bmissen Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Hi everyone, PCOS was a contributing factor for me deciding to partake in the Whole30. So far, my mods have improved, I'm sleeping better, my snoring has stopped, and I have lost the bloat. I know this is not about weight loss, but I do have a massive amount to lose, so have been weighing to see if anything changes. Not a lot has changed. I'm wondering, for those with PCOS, did you still need to stick to LowGi fruit n veg whilst on this program. I have been enjoying sweet potato (which is low/medium gi?), but have been loving bananas, melons, pineapple and grapes whilst Whole30-ing. I'm wondering if this is hindering me. I'm only having 1 serve of fruit per day, and the sugar dragon seems to be staying away. Is anyone's able to shed light on my theory? Belinda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted September 12, 2013 Moderators Share Posted September 12, 2013 Weighing yourself makes weight loss slower. I know it sounds crazy, but our experience around here is that people who focus on weight loss by weighing and measuring slow weight loss. So if you really want to lose weight, get rid of your scale. Your question about what you should be eating is coming from your disappointment about the number on your scale. That is another reason we tell you not to weigh yourself during a Whole30. Letting a scale number tell you what you can or should eat is part of the broken system that the Whole30 is supposed to replace. Your menu should not vary according to the scale. A food is either good for you or it is not. One serving of fruit per day is fine. Maybe others with experience with PCOS can add something, but I felt a need to make a comment from experience with the Whole30 itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaine Ross Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I always tell this story: On my first Whole30, my weight did not change but I did a hydrostatic bodyfat test and had lost 3 pounds of fat and gained 3 pounds of muscle. That's net zero weight loss, but my body was completely different. And it wasn't from spending hours in the gym: I only trained 9 moderate times in those 30 days. If you have a lot to lose, the weight WILL come off but the initial body comp changes won't be reflected on the scale just yet. Please, just trust the program. A scale is a terrible measure of progress - especially initially! You can do this. Don't overthink it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jent103 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I do have PCOS, and while I'm still relatively new to the Paleo/Whole30 world, I can tell you that my first Whole30 (finished the last week of August) sounds very similar to yours. I feel better, my moods are more stable, and I plan to generally keep eating this way. But my measurements were more or less the same (I got rid of my scale awhile back), and I'm wearing the same clothes. I have had several people tell me this week - two weeks after my official Whole30 was over - that I look like I've lost weight, but I think so far it's mainly in my face! All that to say, losing weight is rarely easy with PCOS (I have the often-related insulin resistance as well), and I'm trying to manage my expectations and realize that even Whole30 is not going to make me lose X pounds in a month. I'm sticking with this for awhile. If I haven't seen any more outward "results" in a few months, then I might start to tweak things, but for now I know that my body just needs to get its hormones straightened out before I start to get frustrated. I can tell that my skin is better; between that and my moods/energy, that tells me that something is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmissen Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 Hi jent103, I also have the insulin resistance, hence the question about glycemic index. We're always taught/told that we need to stick to low gi foods and fruits, hence the question. Are the high gi foods still "bad" for us? My overriding sense would be yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jent103 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 To be honest, I've never gotten nutritional counseling from a doctor (which is a whole other issue!), so I'm not 100% sure. I've been on metformin for 13 years, and my blood sugar levels are totally normal with that, so I think every practitioner I've seen has said "okay, controlled, yay!" and not worried about it. I'd be curious to hear what others have to say. When I read It Starts With Food, the whole insulin chapter seemed to be speaking straight to me - it dealt a lot with insulin resistance. So it honestly never occurred to me to restrict the plan even further. I've had 1-2 fruits a day and probably 2-3 sweet potatoes a week, and I think that's about it in terms of potentially high-glycemic foods. If you can stick to low-GI foods and still have energy, that couldn't hurt, but if your diet was anything like mine before (lots of whole grains), this is already drastically different in terms of glycemic load. So I haven't worried too much about it. I don't know that that's the best approach, but I guess I'll find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Weighing yourself makes weight loss slower. I know it sounds crazy, but our experience around here is that people who focus on weight loss by weighing and measuring slow weight loss. So if you really want to lose weight, get rid of your scale. Your question about what you should be eating is coming from your disappointment about the number on your scale. That is another reason we tell you not to weigh yourself during a Whole30. Letting a scale number tell you what you can or should eat is part of the broken system that the Whole30 is supposed to replace. Your menu should not vary according to the scale. A food is either good for you or it is not. One serving of fruit per day is fine. Maybe others with experience with PCOS can add something, but I felt a need to make a comment from experience with the Whole30 itself. Tom Denham Whole9 Moderator/First Whole30 May 2010 Moderators 5535 posts LocationAlpharetta, Georgia, USA Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:33 AM Thank you for asking!Most people lose weight during a Whole30. Eating only healthy foods tends to make that happen. However, the Whole30 is not a weight loss program, it is a health improvement program. It really works best if you focus on trying to improve your health and let the weight take care of itself. Therefore, it takes some trust on your part that this program is good for you and will yield good results. Unfortunately, if you focus on weight loss, you can mess up your Whole30 and either slow weight loss or hurt your health. The key to this program is eating as much as is recommended in the meal template. If you try to speed weight loss by eating less food or less fat, it interferes with your hormones achieving a normal, healthy balance and often backfires. Here is a link to the meal template... http://whole9life.co...ng-Template.pdfDo not count points, track calories, or weigh your food. The replacement for that behavior is following the meal template and paying attention to your feelings. If you try to do both, you will fail at following the meal template and paying attention to your feelings. They may not seem your best choice now, but they really are what works for a lifetime of health and happiness. I lost weight with this program starting in May of 2010. I lost 2 pounds per month for 15 months in a row. I ate lots of food and was never hungry. I made the mistake of trying to speed the process by skipping some meals. Back in 2010, stepping on a scale was not forbidden. What I discovered is that I sometimes gained weight on days I skipped meals. I don't understand why. I also tried to speed weight loss by exercising more than usual. I would add a 5K run to my ordinary workout. That did not make me lose weight faster either. Finally after a few months, I settled down and just followed the program. I kept losing weight until I was down 30 pounds. I went from 215 to 185. 185 was my goal weight. I wondered if I would keep losing weight when I reached it. Curiously enough, I got down to 184 one day, but never lost more. I kept eating exactly the same, but stopped losing weight. Today, I weigh 195, but I am much more muscular than I was before. I have not had my body fat measured, but I suspect I remain as lean as ever, but when I started lifting heavy weights, my chest, arms, and legs got bigger. This program really works if you will let it. Just give it time. Callan likes this Like This Do you know the forum rules? Review them at http://forum.whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 "The key to this program is eating as much as is recommended in the meal template. If you try to speed weight loss by eating less food or less fat, it interferes with your hormones achieving a normal, healthy balance and often backfires. Here is a link to the meal template...http://whole9life.co...ng-Template.pdfDo not count points, track calories, or weigh your food. The replacement for that behavior is following the meal template and paying attention to your feelings. If you try to do both, you will fail at following the meal template and paying attention to your feelings. They may not seem your best choice now, but they really are what works for a lifetime of health and happiness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 You can't count points or calories and follow this program. Weighing yourself makes weight loss slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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