houmi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I've been on Whole30 for my second month+, I frequent these forums often to read people's thoughts/problems. I had posted previously what I thought of it after a month+ but here are some of my newer thoughts. Overall I like this program quite a bit, but there maybe parts of it I may have to change. Mishaps: I didn't really want to change the Whole30 & different food reintroductions, I did try some deli meats that had some sugar in them (organic honey), but ended up going back to the strict whole30 with sugar free bacon and such. My only mishap was that I had a box of chocolates one night I was super stressed I ate from which gave me a sugar rush for a week straight and really bad headaches. I ended up getting back to normal Whole30 diet and things went back to normal. Pros: I've lost another 4 lb for a total of 8 lbs, and fairly happy on that front. The bloating/constipations went away as I introduced different Probiotics and I couldn't be happier. But... Cons: I've been getting very tired lately, I thought that maybe this was because of lack of eating at times (skipping one meal), so getting those meals back and eating more starchy vegetables like butternut squash or sweet potatoes, in order to see if they'd help. I've had sugar cravings as well lately when I am super tired. I also had some chest pains recently. My mother and my uncle (heart surgeon), are suspicious with me eating bacons and consuming ghee / coconut oil (high saturated fat) and even though like my diet, think the consumption of those fatty oils may lead into coronary issues. So I've decided to meet with my endocrinologist and have a lipid panel to see where my cholesterol levels stand lately (I always had higher cholesterols/LDL which pushed me into trying Paleo/Whole30) So not sure where I'll be headed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted July 20, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 20, 2015 Cons: I've been getting very tired lately, I thought that maybe this was because of lack of eating at times (skipping one meal), so getting those meals back and eating more starchy vegetables like butternut squash or sweet potatoes, in order to see if they'd help. I've had sugar cravings as well lately when I am super tired. I also had some chest pains recently. Chest pains are not a symptom of eating protein, vegetables and fat. Please see a doctor asap! As far as not eating enough, yes, skipping meals or not eating enough will cause tiredness as will going too low carb so you're on the right track for adding back squash and sweet potatoes. Lack of these carbohydrates will also cause increased sugar cravings so the squash/potato solution is multi-faceted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 My mother and my uncle (heart surgeon), are suspicious with me eating bacons and consuming ghee / coconut oil (high saturated fat) and even though like my diet, think the consumption of those fatty oils may lead into coronary issues. You might want to take a look at these articles: http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy/ http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-why-everyone-should-know-their-ldl-particle-number/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houmi Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 Chest pains are not a symptom of eating protein, vegetables and fat. Please see a doctor asap! As far as not eating enough, yes, skipping meals or not eating enough will cause tiredness as will going too low carb so you're on the right track for adding back squash and sweet potatoes. Lack of these carbohydrates will also cause increased sugar cravings so the squash/potato solution is multi-faceted. Thanks I will this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I have a heart surgeon, too. My positive results over the last 14 months have been something he can get on board with. I had a really weak game in June of 2014. Since then, my cholesterol, blood sugar, oxygen levels, breathing is off the hook great. I eat compliant bacon...alot. I always have it with whopping boatloads of greens, kind of use it as the primer for my paint. I use a few strips of bacon and then throw greens galore in. I've used alot of different vinegars, lemons and limes, too. I think that helps cut through the bacon fat. Do you know when I had some really serious problems.... I was drinking alot of protein powders. Protein powders can put alot of stress on a gallbladder. The culprit is being on a low fat diet because your gallbladder is not flushing bile out and stones can more easily form. A low fat diet is conducive to gallbladder problems especially in women. It becomes more noticeable to them when they start eating higher fat meals. But once a gallbladder has been removed, a low fat diet is then advised and considered the best course of action to ease digestion. So eating a high fat diet, I've been able to release a considerable amount of weight and not encounter any gallbladder problems. It may seem counterintuitive but find a doctor who will work with you. It pays off in in silver dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houmi Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 You might want to take a look at these articles: http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy/ http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-why-everyone-should-know-their-ldl-particle-number/ I read the links + links to .gov site for the different studies. Thanks. But for once I'd like to read an article from WebMD or Mayo Clinic or Medical Docs (other than Dr Oz), supporting such articles. I personally since day one have loved the Paleo/Whole30 concept, but even though I follow the cooking with Ghee/Coconut Oil or Animal fats, I still have my doubts on it for the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 It's only 30 days and as Melissa and Dallas say...don't stand at the door - go off and find your own food protocol that works for you after a Whole 30. There's no such thing as a Whole 365. It may take awhile or decades before the medical community makes changes. After all, diabetic diets are loaded to the gills with grains and other things that would not have put me anywhere close to where I am today. I was in an emergency room recently and read some medical articles about how giving up grains can help those suffering with depression go into complete remission. It just takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted July 20, 2015 Moderators Share Posted July 20, 2015 I read the links + links to .gov site for the different studies. Thanks. But for once I'd like to read an article from WebMD or Mayo Clinic or Medical Docs (other than Dr Oz), supporting such articles. I personally since day one have loved the Paleo/Whole30 concept, but even though I follow the cooking with Ghee/Coconut Oil or Animal fats, I still have my doubts on it for the long term. The cholesterol/heart disease theory has begun to be dismissed my more conventional doctors, but I have failed to collect links lately. Here is my old collection of links on the topic. My favorite doctor for debunking the religion of cholesterol fear is a Brit - Dr. Briffa. See the last link in the list. http://whole9life.com/2014/10/truth-cholesterol/ http://whole9life.com/2014/12/truth-cholesterol-part-2/ http://whole30.com/2013/09/doctors-and-whole30/ http://paleononpaleo.com/paleo-high-cholesterol/ http://paleononpaleo.com/paleo-cholesterol-testing/ http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-statins-dont-save-lives-in-people-without-heart-disease http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2013/05/sudden-cholesterol-increase-it-may-be.html http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/ http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/statin-madness/ http://www.drbriffa.com/blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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