RachelMc23 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Hi whole30ers! I know that this topic has been touched on a few times before, but I have a more specific/personal question. I recently went to a chiropractor who is very well respected by some of my healthiest friends and colleagues. He does kinesiology as well as holistic nutrition. I do believe him when he tells me how out of whack my adrenals are, I have all of the symptoms of pretty severe fatigue. I had a very hard couple of years with a divorce and financial stress which did a number on my health. My question is this. I was so excited to finally get in to see him, and I had JUST finished my first whole30 and was feeling good. I lost a bit of the wind out of sails however with the diet he told me to do. It is simply a one page handout on the "adrenal body type". It states to eat only fruit and some plain non fat yogurt for breakfast with absolutely no protein, a vegetarian lunch, and a high protein dinner. I have felt so torn, because I really believe in the whole30. Am I correct in thinking that his diet is absolutely backwards???? I am not a sheep... I must have research to back up everything related to health as I am in healthcare myself. I really want to work on my adrenal fatigue, but I feel torn (as he is very respected and highly recommended by people that I respect myself). I did feel somewhat better after my first whole30, but no tiger blood I'm afraid. I would appreciate any and all feedback. Basically, I am tired (ha go figure) and I want a trusted community of like minded folks to show me the light (or at least confirm my suspicions that this is a ludicrous diet with zero research to back it up). Also, I read the adrenal reset diet, and I am going to try to carb cycle with my next whole30. For those of you who have read the book, what are your thoughts on the author stating that beans are very important for health and he recommends them in every meal (even in protein shakes!). This different set of instructions just added to my confusion on the right thing to do for my adrenal fatigue. I'm basically overwhelmed with conflicting information on something I REALLY want to resolve. I am gearing up to start my second whole30 this next week. Can't wait to hear from all of you! Thank you in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted February 22, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think the best nutritional approach for adrenal fatigue is Whole30 style eating at every meal. There is no end to the variety of sincere opinions about how best to eat. Unfortunately most are based upon limited anecdotal "evidence." The Whole30 has worked for tens of thousands of people and fits with good science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkor Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Eat W30, reduce coffee, improve sleep hygiene, exercise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyS Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I have dealt with my adrenal fatigue with appropriate supplements from my naturopathic physician, follow-up and testing there as necessary, and eating Whole30. There is nothing about the eating plan your doctor recommended that will help your body heal. Whole30 does help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators LadyM Posted February 22, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2015 There will never be a "one size fits all" diet, even for specific ailments. This is but one of the reasons W30 is so incredibly successful for so many. Within its frame, the all-powerful template, is a lot of wiggle room to tweak and find a sweet spot that works for your particular body that is shifting and changing all the time. By following the template and healing yourself, you become quite responsive to those shifts and changes. Looking to follow someone else's bogus cure-all will have the opposite effect--it pulls you away from your own body, experience and wisdom. Here's what I did with the adrenal reset diet book: I read it out of curiosity and decided out of curiosity to try adding more starchy veg incrementally over the course of my three meals and kept to the template. No beans, no shakes (by the way, the author and his cohort of alternative nutrition folks sell their own version of protein powders, so you've really got to question their motivation for telling everyone how healthy it is to start your day with a shake). Turns out I needed that push to eat more starchy veg. My own naturopath, whom I adore and trust and have been working with for more than two years, suggested I drop to 50 g of carbs or less per day when I wasn't losing any weight. I tried that and it didn't work. Turns out it was starchy veg I needed--and becoming carb phobic was keeping me from finding my own sweet spot. I figured it out through trial and error, responding to my experience, and following my own body's wisdom. I recommend you do the same. Best of luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelMc23 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Thank you so much everyone! I was put on some supplements to help with my fatigue and they have helped some, so I can't say that my visit with that particular chiropractor is a total wash. Plus, I really liked the guy! Also, I didn't know that the author of that book has his own protein shake. I couldn't get past putting navy beans in a shake... I don't care if they say you can't taste it! Plus, it goes back to what we have learned with what those shakes can do to our sugar cravings and blood sugar. Not worth it. I am going to go with my gut and continue with the whole30, but utilize carbs a bit more to help with my circadian rhythm and cortisol production. You are all wonderful for replying to me! Wish me luck, my next whole30 (hoping whole365) starts tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators LadyM Posted February 22, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2015 Good luck, though we do not recommend setting out to do a Whole365. Of course you're welcome to eat W30-style as long as it serves you, but I wonder: have you done reintroductions? That would allow you to determine what effects certain foods have on your particular body. You learn for yourself whether or not beans, for example, should be a part of your regular diet. It's a much better system than followng anyone's blanket diet advice and sets you up for your best possible longterm way of eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Rachel, that protocol is not going to help adrenal fatigue. I buy my probiotics from a naturo and they immediately wanted to test me for leaky gut. Frankly, if my gut was leaking, I would be in the Marble Orchard. I know how peritonitis sets in. He also had a new book he wanted to sell me with Paleo desserts. The office was very excited about the peanut butter fudge recipe. My father has always told me, girl - you gotta use your head besides something to part your ears with. I made a get-away from the book and leaky gut testing. I'll have to find another place to go if they insist I buy/use that book with the sugar bomb recipes. I've been using Bone Broth and eating W30 foods for months. You're in charge of your health and you can manage it on your own terms. You instinctively know that's not a complete plan for adrenal fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whole30 Certified Coach littleg Posted February 23, 2015 Whole30 Certified Coach Share Posted February 23, 2015 Did you ask him the logic behind his diet recommendation? Keep in mind that most likely 99.9% of the people he treats have NOT just finished a W30, but rather are coming from a rather typical American diet. Even if his clients are a little more healthful based on the community he treats they may be coming from a lot of soy burgers on sprouted whole wheat rolls He may suggest that plan because, for most, it is a step in the right direction. If you trust his advice enough to pay for his advice I would ask him why he recommends that diet, explain the eating plan you adhere to and see if there is some way to meet his nutritional goals within the constraints of the foods you want to eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkers Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 You've already gotten good advice. The only thing that I want to add is the importance of quality salt. Your adrenals are responsibe for the hormone signals that tell your kidneys when to excrete and when to hold on to sodium. When you're dealing with adrenal fatigue/adrenal dysregulation, your kidneys often get too much of the signal to get rid of the sodium and you end up depleted. Don't be afraid to salt to taste when you eat. There may be some days that you only add a little and some days that you might as well just sit down with the salt shaker and a spoon, but either way your tastebuds will help clue you in on your body's needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrany Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm so glad to see your post on adrenal fatigue. I too have just finished reading the Adrenal Reset Diet. I have been on adrenal supplements for years and would like to find cheaper ways to heal my body from adrenal fatigue. I have been on whole 30 for about 60 days. In the past couple of weeks I have added more starchy veggies trying to do the carb cycling to regulate cortisol. I think I actually feel worse. I added green peas in the am meal but I think they are knocking me out! I have had a lot of realizations after reading these posts. I have been extremely tired and perhaps green peas are not good for me! I like the idea of reintroducing foods and see how I feel and I think I will do that. Just because something is suggested, does not mean it is right for me. All I want to do is lose weight and feel better. I was feeling better until I started trying the adrenal reset suggestions. Not to say it won't work for me but perhaps I just need to find the right carbs. I am really afraid of adding grains back in. I have had no cravings and want to keep it that way. Thanks so much to all who have shared in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted March 4, 2015 Administrators Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm so glad to see your post on adrenal fatigue. I too have just finished reading the Adrenal Reset Diet. I have been on adrenal supplements for years and would like to find cheaper ways to heal my body from adrenal fatigue. I have been on whole 30 for about 60 days. In the past couple of weeks I have added more starchy veggies trying to do the carb cycling to regulate cortisol. I think I actually feel worse. I added green peas in the am meal but I think they are knocking me out! I have had a lot of realizations after reading these posts. I have been extremely tired and perhaps green peas are not good for me! I like the idea of reintroducing foods and see how I feel and I think I will do that. Just because something is suggested, does not mean it is right for me. All I want to do is lose weight and feel better. I was feeling better until I started trying the adrenal reset suggestions. Not to say it won't work for me but perhaps I just need to find the right carbs. I am really afraid of adding grains back in. I have had no cravings and want to keep it that way. Thanks so much to all who have shared in this thread. Green peas are not permitted on Whole30 as they are a legume. Unless you are referring to sugar, snow or snap peas, you need to put them aside if you continue to follow Whole30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrany Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Maybe that's why I feel worse!!! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anramsey23 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I also had severe adrenal fatigue, many have already said much of what I would do. I would add that a good Raw adrenal supplement with adrenal glandular helped immensely. I've seen huge improvement with the whole 30 and getting moving more. I also do theta healing and foot zoning, essential oils which has helped the healing along. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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