carlaarend Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Sorry for posting it, I am quite sure it is compliant, but as I never heard about it before and I couldn't find searching, I decided to ask. Is Coconut Jam compliant? I'm on day 17 an currently using coconut oil and butter everyday and yesterday a colleague sent me the link of the Coconut Jam, I ordered it but would like to confirm if it is OK Product Description Our revolutionary coconut jam is amazingly delicious and like nothing you've ever tasted! Smooth and caramel sweet, and made from only 100% coconuts, with absolutely nothing added. Our jam makes for an amazingly mouth-watering spread to be used on breads, pastries, or biscuits - or even on its own, straight from the jar! One taste and you'll be hooked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physibeth Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 What is the ingredient list. The words "smooth and caramel sweet" indicate to me that they probably use coconut sugar in this which would make it not OK. In my quick web search I couldn't find this brand and couldn't find another with an ingredient list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkers Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'm with Physibeth. Looking at the color of the product, I would assume that the product includes coconut sugar and/or coconut sap both of which are sweeteners and both of which are out for the Whole 30. Edit: I found a Wiki article on coconut jam that indicates it's a sweetened product and every recipe I've run across includes sweetener of some sort. Snap a picture of the ingredient list when you get it, but I doubt this is compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted February 18, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 18, 2015 First response: You are asking if you can have an entire wrong category of food. Whether this particular product is compliant or not, it is not at all what you should be eating during a Whole30. You should be eating fresh, whole vegetables, meat, fish, and eggs. We make allowances for the convenience of some things that come in jars and cans, but this is not convenience. It is candy. It is dessert. You should not be eating this stuff! The Whole30 tries to be consistent about what is and is not allowed. The consequence of this consistency is that you can undermine the success of your Whole30 by consuming foods that are technically compliant, but that take you down the wrong road to improving your health. Don't do it. Second response: Although ingredient information on the coconut jam by Coconut Merchant is not available, every coconut jam I looked at on Amazon.com includes sugar. So the answer to can I have coconut jam during a Whole30 is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlaarend Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 What is the ingredient list. The words "smooth and caramel sweet" indicate to me that they probably use coconut sugar in this which would make it not OK. In my quick web search I couldn't find this brand and couldn't find another with an ingredient list. I'm with Physibeth. Looking at the color of the product, I would assume that the product includes coconut sugar and/or coconut sap both of which are sweeteners and both of which are out for the Whole 30. Edit: I found a Wiki article on coconut jam that indicates it's a sweetened product and every recipe I've run across includes sweetener of some sort. Snap a picture of the ingredient list when you get it, but I doubt this is compliant. That's a very good point, thanks @Physibeth and @Munkers. I think I got excited as the description of the product says "Smooth and caramel sweet, and made from only 100% coconuts, with absolutely nothing added". I never thought they could use coconut sugar on that, on my text interpretation I thought it was only pure coconut, from the fruit, maybe roasted to get the colour and blended. My bad. The product should arrive tomorrow, so I'll post the ingredients here. First response: You are asking if you can have an entire wrong category of food. Whether this particular product is compliant or not, it is not at all what you should be eating during a Whole30. You should be eating fresh, whole vegetables, meat, fish, and eggs. We make allowances for the convenience of some things that come in jars and cans, but this is not convenience. It is candy. It is dessert. You should not be eating this stuff! The Whole30 tries to be consistent about what is and is not allowed. The consequence of this consistency is that you can undermine the success of your Whole30 by consuming foods that are technically compliant, but that take you down the wrong road to improving your health. Don't do it. Second response: Although ingredient information on the coconut jam by Coconut Merchant is not available, every coconut jam I looked at on Amazon.com includes sugar. So the answer to can I have coconut jam during a Whole30 is no. Thanks @Tom, I definitely got over excited when my colleague showed me the link of the Jam - and when I read "made from 100%" coconut". This happened because I took my coconut butter jar to the office to share on a Coffee meeting, so a colleague sent me that link. I'm glad I asked here, but sorry if it sounded to "I want to cheat", I definitely do not want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/coco.merchant/photos_stream?ref=page_internal They don't tell you the exact ingredients... "Oh dear Lord I am OBSESSED.........I spread it on top of homemade dark chocolate (yes, I know, I am gross) and I cannot express to you how amazing it is!! I may also have been 'doing a Nutella' and sneaking it from the cupboard by the spoonful." But that comment tells me all I need to know. Snacks are not forbidden but discouraged. When we go in search of snacks, meals can be wiped off the table. Snacks don't break food addiction/craving cycles, they perpetuate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The dark color of the Coconut Jam sure does look like coconut sugar that you see on the far right in photo above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkers Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 If you're looking for a different take on coconut butter, you can experiment with toasted coconut butter. Toast the flakes before processing into coconut butter. Or forget about making it into coconut butter and just toss the flakes on top of soup or a stir fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlaarend Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 If you're looking for a different take on coconut butter, you can experiment with toasted coconut butter. Toast the flakes before processing into coconut butter. Or forget about making it into coconut butter and just toss the flakes on top of soup or a stir fry. That's a very good idea, thanks @munkers! I am actully not craving sweets, I was around day 10-14, but I'm just fine, but I'll definelly keep that as an idea. I'm loving my coffee with coconut butter and oil <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlaarend Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/coco.merchant/photos_stream?ref=page_internal They don't tell you the exact ingredients... "Oh dear Lord I am OBSESSED.........I spread it on top of homemade dark chocolate (yes, I know, I am gross) and I cannot express to you how amazing it is!! I may also have been 'doing a Nutella' and sneaking it from the cupboard by the spoonful." But that comment tells me all I need to know. Snacks are not forbidden but discouraged. When we go in search of snacks, meals can be wiped off the table. Snacks don't break food addiction/craving cycles, they perpetuate them. You are totally right. I got so excited when I read coments like that on the Amazon product page, everybody saying that it is heaven, and delicious, and 100% coconut and bla bla - so it is not good for my compulsion. I can't wait to have the jar and read the ingredients. And I promiss, I won't open the jar!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Order it on Day 31, or did you already order it? I wouldn't bring the sugar temptation into the house. Make a clean sweep of the cupboards and keep the sugar dragons out. If it's not there, it won't be calling your name in a moment of weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkor Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 What's that saying about 'If it sounds too good to be true...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlaarend Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Order it on Day 31, or did you already order it? I wouldn't bring the sugar temptation into the house. Make a clean sweep of the cupboards and keep the sugar dragons out. If it's not there, it won't be calling your name in a moment of weakness. I ordered by impulse when I saw it It arrived yesterday at my office, I opened it and gave to my colleagues to try. They were amazed by the taste, apparently is very very good, but they told me it was too sweet to be pure coconut fruit. So I called the 0800 line seeking for the true as the only ingredient listed on the packaging is coconut. A very nice lady called back and answered my questions. It is all coconut, but on its different forms: Coconut Milk and Coconut Sugar, to be more precise, 50% of it is coconut sugar. YOU WERE ALL RIGHT I didn't try it and I don't intend to, I quit sugar in 2013 and until the whole30 my sweeteners were erythritol and stevia, nothing else. I'm leaving the can for my colleagues, so they can have it, and just had some butternut squash do calm my heart, hehehehehe. What's that saying about 'If it sounds too good to be true...' True. I wont put my hopes up next time, hehehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Carla, I'm glad that you didn't eat it. I'm sure it was too expensive to just throw away. I've found that when we go in search of anything that's processed or denatured, it's usually a slippery slope of returning back to GroundHog Day. SWYPO's are for real. They are the lure and bait to take real food off of the table. Reliance upon anything but REAL FOODS becomes another crutch or fix. Those fixes can turn into a daily lil somethin' that lures a person into a full blown bender of thrill eating on Day 31. They really don't satisfy the desires or cravings for the real thing. They are counterfeits. I believe it's these counterfeits that stop the arrival of Tiger Blood. Spiking the blood sugar with snacking can smother the healing benefits of the brain and body. Kudos to you for avoiding sugars. May all of the rest of your W30 days be counterfeit free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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