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Hello everyone. My name is Becca. I've been reading the Whole30 FB and blog and forum for a while but finally got up the nerve to create an account on the forum and post a reply. I did my first W30 Jan 2014 and had several successful rounds since then. I started a round this January and was posting accountability photos on my Insta when I got caught with some bacon that I thought was compliant but it turns out that it wasn't and this was like day 29 or something like that so I started over in February and have been doing great with with my food choices and meal plans. However, last weekend I hit a rough patch where I had 102.7 fever and I blacked out Friday morning with my blood pressure bottoming out at 86/55. My blood sugar was low too at 85. I didn't know what was wrong because I didn't feel congested or have bowel issues, only slight nausea. Every time I tried to get out of bed I almost fell down and I was having trouble staying warm even with thick socks and three blankets on me.  I drink three liters of water practically every day so I didn't think it was dehydration so I called my doctor and he said that he thought that it was dehydration and that I needed to drink some Gatorade  or poweraide or pedialite. I just agreed with him and then hung up the phone and cried because I knew that none of that was W30 compliant. So I drank pickle juice and ate bananas. My roommate thought I was insane or possibly pregnant for finding that combination appetizing. (I tested myself and I'm not pregnant :( ) I also drank some 8 ounce things of coconut water from Costco and prayed that they were compliant. I had made a roast in the crockpot before I got sick so I dumped a lot of juices on it and called it stew which I proceeded to salt up. I hated to add salt to it cause it tasted so good but the salt helped my headaches some.  I went back to the doctor today and he said that my fatigue and fever was because my body was fighting a virus and that the low blood pressure was dehydration. My trouble is that now that my temperature is back to normal and my blood pressure is normalizing, I'm not sure why I am still so tired. I am also feeling like I am back to my old craving because I just want to quit this round and fall face first into a pizza. I got some great cookbooks with some awesome W30 compliant recipes so I shouldn't be bored with my food but I just am feeling tired and my depression and anxiety seem to be kicking back in. I know I've been rambling so thank you for reading this. I guess I should have posted this in the troubleshooting area because I am now searching through the posts to see what others have done when fatigue and depression decides to show back up.


Thank you all for your amazing posts.

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I moved this to the Troubleshooting section for you.


Can you post 2-3 days worth of your typical food log, along with water consumption, exercise and nightly hours of sleep? I wonder if you're getting enough carb-dense vegetables?

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Sadly I have not been exercising because by the time I get home from work and in order to get 8 hours of sleep I just have been vegging out in front of my computer looking up food blogs, catching up on Instagram  posts, FB posts, and trying to find answers in forums. By the time I finish dinner and reading what I've been looking up I realize that the night has drifted away and I need to hurry to bed. Kind of like tonight. Before I got sick on Friday I was working 10 hours days at my office to try to help get us caught up on paperwork since we have had some people retire and promote out so that leaves the workload on the rest of us. anyway, sorry rambling again...


Friday when I was feeling my worst all I could eat was a few bananas and some handfuls of macadamia nuts. I drank a 8 ounce glass of pickle juice and 2 liters of water. I also slept for a majority of the day because I was running fever. For dinner that night I wanted to eat something salty so I grabbed some

applegate deli meats and ate some slices of that with 2 pickles and 3 big  green olives and homemade mayo

Saturday was similar to Friday, Bananas, macadamia nuts, apple sauce, 2 liters water, 8 oz coconut water, then that night I was able to eat a bowl of stew made from probably about 8 oz of cocoa rubbed roast (stupid easy paleo's recipe) with large portion of the carrots, onions and white potatoes that cooked with the roast.

Sunday I was feeling better so I had sausage and fried eggs, another coconut water, some more water, two ground beef patties with mashed white potatoes and sauteed broccoli. 

Monday I had a B = broccoli, sweet potato, and egg frittata with a banana

L= two salmon patties (ISWF recipe) and some mayo

snack of a handful of cashews

D=sausage with leftover mashed potatoes and broccoli

Tuesday B=broccoli, sweet potato, and egg frittata with a banana

L=leftover stew with potatoes and carrots

snack of a handful of cashews

D=beef brisket and mashed sweet potato

Monday and Today I was back up to drinking 3 liters of water and I had forgot to add that I had a cup of black coffee with breakfast both days

I have been trying to get 8 hours of sleep but my four legged alarm clocks have been restless because of the weird weather. It takes me 45 minutes every day to get to work so that is an hour and half every day of just driving for work, not counting the 10 hours at work plus the 30 minutes we get for lunch.

Wow, no wonder my body shut down on Friday, because the 9th through the 13th I worked 10 hour shifts, went in for 8 hours of overtime on saturday the 14th, took the 15th off to go watch a musical with my family, worked an 8 hour shift on Monday the 16th, then worked 10 hour shifts on the 17th & 18th, then 8  hour shift on Thursday the 19th, and then Friday the 20th is when things shut down for me. :P

Thank you so much for writing back.

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Yeah, sounds like your body was extra taxed recently, which could be the crux of your tiredness.

Some thoughts:

- double-check the ingredients on the Applegate deli meats. Many contain carrageenan.

- also confirm the applesauce and pickles were compliant

- the coffee w breakfast: be sure to not drink that before your meal, as caffeine can act as an appetite suppressant

- watch the coconut water. Confirm compliance and also don't use in place of water as a beverage. It's only to be used for rehydration in extreme athletic or work situations. Using it when you were severely dehydrated/sick was ok.

- it's tricky to tell portions in some cases, but at each meal you want to aim for 1-2 palms of protein, 1-3 cups of veggies, and the appropriate amount of fat per the meal template. Play with the portions until they satiate you for 4-5 hours.

- If you are genuinely hungry between meals, the recommended snack is a mini-meal of protein, veg and fat. Nuts are a fat source. Reserve fruit to have with or immediately after your main meals only.

Hope this is a lighter work-week for you, and you get a chance to regularly relax.

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Okay, I'm back, I check on the Applegate deli meat and the black pepper turkey has carrageen (from seaweed) CRAP!  :angry: So I guess this means I have to start over again.

Not sure how the pickles would non-compliant since they are cucumbers, water, vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, spices, red pepper, natural flavorings (whatever that means), yellow #5, polysorbate  They are Del-Dixi/Best Maid brand, a brand of pickles from Fort Worth, TX. I like supporting Texas companies so thats why I usually choose them and the polish style has a little spice to it.

The olives were double stuffed jalapeno/Garlic olives with ingredients reading fermented and pasteurized pitted green olives, jalapeno peppers, garlic, water, white wine vinegar, sea salt, lemon juice, and herbs

The apple sauce is santa cruz brand organic with ingredients of organic apples, water, ascorbic acid

The coconut water is Kirkland brand with ingredients of coconut water, vitamin C

I usually try to over-do-it on the veggies because I am so worried about getting too much protein since i am not working out 

Today's breakfast didn't have any veggies because I forgot to pack some lettuce leaves and didn't have a microwave to heat up a slice of frittata so I just had two boiled eggs and a 3.2oz packet of apple sauce

Lunch was a 0.7 L bowl of butternut squash soup (stupid easy paleo recipe) and two medium sized cabbage rolls made with venison and beef and mushrooms and almond flour (the size of the meatballs inside the leaves was about 3/4 of my palm on both)

Dinner had to be eaten out because we were not going to get back home in time to cook so I had a salad with iceberg lettuce, tomato slices, beef fajita chunks, guacamole, and salsa

I've probably failed all over again. I thought I was doing so well on all of my W30 adventures but now reading through some of the forum posts I am finding out that I apparently slipped up in little ways that I didn't even know I was doing wrong like not being religious with the meal template or missing out on veggies for breakfast, or having a small snack of nuts in between getting off work and getting home. or using deli meats wrapped in lettuce leaves for something to eat when I have to be on a road trip for work and my coworkers just want to stop at McD's

I am so stressed out. I thought I was doing okay. I thought I was doing it right.  :huh:  :(  :wacko:

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There's "the rules" and there's "the recommendations" ... no carageenan is a rule, the meal template is a recommendation.

Now granted, the recommendations are fairly strong, but there's no need to feel like a failure or beat yourself up over a slip. Keep making each day better than yesterday. Heck, I've done 3 W30s and I'm always learning something new: about food, about myself, and about what the rest of my life is going to look like.

Whether you choose to start over and do a 30 from scratch, or you call this current run a WholeXYZ, the important thing is to use this program's principles (and rules) to nourish your body and mind and come out of the process feeling happier and healthier.

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Definitely don't beat yourself up about it.  Really don't.  I know it's hard not to do that, but remember:  You worked through being ill!  This is huge!  Many people find it a reason to quit.  You persevered and you did it!  Good on you!


Now the slips you made were not done purposely.  So why would you beat yourself up over that?


Just remember going forward - Read your ingredients.  Thoroughly.


And remember - do not let perfect be the enemy of GOOD. Perfection is impossible. But good or Excellent?  THOSE are possible. Keep the good stuff going Becca.  You got this.

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Thank you all for the wonderful posts. After reading though and talking with my roommate (who I have been driving crazy with my stress and depression) I have decided to hang up my W30 hat for this round and pick it back up and start from scratch when I have less crazy at work and can get more sleep and more meal prep time. This round was just hard on me mentally. I want to enjoy life, not hate myself for the little slips and falls. if I can I would like to continue reading and posting replies on the forum but just start from scratch later down the road.

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