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Couple of items: pickles, V8

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As the title says, I have a question about 2 items.

First one: I saw someone recommend using unsweet pickle relish or dill relish in a recipe. The only relish and pickles I can find that don't have sugar or a long list of preservatives are the Clausen ones and they do have sodium benzoate and polysorbate 80. I am suspecting those are a no-no on Whole30?

Second one is V8. I know that we're encouraged not to rely on juices and that's fine. I usually have a small snack sized can of spicy V8 in the afternoons. I don't use it as a veggie substitute, just a nice cold spicy snack that's portable. The can I have says all natural vegetable juices and spices (and lists them) and potassium chloride. Does that kill my V8? If so I can just spice up some regular plain tomato juice and deal.

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Regarding the pickles... The Whole30 rules only list 3 additives/preservatives to avoid - carageenan, MSG or sulfites. That means the Clausen's are not ruled out, although better pickles exist. Until cucumbers came into season and I began making my own, I was buying Bubbies brand pickles and sauerkraut. They're really good.

The problem with the V8 is not so much the ingredients as that it is processed and a juice. During your Whole30, we want you to adjust to eating whole foods. And we do not encourage drinking your meals or snacks.

Note: I wrote this before the boss posted her note saying the V8 was okay, but my opinion remains the same... V8 is not a good choice.

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Tom I get your perspective, but I'm gonig to go ahead and include V8 in my plan. I choose to do so for a few reasons: juices are not an issue for me; I don't have the mindset of drinking meal replacements; I don't drink them (as many people do) because I hate veggies and this is the only way for me to get in my veggie fix; and it's not an everyday thing for me.

Honestly if the commercial V8 was out due to preservatives, I'd probably just make my own in the juicer and continue to enjoy it. I just enjoy tomato juice and the spiciness of the V8. :)

Thanks for the rec on the pickle brands. I see that you're nearby, so I will look for them in my Publix or Kroger after I finish the jar of Claussen's that I have.

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This blog has a good simple pickle recipe from the nourishing traditions book by Sally Fallon. I am trying that recipe today and the pickles aren't ready yet so I will repost in a few days and let you know how it went.

http://www.nourishingdays.com/2009/07/the-benefits-of-fermented-food-lacto-fermented-vegetables/

I have enjoyed making my own fermented veggies from my abundant farm share. It is a great way to preserve fresh veggies and you get a probiotics boost! It helped me a lot with constipation issues I was having.

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Would it be okay to drink V8 with meals as a replacement for water on occasion? I personally do not care for tea or coffee and normally drink water but have used V8 when I wanted something besides water.

I haven't started Whole30 yet, my husband and I decided we have way too many events and family reunions to attend between now and labor day, we have chosen to start on Sept 10th and we're already prepping our pantry and freezer with compliant foods, especially when we find quality meats on sale. :D We can't wait to start our new life!

Thanks!

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Sharon -

As long as you're eating your veggies in the right quantity and drinking plenty of water throughout your day, I don't see anything inherently wrong with it. Make sure you're not using V8 as a veggie or meal replacement, and that you prioritize actual water over other drinks, then enjoy your V8.

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I have found Bubbies at Raley's Markets, so if anyone is near a Raley's, Bel Air or Nob Hill market I would take a peek in the refrigerated sections of the market!

 

I don't care to drink V8 as a beverage anymore due to the sodium, but I DO add it to soups that I make as part of the liquid. 

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