miss certain dishes and can be happy with experiences without the bread. I wish there were SAA (Sugar Addicts Anonymous) meetings I could attend. I crave live body support, not just virtual support……but you go with what you got.
Blissfulnewme got a reaction from Grapefruitgal in In need of a pep talk!
Grapefruitgal, thank you so much for that helpful info!! I really appreciate it! Those are great ideas
And thanks for the encouragement!
I'm keeping up with exercising and now I just need one more push to fully commit to doing another round of Whole30!