Alex9981 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I was heating up pizza for my son (I know, bad mommy!) and completely without thinking, I picked a tiny piece (approx. the size of a quarter) of the melted cheese that was hanging off the edge of the plate and ate it. I realized it thirty seconds later but it was too late! I really don't want to restart because I'm doing this with my husband and I want us to finish on the same day. What do you think? Big deal or am I freaking out over nothing? (By the way, I have no issues with digesting dairy.) Thanks in advance! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 These days, folks add days onto the end of their Whole 30 as a stop-gap measure. It's virtually the same as starting over. You can continue on with your husband and whatever Day you're on...just add X amount of days onto the end of yours. Dairy is non-negotiable. It all comes down to completing an authentic Whole 30. It's so easy to let one item go and then 10 days later, another one might slip in through the side door. You want the real Whole 30. If you're planning on a Reintro process, it is the only way to get a legitimate test. The other bonus, there's something about being completely honest with one's self that adds excitement as the compliant days add up. Those 100% compliant days will give you the motivation to keep going until Day 30 without caving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkers Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 What are your goals for Whole30? Why did you decide to undertake the program? For me, a major point of doing a Whole30 is strict compliance with the program so ingestion of dairy, accidental or not, would be cause for me to restart. The other big part of Whole30 is being mindful and being aware of what's going into my mouth. Putting something in my mouth without thinking would also not fit with my goals for the program. "Accidents" on this program are usually situations where we've done our due diligence in asking the right questions, but been given false or misleading information. Along the lines of "Hey, does this marinade have soy in it?" and being told no only to find out after the fact that it actually had tamari in it and we've been led astray. Ultimately, this is your journey and you're the one to decide what you want to get out of it. The Whole9 team has an article Do I Really Have to Start Over? that offers further guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex9981 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Thanks for your input. Perhaps I didn't make clear that I REALLY had no intention to eat that TINY bite of cheese. I did it absentmindedly. While preparing food for my kids, I keep reminding myself not to lick my fingers but at that particular moment, I was multi-tasking and just didn't realize what I was doing until it was too late. Believe me, if I wasn't committed to doing Whole30 right, I'd much rather have a glass of wine than a bite of reheated cheese (from the pizza). Anyway, just wanted to share that. Thanks again for your advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyS Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 You do get to decide. One thing you might consider is to delay reintroducing dairy until you've gone without it for 30 days, if that makes sense. So in that case you'd wrap up your Whole30, start your reintroductions, and just hold off on reintroducing dairy until it's been 30 days without it. Would that work in your situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I'd just add that unless you've previously done an exclusion and reintroducton of dairy and have seen that you have no difficulty in digesting it that you actually don't know for sure. Your gut could have been so inflamed previously that it didn't matter what you ingested, you'd have still felt the ame way. You aren't to know this until the inflammation has settled down & you're in a position to try a reintro.I'm old school, and if it were me I'd have to do a restart purely for my own sanity/conscience, but if that won't work for you then I'd go with Amy's suggestion of holding off the dairy reintro until 30days after 'cheese-gate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophsmom Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Don't sweat it. I think common sense tells us that one quarter sized piece of cheese is harmless when eaten by mistake. You didn't eat a whole wheel of Brie! Just keep going and dont feel like you've deprived yourself of a true Whole30. You're still doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ultrarunnergirl Posted May 21, 2015 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2015 Don't sweat it. I think common sense tells us that one quarter sized piece of cheese is harmless when eaten by mistake. You didn't eat a whole wheel of Brie! Just keep going and dont feel like you've deprived yourself of a true Whole30. You're still doing it. Sophsmom, I understand that you are trying to show kindness in response to Alex's cheese consumption. She feels bad that she just didn't think before she popped it in her mouth. However "common sense" can't be invoked in this case just because it was a small amount. Nor because she mistakenly ate it. The Whole30 program is deeply rooted in science, and whether someone mistakenly eats something or it is deliberate, that food will have some effect on them. Alex may not feel anything different after eating the cheese, but that doesn't mean it hasn't affected her. Even a small amount of flour/gluten, for instance, will affect someone with gluten sensitivity. For a celiac, even a dusting can cause serious illness for days. No one is trying to make Alex feel bad about her bite of cheese. It simply wouldn't be fair to lead her to believe that one bite won't matter to her results. She might still feel really great by the end, but she might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Thank you, UltrarunnerGirl. A year ago, someone slipped up with a pasta noodle while making dinner for his kids. I was a newbie and told him, "Surely that doesn't matter....just keep on going." He was told to start over. That was before the language was loosened up. Now, the decision is left up to the member. The results are still the same as they were then. If you slip with dairy it will affect your Reintro testing. If there are no reintros planned, that might help with the decision to keep going. Remembered where it was... Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:31 PM Please tell me that I didn't mess up my Whole 30! I am on day 20, feeling great, eating great. I was making some Mac and Cheese for my nephew. I ate four small pasta shells to test if they were done, totally absent-mindedly. I guess at least they were organic. Did I ruin the whole month!? Agghh Posted 21 June 2014 - 06:13 AM Technically, eating gluten (accidental or not), calls for a restart, as gluten is one of the big gut disruptors. The idea with a Whole30 is to have 30 consecutive days of no gut disrupting ingredients. To do a complete Whole30, today would be day 1 (or you could call what you're doing a Whole50). If that feels too overwhelming, you could continue with your remaining 10 days and do reintroductions, and it's unclear the impact of the pasta would have on those results. That was then. Today, I think accurate results from reintros are very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophsmom Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Sorry ultrarunnergirl, I just don't agree. I get your point but if the op had a cheese allergy or celiac, she probably would not have eaten the cheese. She'd know not to. If that quarter-sized bite unleashed an unknown allergy, I stand corrected. But short of that, any suggestion that she start over or delay reintroducing dairy is just not based in sound science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jicamaqueen Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Sorry ultrarunnergirl, I just don't agree. I get your point but if the op had a cheese allergy or celiac, she probably would not have eaten the cheese. She'd know not to. If that quarter-sized bite unleashed an unknown allergy, I stand corrected. But short of that, any suggestion that she start over or delay reintroducing dairy is just not based in sound science. Sophsmom: have you read ISWF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ultrarunnergirl Posted May 22, 2015 Moderators Share Posted May 22, 2015 Sorry ultrarunnergirl, I just don't agree. I get your point but if the op had a cheese allergy or celiac, she probably would not have eaten the cheese. She'd know not to. If that quarter-sized bite unleashed an unknown allergy, I stand corrected. But short of that, any suggestion that she start over or delay reintroducing dairy is just not based in sound science. You're entitled to your opinion, but we moderators are not here to argue about the science or the rules behind the program. If you don't accept them, why are you here? Plenty of people are not aware of allergies and sensitivities they have to food they are eating. Finding out about these sensitivities is possible by doing a Whole30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted May 22, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 22, 2015 Sorry ultrarunnergirl, I just don't agree. I get your point but if the op had a cheese allergy or celiac, she probably would not have eaten the cheese. She'd know not to. If that quarter-sized bite unleashed an unknown allergy, I stand corrected. But short of that, any suggestion that she start over or delay reintroducing dairy is just not based in sound science. How is she supposed to know if she has a sensitivity to cheese if she doesn't cut it out for 30 days? There are hundreds if not thousands of testimonials of people starting a Whole30 saying "I know I can eat dairy..." and at the end when they reintroduce it they are floored, heartbroken and shocked to find that dairy is terrible on their digestive system, mood and skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlaccini Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Soph'smom - in all due respect here. I am one of these people who will dearly pay for that small amount of cheese ingested. I will pay for it as long as 2 weeks. Did I know I was THAT sensitive to dairy before my whole 30? Nope! Is cheese worth it for me? - like maybe once a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I found reading It Starts With Food a good place to separate facts from confusion. I still read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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