HawaiianGal Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hi there, I'm on Day 27, and wishing I had better news. One of the reasons I did this was to see if I could find a solution for the inflammation that's going on in my body. Hip, back, elbows, thumbs, and now one knee are painful to use. I get about 5 hours of solid sleep before my back pain keeps me awake for the rest of the night. i have been compliant. I have hypothyroidism (medicated) with chronic adrenal fatigue. Tested for RA and don't have it. I'm not celiac either. Nothing "official" is showing up in my blood work. I was hoping to slim down a bit, and all my clothes fit just the same. Breakfast - 2 eggs and meat (beef or bacon) with sauteed mixed veggies (about 1 cup by the time its cooked) piece of fruit Lunch - meat and veggies with olive oil and balsamic vinegar or home made mayo Afternoon snack - fruit and macadamia nuts Dinner - meat and veggie with winter squash or sweet potato I throw what I eat into perfectdiettracker so that I have a record of what I ate when. I'm averaging about 1300 calories a day. I could ditch the afternoon fruit and add a fourth meal, would that really make a difference though? Warning, TMI ahead! My bowel movements have changed, and often smell foul. They also float and I get that oil slick as well. This is new for me. I started taking digestive enzymes a few days ago and haven't noticed a difference yet. Exercise is difficult with my knee and hip acting up, that's new this past few months. Before that, my back pain made walking not so much fun... Stairs or even slight inclines are difficult to climb. Gosh, I sound like a wreck don't I? Doctors have been no help, so I'm trying to figure this out on my own. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. I stopped caffeine, wheat, soy, sugar, dairy, rice, grains... and I had high hopes. Also haven't noticed a difference with nitrates or nightshades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WunderHase Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will pitch in, but I do have one question: do you eat any fatty fish or get fish oil in a liquid or capsule form? Omega-3's are anti-inflammatory, and the best source would be fish oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amberino21 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'm sorry you're still in pain - it must be frustrating when dr's don't come up with anything. In terms of your food, I think you may be under eating...if you're needing to snack it suggests your meals aren't big enough. If you do need to snack you should have a mini meal of protein, fat and vegies instead of fruit and nuts. With your breakfast, bacon is classed as a fat. If you have bacon you'd be low in protein as a serve of eggs is at least 3 for most people. if you have beef you'd likely be low in fat. You should be aiming for 2-3 cups of vegies with every meal. Having a more substantial breakfast will keep you more satisfied through out the day. You mention no fat with dinner - every meal needs fat! I think more vegies may help your BM issue, as well as staying hydrated. Have you tried eliminating eggs and nuts? Some people suggest that these cause them issues with digestion and inflammation, along with nightshades. It could be another thing to consider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmary Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Amber has some good suggestions. I know you say you "didn't notice a difference with nightshades" BUT, just like wheat and dairy, it takes a longer elimination then reintroduction before you can really know. I would suggest trying the AutoImmune Protocol (so, whole30 but also eliminating nuts, seeds, nightshades, eggs) for 30 days. Even if it doesn't uncover a solution to your pain, 30 more days eating healthy is a great thing, right? ps- please ditch the calorie counter. If you are hungry, increase your meals until you are not, but don't allow a number that means very little to dictate whether you eat a fourth meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiianGal Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thank you for your replies! I do supplement, I take krill oil every morning, and Vit D3 every night. More fat. The olive oil mayonnaise really doesn't work for me yet, the olive oil taste is too strong. Macnut oil would be out, I suppose I could go back to canola oil to make mayo for now. I do eat olives, both green and black. Thank heavens avocados will be in season soon. I also eat a LOT of coconut and coconut full fat milk. I try to keep a crock pot-cooked pork butt in the fridge most of the time. That has a LOT of fat and I often eat it for any meal. I need to do research to find more fat alternatives. I think what I'll do is re-introduce dairy at the end of my first 30 to see if butter is okay. If it is, then I'll do an AI protocol and drop eggs, nuts, and nightshades. (So no mayo.) I get in about 8K - 11K steps during the course of my usual day. I have a coffee and macadamia nut company (and chocolate) in Hawaii. No, I haven't had ANY chocolate for a month, or coffee. Of the two, I miss the coffee more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmary Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thank you for your replies! I do supplement, I take krill oil every morning, and Vit D3 every night. More fat. The olive oil mayonnaise really doesn't work for me yet, the olive oil taste is too strong. Macnut oil would be out, I suppose I could go back to canola oil to make mayo for now. I'm confused by this. Canola oil is a horrible choice for mayo (or anything), macadamia nut oil is a great choice. Most people around here use the "light-tasting" olive oil, simply because macadamia nut and avocado oil are kind of spendy. If you've got either of those, go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiianGal Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 I figured I couldn't use Macadamia nut oil if I am avoiding nuts. The light-tasting olive oil, I can use it for salad dressing, the taste it leaves in my mouth as mayonnaise is just horrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmary Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 If you are on the AI protocol, you can't have mayo anyway, because of the eggs--so I thought we were talking about during a regular whole30. Sorry for the confusion. No need to eat stuff that doesn't taste good to you. Some people make a "mayo-like" spread with coconut milk and others just sub avocado where they would put mayo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WunderHase Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Oh, hey! I've seen some avocado mayo recipes and people were all saying how great it tastes. Then you wouldn't have to use the eggs! I haven't tried it myself yet, but it sounds tempting. I know that olive oil tastes way too bitter in a regular mayo (garlic can cover it a bit, but then you'll smell like garlic), but the avocado and spices might help in making it smoother. Or, use avocado oil instead! Here's one recipe: http://www.choosingraw.com/simple-raw-vegan-avocado-mayonnaise/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiianGal Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 I can't wait to try the avocado mayo! Yum!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Oh, hey! I've seen some avocado mayo recipes and people were all saying how great it tastes. Then you wouldn't have to use the eggs! I haven't tried it myself yet, but it sounds tempting. I know that olive oil tastes way too bitter in a regular mayo (garlic can cover it a bit, but then you'll smell like garlic), but the avocado and spices might help in making it smoother. Or, use avocado oil instead! Here's one recipe: http://www.choosingraw.com/simple-raw-vegan-avocado-mayonnaise/ It's funny how folks have different palates - what tastes good to some is yucky for others. I've made a number of batches of paleo mayo since doing my Whole30 this summer. For me, non extra virgin olive oil works best (have done Filippo Berio and Bertolli Extra Light) - I don't taste any olive at all in my mayo. I tried a batch once with 1/4 c avocado oil and 1 c olive oil (vs 1 1/4 c olive oil), and the avocado flavor was way too intense for me. Since then, I only use all olive oil. Whatever works for your taste buds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiianGal Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Today starts the second 30 days, and I'm doing the AI protocol. It took me about 4 days for my inner child to stop stamping her foot. My birthday is on the 5th, and I wanted to eat whatever I wanted on that day. I'm going to modify it to be compliant. I'll either have a blowout meal 30 days from now, or just keep putting it off in the future until I have answers. I plan on adding yoga as I figure it out on my own. My flexibility is way down and I think this will help. My brother swears by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtandi Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 mayo - if you are using regular olive oil it's nasty. you need to find the light TASTING olive oil (not light olive oil. light tasting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiianGal Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiianGal Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Its now Day 10 of the AI protocol (after the initial whole 30). I got some blood work back recently and wanted to share it with you guys. My CRP is only 1.0 on a scale of 1 - 10, and sedimentation rate is 5 on a scale of 0 - 30. I'm thinking what was an autoimmune issue is probably something else since inflammation markers are so low. I plan on finishing out a second 30 days anyway, I just don't know if the AI protocol is all that helpful for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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