hoping for advice

[lmcbrien]

Hello all,

 

Yesterday I was on Day 3 of Whole 30 - all was going well. I went to the store and saw ghee for the first time and decided to try some as I was making Nom Nom Paleo's Thai Coconut Curry for dinner. I used the tablespoon of ghee and dinner came out great.

 

Later, reading the Whole 30 Made Simple again (as still don't have It Starts With Food and Well Fed, darn Canadian Postal service), I noted the * beside ghee, indicating that it "must" be pastured and organic. Oops, don't think mine is - the fact that it didn't say it probably means it isn't.

 

So, my conundrum: do I begin again, or extend my 30 to a 33.....

 

Thanks in advance if anyone has words of wisdom!

 

[kaiser179]

In my opinion, it is absolutely fine if the ghee isn't organic or from pastured cows!  Part of the W30 goal is to eat organic/grass fed whenever possible; however as long as you stick to compliant ingredients, you are fine.  No need to add on days unless you want to.  I would personally keep using that jar of ghee and just find a better source once it is gone.  Good luck on your W30!

[PamH]

Use the ghee your bought!  Consider yourself to be on Day Four in my opinion.

 

If you decide you like it, you can order ghee from many on line vendors if it pasture raised isn't available to you.  I get mine (in bulk) from here:

 

http://www.pureindianfoods.com/

 

We make choices with how to deal with the compliant foods.  Some of us are organic and grass fed advocates where other either don't really care or cannot afford it/access it.  Both are equally successful in completing the Whole30 and making some profound habit changes. The casein is removed in the ghee you have, so you are not eating the dairy proteins that W30 is concerned about avoiding.  That is true whether or not the ghee is pasture or not.

[Tom Denham]

You are fine. Don't restart. It is not even a consideration. The official guidelines are the only criteria you need satisfy to do a Whole30 correctly - http://forum.whole9life.com/topic/5-the-official-whole30%C2%AE-program/ - and they don't say a word about pastured or organic.

 

What is this Whole 30 Made Simple you are talking about? Sounds like it is making things too complicated.

[lmcbrien]

Thanks to all for the support, and especially for the confirmation I don't need to begin all over again !!

 

Tom, the Whole 30 Made Simple was a guide I paid for and downloaded here from the website as didn't have the other reference materials yet:  http://whole9life.com/success-guide/ (about half way down page for $39)

 

Onwards and upwards to Day 4!

[GFChris]

The line lmcbrien is referring to is on p. 173 of It Starts with Food. In a paragraph labeled Cooking Fat, it says, "Make sure you're buying or rendering animal fats only from 100 percent grass-fed, pastured, organic sources to ensure that the rest of your food is cooked in the "cleanest" fat possible." 

So ghee made from butter that's not organic, grass-fed or pastured is ok?  We can ignore this 'rule'?

[Tom Denham]

Organic and grass fed is better food, but not required during a Whole30. Similarly, canola oil is a bad choice of cooking oil, but you can use canola oil during a Whole30. The basic guidelines are designed to be achievable with reasonable effort. If the guidelines demanded the best possible choice at every point, no one who ate a meal in a restaurant could complete a Whole30. Anyone who eats a diet of meat and veggies and avoids grains, sugar, dairy, legumes, alcohol, etc., will improve their health even if the meat and veggies come from WalMart or Kroeger.

[Guest]

For the record, I bought/ate hardly any organic or pastured anything during any of my whole30's and I rocked the hell out of all of them!  The only organic stuff I could ever find was veggies from my own garden and the occasional eggs from a neighbor's chicken   Ordering it online was never an option for me because of budget issues.  I did the best I could with what I had available to me and I did great!  Tom said it best "Anyone who eats a diet of meat and veggies and avoids grains, sugar, dairy, legumes, alcohol, etc., will improve their health even if the meat and veggies come from WalMart or Kroeger."  so very true!