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  1. True Primal

    Heavy legs and unable to run for anymore than 4Km

    Has your macronutrient intake changed dramatically?
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    PRE WORKOUT HELP???

    There was another thread about this recently, and I think this hits on my concern from that other thread. The OP mentions a training regimen that adds up to 11 hours a week. That sounds REALLY high, especially for someone that seems to not be an advanced high-level athlete. With that level of training you need all the calories you can get. You can't afford to skip pre-workout meals, or you're probably going to crash and burn. The new guidelines I think are trying to mitigate that. But it might be worthwhile to reconsider the total amount of intense exercise that requires that additional fuel.
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    What do you drink?

    Smartwater Sparkling is pretty good also.
  4. I hope they add some caveats around the "why" of that. As mentioned above I'd concerned about recommending that level of high-intensity glycogen-depleting workout for Whole30 inductees. Surely at least some proportion of Whole30 inductees are new to fitness as well, and that level of training is (I suspect) not a great fit for many. Also as mentioned in the https://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-to-metabolic-flexibility/ article they might want to consider other metabolic issues if they've come to Whole30 from years of processed sugar.
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    Bacon Fat as Cooking Fat?

    Yes - hanging it from the oven racks is the new peak performance way. Baking it laid flat is so 30,000 BC. Or maybe reverse those two.
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    Bacon Fat as Cooking Fat?

    Indeed the next question should be how to get as much as possible. Answer: baking bacon to collect the most bacon grease.
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    Pre workout near lunch time

    FYI, I've experimented for several weeks with coconut flakes as a pre-workout, and blackberries. My workouts do seem to be slightly better with the blackberries. (I've been strength training for a while. I do intermittent fasting somewhat randomly and skip meals with no issue, so my metabolism seems pretty good at this point. I think the new guidelines are aimed more towards metabolically flexible people, vs the older guidelines.)
  8. So, over the span of 10 hours of hiking you are well beyond the glycogen-fuel threshold. The pre-workout/post-workout recommendations of either the original Whole 30 template or the new article just don't really apply to that. Check out https://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-to-metabolic-flexibility/, which really goes into both of these in a way that I think should be incorporated into their guidelines.
  9. I've been thinking about that sipping fruit juice comment on and off since yesterday. So, the new article says: "If your workout will last longer than 45 minutes and is performed continuously at a moderate to high intensity, it’s advantageous to replenish the fuel you’ve burned through to ensure you’re able to maintain a high-rate of performance." If the goal is optimal athletic performance, that's probably true. But I think this new guideline may be a bit misleading for many people starting a Whole 30. Unless you've been training for years already, I'd be concerned about people just trying to improve wellness doing 45+ minutes of high intensity exercise. If someone was diabetic or pre-diabetic especially, a 45+ min high-intensity workout seems like a recipe for burnout and failure.
  10. Ah interesting. Well, both have their place I think. I suspect the general population of sedentary first-world people would be better off performing the original guideline, but the new guideline might make more people likely to stick with it?
  11. Thanks, I do see https://whole30.com/downloads/whole30-meal-planning.pdf specifically advocates low-carb pre-workout. It looks like on the Whole30 itself, the focus is more on improving insulin sensitivity, and the new Paul Salter article is aiming for peak training performance. There are certainly lots of low-carb athletic advocates in the paleo world though. I suspect Whole30 as an organization did not intend for the Paul Salter article to be new guidelines for everyone, but rather another possible option to try. Looking at them side-by-side it is confusing. They should footnote the Paul Salter article or something to explain the difference between them. Perhaps a forum admin can somehow escalate that question?
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    Protein (beef fat)

    Thanks, those are interesting! They focus on lipophilic toxin molecules accumulating in fat. It certainly makes sense for some toxins to be more likely to accumulate there. I still wonder, more holistically, though, if it's really a win to trim the fat off of low-quality meat. For example, if you feed glyphosate-coated grains to cattle, where does the glyphosate mostly go? Glyphosate doesn't appear to be lipophilic. And that's just one molecule (though perhaps one of the more relevant ones). It seems like it would come down to a question of what are the most commonly found concerning toxins in factor-farmed meat, and whether those are lipophilic or not? Incidentally, we only use pastured 100% grass-fed beef in True Primal soup. It might be worthwhile to create a page on this topic, both in general and as a selling point for our soup, but will need to do more investigation.
  13. What's the other guideline that the link at the top differs from? Is there a URL for the other one, or is it referring to one of the books..?
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    Protein (beef fat)

    It sounds plausible at least, but I tried to look for research/articles/studies on that and can't find anything.
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    Protein (beef fat)

    If you're worried about low quality meat being contaminated with pollutants etc, why are you only concerned about the fat though?