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Have anyone’s symptoms lasted a week or longer?
jordanbrantley posted a topic in Whole30 Reintroduction
Wrapped up my first Whole30 in October and reintroduced legumes on Oct 31st: peanut butter, hummus and black beans — probably 2T of each. I thought it would be an easy first re-intro because I didn’t think these foods bothered me... (haaaa) That day I was super bloated, the next day I had small dry, itchy patches on my ear lobes and a couple bumps around my wrist/forearm area which has turned into a rash that has gotten worse and moved to other areas every day since. It is currently covering my ears, arms, neck and most of my face. It has been 6 days since I reintroduced legumes. I’ve stuck to a Whole30 diet since reintroduction day. I’ve applied tea tree oil with jojoba or coconut oil and Benadryl cream which helps the itching and inflammation but doesn’t make it go away, and taken Benadryl at night which hasn’t lessened the rash. Logging my experience since in case anyone searching for something similar can read — and wondering if anyone else has experienced symptoms lasting this long and getting worse everyday. Starting to worry that something else is going on, with terrible timing! Thanks! -
What are some of the negative effects to be mindful of when reintroducing legumes? I was careful to not reintroduce too many today, but wondering what to look out for.
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So on day 31 there is a restaurant I'm going to that serves homemade fries. They are made in soybean oil and their chicken is cooked in a combination of oils including corn oil. I was wondering what kind of food group am I reintroducing here? Is it legumes? If I'm eating fries, does that mean I can eat any kind of fries? (say if I had hash browns or heated up some frozen fries for lunch or fast food fries, etc..)
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I began whole 30, not for weight loss, but rather because of stomach pain... Before whole 30, I would eat a homemade Ham & Bean soup with no pain... Yesterday, I started reintroducing legumes and had some of said soup... However, by the end of the evening, I wound up with such pain in my stomach and I felt so sick! The only difference to the recipe -- I used dried beans instead of canned. Even though the beans were soaked overnight, and were cooking for hours and hours, the beans never really softened. Could this be the reason I had the stomach pain? Perhaps my stomach couldn't digest the beans because they were not soft enough??? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! ~ Sheri
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Reintroduction - do I keep everything else template compliant?
Christine H posted a topic in Whole30 Reintroduction
Hi everyone, I couldn't find this in the book or in other posts. I know that I'm supposed to only add one food group per day and to not eat legumes again when I test grains, for instance. But should I keep my meals template compliant on the reintroduction days? For instance, I'm thinking of using chana masala (this recipe, one of my favourite dishes) for dinner on my legumes reintroduction day, though without rice, obviously. I'm not sure how much protein the chickpeas contain, but it is undoubtably less than a palm sized piece of meat. So should I eat more protein on the side? (Usually I wouldn't do so when eating this dish.) And should I still pay attention that my meals contain enough fat as well?- 1 reply
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Hi Whole30 friends! I took 9 total days to reintroduce several different legumes (peanuts, soy, black beans) and had NO problems. I have now started reintroducing non-gluten grains. I ate white rice yesterday. So today is a clean eating day and there is a soup in the cafe I want to try...lemon ginger split-pea soup. All the ingredients are compliant, obviously the split peas are a legume. So my question is two fold - first, if I had no trouble with the three legumes I already reintroduced, do I really need a separate day for split peas or is it fair to assume all legumes are fine? and second...how important is it to eat 100% whole30 clean between reintroduction days? Is it okay to eat whole30 clean plus foods that you have found to be not a problem for you?
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Today is my first day of reintroduction. I started by adding cannellini beans to my breakfast and hummus to my lunch. I’ve noticed a little gassiness but wonder, doesn’t everyone experience that with beans? If it’s mild, is that normal or a reaction?
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R1D31 from my Lenten Whole30 and I started the reintroduction with legumes: hummus included with breakfast... didn’t have any negative effects YES! I miss hummus and chickpeas in general peanut butter (Kraft Crunchy my regular) included with lunch... oh oh... within 30 minutes severe diarrhoea, stomach cramps and a strange reaction (to me anyway) of intense muscle pain in my right upper shoulder radiating up into my neck to behind my ear. Not pleasant definitely not worth it! peas included with dinner... within 30 minutes some stomach twinges, return of the shoulder/neck pain, a brief headache and 3 hours after eating, I was ravenous and started snacking without control! I have a couple of questions... 1. Is it possible to not have a reaction to a specific legume while having various levels of reactions to others? After the reintroduction phase, I would definitely like to include chickpeas as a part of my weekly meals as a vegetarian alternative. 2. Would it be wise to do a redo reintroduction of plain peanuts to make sure it wasn’t the added ingredients that cause my reactions? i would do this as a slow roll following the fast track outline. 3. Is the muscle pain reaction normal? Thanks for any insights
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Has anyone reintroduced legumes and had insomnia as a side effect? Yesterday was my first reintroduction day, and then I woke up at 3:30 with anxiety and a panic attack. That's not atypical for me, but it hasn't happened in a couple months. Yesterday, I ate: Pre/post workout: apple and peanut butter Breakfast: two eggs and sweet potato hash cooked in olive oil Lunch: three hardboiled eggs and sweet potato hash (I ran out of veggies) Snack: apple Dinner: Chipotle bowl: black beans, barbacoa, peppers/onions, tomato and hot salsas, guac, and lettuce. I know not all the chipotle ingredients are not whole30 compliant (e.g., barbacoa and peppers and onions are cooked in rice bran oil), but from what I've read about reintroduction, it seems okay not to adhere to the super-strict rules. I welcome your thoughts!
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I just finished my second Whole30 on Tuesday. Last time I did the Whole30 I did not properly follow a reintroduction plan, so this time I'm following the one in the book to a T. The first thing I have reintroduced is legumes. I had peanut butter with my breakfast, hummus with my lunch and black beans with dinner. The next morning I woke up with skin irritation around my mouth, I was itchy and red all day and it has continued to this morning (the second day after I reintroduced the legumes). Since it's not gone today I'm wondering if maybe it could be more because of the external environment (spring allergies). Has anyone else had this reaction? Also I'm wondering if this was caused by all the different types of legumes I ate or if just one is doing it. THANK YOU!
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I'm on day 1 of reintro. Had some peanut butter with breakfast. Felt fine. Had some black beans with lunch. Within a couple hours, I was sure my body and black beans do not get along. So, does this mean all beans are out for me? Or is each bean different?
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Legumes: to reintroduce, or not to reintroduce?
juliacurrcoop posted a topic in Whole30 Reintroduction
Hi all, Today is day 30! Looking at the suggested reintroduction days in my book... I really can't think of a legume I've craved or am excited to invite into my diet on legume day, so I'm thinking of skipping the reintroduction of legumes altogether. I'm interested in keeping up with the Whole30 lifestyle after reintroduction, just with a little less anxious interrogation before and during mealtime out at a restaurant. I know I have been surprised to find out that something has been cooked in soybean or peanut oil. If I'm only concerned about traces of legume/legume oil in my restaurant foods, should I: a) reintroduce legumes as suggested in the example plan; b)reintroduce only the oils...?; or c) skip legume day as initially planned, and be aware of the possible affects when eating out? Maybe there's a d) ??? Thanks in advance! -
I recently finished my first whole30 and I've started doing reintroductions. Surprisingly, I had no noticeable reaction to wheat. Dairy gave me hives. Today I ate some peanut butter and have become very bloated and have pretty bad gas pains. Is this a typical response to peanuts or to legumes in general? I'm trying to decide if I should try introducing other legumes or just avoid them all based on this reaction. Is there anything specific to peanuts that might cause this reaction, or is it likely to happen with all legumes?
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Hey everyone, Where I live there is a long pod/bean that is cultivated and eaten because it's cheap, healthy(?) and cheap. My question is - although I already suspect the answer - is this something I can eat while on the Whole 30? As per Wikipedia " Vigna unguiculata subsp. sesquipedalis is a legume cultivated to be eaten as green pods. It is known as the yardlong bean, bora, bodi, long-podded cowpea, asparagus bean, pea bean, snake bean, or Chinese long bean. Despite the common name, the pods are actually only about half a yard long; the subspecies name sesquipedalis (one-and-a-half-foot-long) is a rather accurate approximation of the pods' length." So while it is a legume can it fall into the snowpeas category?
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Hey there, It's day 1 of re-introduction--1:55 pm and I feel like I could pass out at my desk. Can legumes be the culprit??? Breakfast: Eggs, refried beans, bacon and broccoli stems Lunch: Zoodles, with turkey pasta sauce, bacon ( again, i know!), peas I've also felt what might have been a fleeting cramp after each meal. Mainly, i just can't believe how wiped out I feel right now, could these little legumes be the reason??
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Hello! I just completed my first Whole30 on November 30th and am in the process of re-introduction now. I chose to re-introduce gluten first, then dairy, and am scheduled to re-introduce non-gluten grains next. I won't be able to re-introduce all legumes after that because I'm scheduled to have a c-section the day I would be re-introducing them. Since I'm not going to know if any effects on my body are due to the legumes or the surgery or the fact that I'll be post-partum, I'm post-poning my re-introduction of legumes to a later date. However, I would like re-introduce pea protein at the same time I re-introduce non-gluten grains. While I understand pea is a legume, I would like to include it earlier in my re-introduction to determine my sensitivity to it before I give birth. Are there any direct contraindications to doing this? Or is it more of a "you shouldn't, but you're an adult, so do what you want" sort of thing? TIA!
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Quick back story....my main pre Whole30 issue was fatigue and exhaustion. I have lots of weight to lose, but my main concern was the exhaustion. I got "tiger blood" on day 20, and for the next 10 days, while those high energy levels didn't stick around, I still felt so much better! I have no cravings and no problem with Whole30. It has been life changing. My symptoms during reintroduction.... Day 1 I tried legumes first. Meal one: organic peanut butter, no sugar, compliant, on apples, plus eggs and veggies. No immediate symptom, but noticed it did not taste that great. Meal two: organic dried black beans that I cooked myself, ate 1/2 cup, alongside a regular Whole30 meal. Began feeling fatigue and exhaustion again. Felt so bad by dinner time, I decided to stop eating legumes that day. Felt tired and exhausted, for two more days. Didn't sleep well. Day 4 Meal 1: I ate 3/4 cup of GF organic rolled oats, cooked by me, with a banana smashed for sweetness, and some cinnamon plus I ate 2 eggs. Meal 2: I had organic White Corn tortilla chips, I had one serving, with some homemade guacamole. The fatigue and exhaustion returned. I chose to not eat any other grains that day. My sleep was horrible for three to four days. The exhuastion came first, and then, I didn't sleep well for days. I stopped the reintroduction. Today is reintroduction day 9. I slept well the past two nights and feel good. I am considering reintroducing dairy tomorrow. I needed a break to get my energy back and feel good again. My Questions: Can exhaustion/sleep issues be symptoms of sensitivities to these foods? Should I assume that I can't have legumes and non gluten grains, except for when I feel it will be worth it? Should I continue reintroducing these other foods, dairy and gluten grains? Am I weird to have just these reactions to foods and nothing else?
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So I'm starting on the Whole 30 tomorrow, August 29. Can anyone tell me if sprouted pulses count as banned legumes? I want to add them to my salads. My aims for this month: to lose some weight, improve my mood and skin, get relief from a painful hip joint and have more energy I'd love to hear from others who have seen changes in these areas/are looking for changes in similar issues! Also any tips on managing initial bad moods would be greatly appreciated! Which books from the ones written by the Hartwigs would you consider essential reading? I'm planning to order The Whole 30 today. Thank you and good luck with your Whole 30!
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Hi there, I am seriously considering doing a family Whole 30 but I have a burning question which I have not seen answered in It Starts with Food or the Whole 30 book. The premise of the book/method is to find a foundation for health, not weight loss or ....., but health. If I was to mimic a diet of a people group who are the most healthy, you would look in the Blue Zones who have a reputation for long life and a lack of disease. My query is, if I look at these people groups, they all eat foods which are not Whole30 compliant, eg. rice, legumes, grains. True health it seems is not linked to specific foods, but a lifestyle of one which involves movement, sunshine, lack of stress, whole foods made from scratch and community/togetherness. My family does not have any health concerns so if my long term intention is to reintroduce some of these foods into our diet, is a Whole30 worth the planning, expense and rules based lifestyle for a month for other reasons? I am a foodie who loves all things food and the thought of cutting out whole food groups, even for a month seems extreme, but I would do it for a challenge, if nothing else. I get why people would do it as a guided elimination diet, but I don't see it as long term or necessary for good health. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance, Corrie
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I am confused about what properly prepared legumes means. Does this refer to the type of pre-soaking?
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Today is my Legume Reintroduction day. I have not cared much for legumes mostly. Prefer chili without beans; no refried beans for me at the Mexican restaurant, no baked beans at the church social. But I do like garbanzos in a few dishes, so that is my legume of choice. Previously, I have observed that peanuts (which I like), and peanut butter (which I like) and soy nut butter (also like), made me feel rather sluggish after I ate them. I'll call it Legume Lethargy. So today I am only using garbanzos and soy sauce, neither of which ever gave me any trouble. (that I know of) This morning I added about half of one can garbanzos to my breakfast soup. It was delightful! For lunch I had channa masala (an Indian garbanzo dish) with sweet potatoes and poached fish and broccoli. I used to have it on rice but not today. Actually, I think I like it better with sweet potatoes. Thank you, Whole30, for new discoveries! I noticed feeling a little lower level gassiness in the mid-afternoon. This is probably from the breakfast rather than the lunch. Hmmmmmmm, if this is the only problem I could probably eat them once in a while and make sure to take digestive enzymes with the meal. Fortunately, no lethargy. Tonight I am making an oriental style salad using soy sauce in the dressing. Tune in tomorrow, folks, or the next day, for the dramatic results.
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Yesterday was my first reintroduction day and I started with legumes. I had pinto beans with both M1 and M2, and I intended to eat an apple with peanut butter with M3, but I accidentally left the apple and pb at home and couldn't replace it so no legumes at M3. All in all I ate about 2/3 of a can of pinto beans. Was this enough to test? I will say that I felt great with the beans. So far no negative reaction at all, and on the contrary, I think that bit of added fiber with meals 1 and 2 may have actually given my digestive system a good boost by the afternoon. Forgive me, but I won't be coy here, it was the best poo I've had since I started Whole30. Is it possible the beans had this effect so quickly or was this probably a coincidence? Wondering if I should go ahead and eat that peanut butter today and then just add an extra day before I start the next reintro, so I can make sure I've tested thoroughly enough. Would love some advice. Thanks!
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I'm on Day 32. Yesterday, I introduced the "pulse" legumes -- black beans, chickpeas, lentils -- which I love and was very happy to have back in my diet. I've decided to leave soy and peanuts off my diet indefinitely, because I don't miss them. ( I did have an accidental dose of soy about halfway through my whole 30 when I ordered some ahi tuna on a salad and didn't realize they seared it with soy. It was a tiny amount and it didn't affect me at all. I don't think peanuts affect me either, but almond butter tastes so much better, who needs peanut butter?) Anyway, here's my question: If I feel no ill effects from the beans I introduced yesterday (so far, so good), do I still need to wait two days to eat beans again? Because I have leftovers in my fridge and they don't keep that long ... Also, is it fine to keep eating beans as I reintroduce other categories? I never did understand that part. Once you establish that a certain category doesn't really affect you, do you still leave it off while introducing other categories? I'm feeling great and enjoying Whole 30 eating. I don't expect to ever go back to eating the way I did before. Thank you, Whole 30 team! Vicki
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I recently completed the Whole30 and am in the process of reintroducing foods. During the Whole30 I went off medication for overactive bladder and experienced no issues during the entire time. When I reintroduced legumes (lentils specifically) the urgency returned very agressively within 12 hours. What I am not sure about is whether this was a reaction to legumes or coincidence as I have been able to be off medication for overactive bladder for up to a year in the past without any symptoms. The other matter I am trying to figure out is if it was tied to the dish having tomato paste in it -- and therefore irritating the bladder, rather than the legumes (have not had issues with tomatoes in the past, but thought this might be very concentrated). After 4 days the symptoms calmed down significantly and seem to be subsiding completely. I can't find any literature on legumes irritating the bladder. The only thing I have found is that they function s a diuretic. Others with similar experiences or thoughts?
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I have looked for tempeh, but it seems they have grains in them, and at the minimum there is rice. Does anyone know of any tempeh that is simply fermented soy? Where do you get it? Also, as a vegetarian for 20 years, I have tried to avoid soy products like soy milk, edamame, and tofu due to some research linking soy to thyroid issues, increased risk of breast cancer, and messing with menses. Anyone else try avoiding soy? I have heard/read in quite a few places that fermented soy doesn't carry those same risks- like tempeh, soy sauce, and miso...(Is miso on the list to eat?) So putting tofu on my list of options doesn't make me really comfortable. I'll probably have it one time. For protein, I normally eat a lot of beans, (as well as cheese and nuts), but I see in the REAL whole30, beans are not on the list of acceptable food. I know it is an exception for vegetarians, but I want to make sure I get the most out of these thirty days. Should I add beans but try to limit them? Or just not worry about it? What have you done? I do eat eggs, but three meals a day of eggs for thirty days...it just won't cut it. And of course, I'll have kefir and full fat yogurt, but how often? I am kind of rambling in this post...Here are the main points!! 1. Where do you get grainless Tempeh? 2.Anyone else try to avoid soy like edamame and tofu? How do you reconcile this with the Whole30 diet? 2a. Is Miso ok to eat? 3. How acceptable are beans, really? 4. If you've done this before, how did you add variety and balance and get the most out of your Whole30? 5. Even if YOU haven't done the vegetarian version, but you're really familiar with the program, what is the preferential order of the sources of protein on the vegetarian version that I should strive for to make it most like a normal Whole30? Thanks!
