miniannotti Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Today is day 10 of my W30 and the good news is that I'm still here. Is it too soon to hope that the cravings for sugar, specifically Chocolate, will have gone away? I still think about it a lot, and it's all over the office where I work and it takes every ounce of my willpower to not have any. I haven't, btw. Interestingly, I also still crave diet Coke. In fact, that's the thing I miss the most. I'm wiped out, too. I sometimes Have to take a power nap when I get home. I'm waiting to get the energy that people talk of....and to not dread the next 20 days. I usually feel better after a nap & dinner. Thoughts? In some ways I feel like I'm "white knuckling"this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynne Jones Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 It's Day 10 for me, too! I'm thinking back to my first W30 and wondering why it's so much easier this time, and the reason is that I know it works. I have never felt better than I did the final two weeks or so of my W30! So this time around, I have a level of motivation based on my experience, rather than other people's experience. Sugar is a BEAST. It acts like a drug in my body, and maybe yours, too. If that's the case for you, it is going to take time to heal. Be patient, nap if you need to, and I promise you, if you stick with it you will be amazed. I was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connie_m Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I agree. This is my first time doing a Whole30, but I've eliminated sugar for months on end before and I know full well that I'll hit a point where I don't miss it. And therefore it's way easier once you've had that experience. The first time? The timeline varies, but it's is SO WORTH IT to not feel like you're being controlled by sugar cravings. Stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amberino21 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 10 days is not very long in the scheme of things, and it generally takes longer for cravings to diminish. Cravings specifically for chocolate can indicate low magnesium though... Tiger blood doesn't usually appear for a few more days - hang in there! Energy and cravings can be linked to food - perhaps a few days of food log might give us some idea if you're on the right track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniannotti Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Energy and cravings can be linked to food - perhaps a few days of food log might give us some idea if you're on the right track? Average day: Coffee with my coconut milk "creamer" Uncured bacon - 2-4 strips pinch of nuts (like one mouthful) Leftover meat & broccoli or salad 1/2 apple or berries or nothing (around 3-4 pm...just to get me through) dinner is meat & green veg, sometimes a 1/2 sweet potato (roasted with coconut oil or baked with ghee) My fats are the coconut milk, ghee, coconut oil for cooking. On the w/e's I'm more likely to have eggs in the AM. Sometimes if I'm desperate and have to work late, I'll have eggs for a quick dinner too. On a couple of occasions, at night, I've had a pinch of nuts and a pinch of raisins because I really want something sweet. I know it's dangerous so it's not an everyday thing. Thoughts?? Sometimes I do think I need to eat more....and other times I'm stuffed and feel fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amberino21 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 You aren't eating enough!!! Do you have a copy of the meal template? http://whole9life.com/book/ISWF-Meal-Planning-Template.pdf You don't have a proper meal one - where's the protein and vegies?!? Meal 2 or 3 has no fat included. Not sticking to the template will limit your energy and likelihood of feeling anything close to tiger blood. Including starchy carbs will also help your energy levels. If you need to snack, it should be a mini meal of protein fat and vegies, not just fruit. If you eat meals according to the template, you shouldn't need anything to "get you through" though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniannotti Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 OK, thanks for that. The thought of veggies at breakfast makes me sick. Blech! I'm a very fussy eater so I don't touch mushrooms, tomatoes, onions - - stuff that people usually add to eggs. But I'll do something. I guess I can have a salad! So this might help energy but I don't see my chocolate/sweets cravings leaving any time soon ....or ever. I wish they would! I literally had to give myself a talking to this AM before I landed at work, because I was to be the first one in and the Hershey Miniatures are abundant! It was all I could think about! ...no, I didn't. But I was thinking about it! Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnymama Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Hi..just wanted to lend support and say hang in there! Some moments will be rougher than others but it will take time and there is no way around that. Also listen to Amber The times I am most tempted to put junk in my body are always when I haven't eaten enough. You will be amazed if you give this 100% effort/compliance. Hugs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physibeth Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Nourishing your body well will help with the cravings. I know they don't seem related but they are. Your body craves sugar because it is used to quick energy. As far as veggies for breakfast this took a while for me to get used to as well. I was a self professed vegetable hater too but I kept making myself try new things and as your body adjusts back to food that tastes like food you will find you like things more. That said I usually have sweet potato or greens as my morning breakfast veggie. I like to saute kale and then scramble eggs into it. Or you can make egg muffins or a firtata or a crustless quiche for the mornings you don't have time to make them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom2A&M Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I found I could blend a few handfuls of spinach with the raw eggs before I scramble them=greens eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connie_m Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Try making like sweet potato hash - I just fry up a pound or so of grass fed ground beef, a big sweet potato diced up, diced onions and green peppers (or spinach is what's in the actual recipe) in ghee or coconut oil and you can make a big batch and then reheat a portion for breakfast. Goes really well with a fried egg on top. And it's super fast to reheat (and it's even good cold). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 OK, thanks for that. The thought of veggies at breakfast makes me sick. Blech! I'm a very fussy eater so I don't touch mushrooms, tomatoes, onions - - stuff that people usually add to eggs. But I'll do something. I guess I can have a salad! So this might help energy but I don't see my chocolate/sweets cravings leaving any time soon ....or ever. I wish they would! I literally had to give myself a talking to this AM before I landed at work, because I was to be the first one in and the Hershey Miniatures are abundant! It was all I could think about! ...no, I didn't. But I was thinking about it! Ugh! Is your bacon compliant? (i.e., no sugar or other nasties) Another way to get veggies in at breakfast is a homemade soup. Many options out there: squash, cauliflower, carrot are among the posssibilities. Either add your 1-2 palms of protein to the soup or have it on the side. Eating the proper portions per the template and carb dense veggies will go a long way to helping you. The latter include sweet potato, acorn squash, butternut squash, beets, carrots, jicama, parsnips and rutabaga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillian Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The only way my cravings for sweets diminish is by eating 3 square meals each day - with plenty of protein, fat and starchy veg at each meal. As soon as I have a handful of berries and some nuts for a "quick lunch" - the cravings return and my energy levels get wobbly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniannotti Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Nourishing your body well will help with the cravings. I know they don't seem related but they are. Your body craves sugar because it is used to quick energy. As far as veggies for breakfast this took a while for me to get used to as well. I was a self professed vegetable hater too but I kept making myself try new things and as your body adjusts back to food that tastes like food you will find you like things more. That said I usually have sweet potato or greens as my morning breakfast veggie. I like to saute kale and then scramble eggs into it. Or you can make egg muffins or a firtata or a crustless quiche for the mornings you don't have time to make them. Actually, my body is not used to quick energy! Prior to this body-hacking experiment, I was a ketogenic dieter. Thus, (coffee), fat and bacon & no veggies looks to me like a "complete meal". It's now day 11 and I've had a total of 3 sweet potatoes and a couple carrots. Hard for me to think that the starchy carbs won't lead to weight gain but since, technically, my fat is lower, my protein higher, maybe the carbs won't be so bad. Having less fat is what's giving me lower energy, IMO. So I guess I should just have a sweet potato or a beet and see what happens. Also to Amberino, my meals did have fat in my sample menu, I just didn't list them out. Fat is not a problem! And my bacon is compliant. Thanks for the tips and meal ideas. For history, I am 47. In my 30's I was about 255# and lived on sugar when I wasn't on weight watchers. I'd totally spend all my points on M&M's. Around 1998, I lost almost 100# basically by just cutting down! but let's call it starvation. I hung out at that weight for 6 years then inched my way back up to 200#. I started another diet at that point, not wanting to totally undo myself, and eventually found low-carb and then that morphed into Primal (I've always had dairy until this W30). I'm now probably 20# from where I can comfortably hang out at my age. So, low carb is not a problem. Running on ketones is not a problem. Convincing myself that a carrot/beet/sweet potato is not going to kill me is! I'm not sure what is worse, the physical damage done over the years, or the psychological implications. When it's all said and done, IF I find I am still ok with dairy, Primal is probably where I'll "live"- on the LC side..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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