Zoey Green Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Sometimes it's so hard to determine if something is ok on the Whole30. I use cashew cream that I add a date or two to give a little sweetness for my coffee in the morning. I limit my coffee to 1 cup a day - 1-2 of cream. I make the cashew cream with: 1/2 cup raw cashews 1/2 cup water 2 dates soak over night blend and store in frig. Is this ok?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted July 21, 2015 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2015 Sorry, no, not even a little bit okay. See the bottom of this blog post made recently by Melissa ________________ No recreating baked goods, junk foods, or treats We’ve discussed this extensively in It Starts With Food, on the website, and in a special chapter in our new book, The Whole30. While this rule isn’t as black-and-white as the other foods we list as off-limits (see the “a little of both” section for more details), there are some items we specifically call out as off-limits, whether you think you have an issue with these foods or not. Bread-like products: bread, tortillas, biscuits, pizza crust, crepes, etc. made from alternative flours Breakfast treats: pancakes, muffins, bagels, waffles, cereal Baked treats: cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies Junk foods: deep fried or commercially prepared potato chips or French fries, ice cream And this one recipe where eggs, date paste, and coconut milk are combined with prayers to create a thick, creamy concoction that can once again transform your undrinkable black coffee into sweet, dreamy caffeine. - See more at: http://whole30.com/2015/01/rules-recommendations/#sthash.s85nd94M.dpuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC84 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Sorry, no, not even a little bit okay. See the bottom of this blog post made recently by Melissa ________________ No recreating baked goods, junk foods, or treats We’ve discussed this extensively in It Starts With Food, on the website, and in a special chapter in our new book, The Whole30. While this rule isn’t as black-and-white as the other foods we list as off-limits (see the “a little of both” section for more details), there are some items we specifically call out as off-limits, whether you think you have an issue with these foods or not. Bread-like products: bread, tortillas, biscuits, pizza crust, crepes, etc. made from alternative flours Breakfast treats: pancakes, muffins, bagels, waffles, cereal Baked treats: cake, cupcakes, cookies, brownies Junk foods: deep fried or commercially prepared potato chips or French fries, ice cream And this one recipe where eggs, date paste, and coconut milk are combined with prayers to create a thick, creamy concoction that can once again transform your undrinkable black coffee into sweet, dreamy caffeine. - See more at: http://whole30.com/2015/01/rules-recommendations/#sthash.s85nd94M.dpuf I completly disagree with you Sugarcube. His recipe is nothing like the one you posted that was called out in the blog. Dates are not date paste, water isn't coconut milk, and he has no eggs. Everything in your recipe is allowed under Whole 30. The book even says add up to a closed handful of nuts, 1/2-1 avocado, and 1/4 to 1/2 of a 14 ounce can of coconut milk. The ONLY reason I could see it being considered off limit is because you're using it as a replacement for a sweetness additive to your coffee. I see this as adding fat to your coffee. Others will disagree. If you asked the question "Can I have 2 dates and a closed handful sized serving of cashews with my coffee in the morning?" I don't think anyone would tell you no. Why does it magically become prohibited when you add it to your coffee? It's loads of fat and minimal carbs. I made a similar recipe into "energy balls" with walnuts, pistachios, shreaded coconut and dates to thicken it up into a ball form. You'll read plenty of athletes here doing something similar for their long run fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted July 21, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2015 Everything in a lot of "paleo" recipes is allowed on Whole30, that doesn't mean that they are recommended or even that they are within the rules (eg, egg banana pancakes....compliant ingredients that when combined into a fried disc, are completely against the rules). I would say no on this coffee creamer because it is an attempt to replace a coffee sweetener/creamer from your pre-Whole30 days. Try taking your coffee with a dash of the nut milk minus the dates or even try it black and splurge on higher end beans. Or try cold brew, that tends to have a milder, smoother flavour for some. The "energy balls" you refer to are a homemade larabar hack and would only be approved in the event of an emergency (such as getting stuck in 6 hours of gridlock or being trapped at an airport in a massive blizzard) or, as you said, on a long hike or endurance event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucieB Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 "To give it a little sweetness". There's the key right there, whole30 says no sweeteners. An athlete eating dates is fueling. This coffee thing perplexes me. I think Tom said it recently- if you don't like it then drink something else. In these cases, it's not WHAT but HOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Actually it's all about context, and re-creating an old food is not helping you change your bad habits or your relationship with food so I'd agree that this is out.Apart from that dates are about as close as you can get to candy on a Whole30 so not exactly 'minimal carbs' as you suggest.If you don;t like your coffee black, or with the alternatives most people use don't drink it.Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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