A little honey. Whoa. Really?

[MMHam]

I've just read entries asking about immediate and intense reactions to reintroducing food, so I feel somewhat foolish posting my own. I know the answer. I think. But, I'm too floored and disappointed to believe. I've reintroduced cream in coffee just fine. This morning, I added honey in the form of almond-flour biscuits made last night. Two minutes after eating three bites of biscuit (there was 3 tbs honey in recipe), my head spun. Sugar buzz? It was not pleasant. Now, I feel foggy, sluggish. Really? Off that little? 

 

Also, I ended Whole30 7 days ago and have felt like I had allergies--foggy head, running nose. along with cream, I added glass of wine. I assumed the allergies was the season changing to fall. I am being naive? THANKS! 

[leahcarn]

One way to tell would be to go back to whole30 style eating for a bit to see if your symptoms clear up. I've heard a few people report allergy style symptoms to dairy unfortunately

[praxisproject]

That could be dairy, honey or wine. It doesn't sound like seasonal allergies.

 

For me, dairy symptoms are quite delayed, sometimes a full week after eating it, it seems to make my gut more permeable.

Lay off the dairy for a week or so before re-trying it, it takes a while to clear your system.

 

Honey could be FODMAPs (honey has fructose). This is an easy one to retest, go easy, if it's FODMAPs it might give you a very sore stomach.

Wine can have sulfites, "LTP" and tannins. If it was red, you may not get the same reaction with white (no LTP - from the skin of the grape).

[Physibeth]

Some great advice already. One other suggestion is to try honey in a more Whole30 way...add it to an otherwise compliant meal versus baking it into almond flour biscuits. I know I personally need to be careful about baking with almond flour because it is a lot of concentrated almonds (something we advice limiting remember) and can cause stomach distress for me...I wouldn't be surprised if it added to the symptoms you experienced.

[periwinkle]

I have had the same sort of experience with honey. Mine was that it made me go hypo glycemic within about 30 minutes. Only to have people argue "that's not possible, honey is a natural sweeter" lol. Sugar is sugar.

[MeadowLily]

I have had the same sort of experience with honey. Mine was that it made me go hypo glycemic within about 30 minutes. Only to have people argue "that's not possible, honey is a natural sweeter" lol. Sugar is sugar.

Absolutely, Periwinkle.   If you're trying to move out of insulin/leptin resistance....the last thing you need to reintroduce is sugars.

 

 

 

 Posted by TravelPhotoWriter on 16 June 2014 - 07:48 PM

I'm a Type 1 Diabetic for 31 years. For EVERYONE, bread/starches, lactose (dairy sugars), white potatoes, corn, etc increases blood sugar. The only items that keep my glucose even-keeled are Proteins (meat), low-starch veggies (the ones approved on W30), healthy fats, and sparing low-sugar fruits (like berries, NOT like mangos or bananas).  No amount of avoiding these items temporarily will have them break down any differently when they are consumed.  If you want great #s to continue, your great habits need to continue.

 

Personally, I "triage" things that up my glucose. Example: mashed potatoes are absolutely NOT worth it to me, so I don't eat them, EVER. A fantastic small dish of gelato while walking the streets of Italy, YES PLEASE!  & I just take a little extra insulin to compensate for the spike from sugar and milk. I never drink sweet beverages (lemonade other than made with stevia, regular soda, glasses of juice, "sport drinks," etc), as none of them are "worth it" to me. 

 

The book It Starts With Food (a.k.a. ISWF) goes into some pretty eye-opening description of what dairy does to blood sugar! Yikes, I didn't know when I was slamming quarts of it the years before my diagnosis....

 

[MeadowLily]

Eating More Frequently to Balance Blood Sugar Levels and Reduce Cravings

For those who are fighting insulin resistance....

One argument I see a lot is that people should eat often to balance blood sugar levels.

Eating big meals is thought to lead to rapid rises and falls in blood sugar, while eating smaller and more frequent meals should stabilize blood sugar levels throughout the day.

 

This, however, is not supported by science.

Studies show that people who eat fewer, larger meals have lower blood glucose levels on average. 

They may have bigger “spikes” in blood sugar but overall their levels are much lower. This is especially important for people with blood sugar issues, because elevated blood sugars can cause all sorts of problems.

Less frequent eating has also been shown to improve satiety and reduce hunger compared to more frequent meals .   

 

I only eat 3 meals aday with no snacks.   My numbers continue to improve.  If you're coming from a sedentary lifestyle  ....sitting throughout the day and evening, eating 5 or 6 times aday - try 3 meals without snacks.

 

It is the total amount of food consumed that determines the amount of energy expended during digestion.

Eating 3 meals of 800 calories will cause the same thermic effect as eating 6 meals of 400 calories. There is literally no difference.

Multiple studies have compared eating many smaller vs. fewer larger meals and concluded that there is no significant effect on either metabolic rate or total amount of fat lost.

Eating more often...it doesn’t raise metabolism and it doesn’t improve blood glucose control. If anything, fewer 3 meals is healthier for blood glucose and health benefits.

1. When hungry, eat.

2. When full, stop.

3. Repeat indefinitely.

[kirkor]

Studies show that people who eat fewer, larger meals have lower blood glucose levels on average (4).

They may have bigger “spikes” in blood sugar but overall their levels are much lower. This is especially important for people with blood sugar issues, because elevated blood sugars can cause all sorts of problems.

Less frequent eating has also been shown to improve satiety and reduce hunger compared to more frequent meals 

That sounds like intermittent fasting! 

 

[MeadowLily]

That sounds like intermittent fasting! 

 

You mean like waiting   X amount of hours between meals and exercising in the fasted state....no meals before running or workouts?  I don't run so I have not added any pre/post meals for hiking.   As of today,  I've taken 9 inches off of my mid-section.....best thing I could possibly do to leave insulin resistance in the dirt.  That's my plan. 

[leahcarn]

That sounds like intermittent fasting! 

 

Bearing in mind the kind of background we are looking at here, it could just be three square meals a day. 

I'm impressed, original hyperlink still works after being copied and pasted. The study was comparing 3 and 6 meals a day. 

 

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1751499110000545

[MeadowLily]

That sounds like intermittent fasting! 

 

Exercising in the fasted state for those fighting insulin resistance...no pre exercise meal.

 

The fasted exercise state produces two significant effects:

 

1.  "Improved insulin sensitivity. Put very simply, the body releases insulin (a hormone) when we eat to help us absorb the nutrients from our food. The hormone then takes the sugars out of our bloodstream and directs them to the liver, muscles, and fat cells to be used as energy later on. The trouble is that eating too much and too often can make us more resistant to insulin’s effects, and while poor insulin sensitivity makes it harder to lose body fat  -  Eating less frequently  is one way to help remedy the issue, because it results in the body releasing insulin less often, so we become more sensitive to it—and that makes it easier to lose fat, improves blood flow to muscles, and even curbs the impact of an unhealthy diet ."

 Exercising on an empty stomach has been shown to be especially great for fat loss, and it’s even been shown that people who train become progressively better at burning fat at higher levels of intensity (possibly because of an increase in fat-oxidizing enzymes) .

" Many studies have found that training in a fasted exercise state is a terrific way to build lean mass and boost insulin sensitivity, not just because of the hormonal responses, but also because it makes the body absorb the post-workout meal more efficiently."

This works for me.   I eat after... Is this what you meant, Kirkor?

[Gina56]

I've just read entries asking about immediate and intense reactions to reintroducing food, so I feel somewhat foolish posting my own. I know the answer. I think. But, I'm too floored and disappointed to believe. I've reintroduced cream in coffee just fine. This morning, I added honey in the form of almond-flour biscuits made last night. Two minutes after eating three bites of biscuit (there was 3 tbs honey in recipe), my head spun. Sugar buzz? It was not pleasant. Now, I feel foggy, sluggish. Really? Off that little? 

 

Also, I ended Whole30 7 days ago and have felt like I had allergies--foggy head, running nose. along with cream, I added glass of wine. I assumed the allergies was the season changing to fall. I am being naive? THANKS! 

 

Okay I am really new to this (day 24) but is it possible the almond flour contributed to the bad feelings?

[Physibeth]

 

I've just read entries asking about immediate and intense reactions to reintroducing food, so I feel somewhat foolish posting my own. I know the answer. I think. But, I'm too floored and disappointed to believe. I've reintroduced cream in coffee just fine. This morning, I added honey in the form of almond-flour biscuits made last night. Two minutes after eating three bites of biscuit (there was 3 tbs honey in recipe), my head spun. Sugar buzz? It was not pleasant. Now, I feel foggy, sluggish. Really? Off that little? 

 

Also, I ended Whole30 7 days ago and have felt like I had allergies--foggy head, running nose. along with cream, I added glass of wine. I assumed the allergies was the season changing to fall. I am being naive? THANKS! 

 

Okay I am really new to this (day 24) but is it possible the almond flour contributed to the bad feelings?

 

 

I feel off when I eat too many almond flour based baked things. I would save these types of things until you are done with reintroductions. Try and keep the things you're introducing as close to how you were eating on Whole30 as possible so it is easier to tell. However, what you are describing does sound more like sugar buzz to me. I would wait until you are feeling good again and try something that will give you a better answer.

 

To clarify: the foggy head, running nose - that was before or after you introduced the cream? Stuffiness is a common reaction to dairy.