weecairnsy Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hey everyone. I have just started my first Whole30 diet and my husband is really keen to do one. He is applying elements of it at the minute to get to terms with what it involves etc. This is my question though - what does Whole30 and type 1 diabetes look like? For example how slowly do you go initially? What do you do about hypos? How supportive were doctors? He was put on statins at a crazy young age (due to family history, not high cholesterol!) and wants to stop them also after years of use. Have others done this and how have you found that transition? We are in the UK/Ireland where Whole30 isn't known very well so will likely be perceived as hippies finding nonsense on the internet when we bring this idea to the consultant next month! Some personal experiences would be great to boost our confidence that this is possible! Thanks! Ashleigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hi Ashleigh,For folks living with Type 1 diabetes and on medication for it, it's essential to have a discussion with your physician before embarking on a Whole30. Related article here. I'll let others comment on statins and coming off them, as I'm not a medical professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I have just started my first Whole30 diet and my husband is really keen to do one. He is applying elements of it at the minute to get to terms with what it involves etc. This is my question though - what does Whole30 and type 1 diabetes look like? For example how slowly do you go initially? What do you do about hypos? How supportive were doctors? He was put on statins at a crazy young age (due to family history, not high cholesterol!) and wants to stop them also after years of use. Have others done this and how have you found that transition? We are in the UK/Ireland where Whole30 isn't known very well so will likely be perceived as hippies finding nonsense on the internet when we bring this idea to the consultant next month! Some personal experiences would be great to boost our confidence that this is possible! Thanks! Ashleigh It's very important to talk with your doctor first, changes in diet for anyone with Diabetes should be monitored (Type 1 or 2), and all medication should be regularly reviewed. Apple juice is a common hypo fix used, it's best to discuss with your doctor what your options are and make sure you have something portable with you at all times If hypos occur, note the time and severity, so you can figure out how to prevent them in future. If your husband has been on statins for a long time, he may need a long tapering period, possibly much longer than a W30, so it might be worth considering that as a separate "project". You both may be interested in this article: http://whole30.com/2011/03/the-whole30-type-1-diabetes/ Personally I'd avoided joining the Type 2 team through my W30 journey, I was pre-diabetic with crazy spiking fasted blood sugar, completely erratic and metabolically deranged. Now I'm pretty squarely back into Normal I highly recommend keeping a detailed food log along with your required medical stats. Your doctor may also want some before and after blood work, this is often where you can see some serious magic that isn't always as visible on the outside. Things doctors generally like about Whole30: Unprocessed food Lots of Vegetables & Fruit No junk food Some things some doctors can be nervous about: No dairy No grains Eliminating "everything" - this really comes down to sustainability and concerns about deficiencies Deficiencies - This can be a real issue for some people and should be discussed with your doctor. I think it's worth pointing out it's for 30 days, as that is often something they miss, despite the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weecairnsy Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Thanks guys, only reading these now. Will take a look at the links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klforbes Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I did not do the safest thing and started without talking to my doctors. I've had T1D for almost 20 years as well as a background in healthcare and consider myself pretty knowledgeable, but by no means an endocrinologist. I'm on day 28 and for the first 21 days had consistent lows. Many in the middle of the night due to lack of appetite at dinner time. I decreased my basal rates around day 15. I was treating the lows with whatever juices or sodas I could find (I spent 1 week out of town for business so I had to go with what was available) but I found some juices that are 100% juice and do not contain any sweeteners when I got home. About a week ago I started having a large glass of juice before bed. This has seemed to help a lot. I've only had 1 low in the middle of the night. In addition to the juice, I also consume slightly more fruit than what is recommended for Whole30. I typically consume 2-3 portions of fruit per day with a serving of healthy fat to help keep my blood sugar regulated. I've enjoyed the results of Whole30 so far and intend to continue a similar diet but incorporate small portions of grains at dinner. Definitely have him talk it over with his endocrinologist and consider using square wave or temporary basal patterns and consider keeping a bit of grain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weecairnsy Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 I did not do the safest thing and started without talking to my doctors. I've had T1D for almost 20 years as well as a background in healthcare and consider myself pretty knowledgeable, but by no means an endocrinologist. I'm on day 28 and for the first 21 days had consistent lows. Many in the middle of the night due to lack of appetite at dinner time. I decreased my basal rates around day 15. I was treating the lows with whatever juices or sodas I could find (I spent 1 week out of town for business so I had to go with what was available) but I found some juices that are 100% juice and do not contain any sweeteners when I got home. About a week ago I started having a large glass of juice before bed. This has seemed to help a lot. I've only had 1 low in the middle of the night. In addition to the juice, I also consume slightly more fruit than what is recommended for Whole30. I typically consume 2-3 portions of fruit per day with a serving of healthy fat to help keep my blood sugar regulated. I've enjoyed the results of Whole30 so far and intend to continue a similar diet but incorporate small portions of grains at dinner. Definitely have him talk it over with his endocrinologist and consider using square wave or temporary basal patterns and consider keeping a bit of grain. I've just read this - thanks for taking the time to respond. I am about to do my 2nd Whole 30 and I think our plan is for my husband to join me but incorporate some starch like wholegrain rice initially. I'm worried about his bloods in the middle of the night so I'll bear in my mind what you've shared about fruit. How have you found things since November? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmary Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I'm worried about his bloods in the middle of the night so I'll bear in my mind what you've shared about fruit. Keep in mind that the blood sugar lows are a result of more medication than is needed. It is far better to work with your Doctor on reducing this medication instead of offsetting it with fruit or juice (emergency situations aside--speaking in the long term here). Despite conventional wisdom, lower carb/lower sugar is actually much better for diabetics. The Whole30 as written is very safe and appropriate, given that moderate high quality carbs are included, together with good protein and fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Starchy veg might also give you a longer lasting stable period than fruit for T1D, as it doesn't spike and drop the same way. Also review how much starch you're getting in total for the day, if you're not getting enough with all your meals and only having starch with dinner, the "top up" at night won't last you through the night, as it also has to "back fill" the gap from earlier in the day. Cold potato salad, plantains, pumpkin, there are plenty of other carb options than grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin.christopher33 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm a type 1 diabetic myself and will be starting my first whole30 tomorrow. I'm a bit worried about my night time glucose levels. I've had multiple seizures at nights due to extreme physical activity in the evenings. I'll be wearing a dexcom device throughout my challenge. But, I wanted to get some feedback if I should chug a glass of pure oj before bed? Or if I need to find something high in protein to consume? And if so what are good options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 First up, make sure your doctor know about your plan as they may want to review things. I'd skip any physical activity if you can for a few days, let your body adjust first (this will reduce your risk of depleting the resources you have). Do you normally eat anything special before bed? If not, I wouldn't add it, just make sure you're getting starchy veg with each meal in your day, along with protein and fat (the template gives really good results). OJ might give you a blood sugar spike, but it can just as easily be followed by a big crash. Coconut butter is a great fat to add if you're not sure you're getting enough, it has just a little bit of fibre in it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Kevin How did this go for you? I am on day 24 of the whole 30 and have just not got insulin basal rates down to where they need to be to prevent having to eat before bed. For 2 days now I have had normal blood sugars with out bolusing for food and basal insulin lower than ever before in the 9 years I have had this disease. I would like to get a glucometer to go with my pump to see the true 24 hour period but insurance is hesitant to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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