Amogino Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I am on Day 23 and for the most part feel incredible - sleeping great, energy levels great, no allergies (really - that is a big one for me this time of year!), and mood is really up. Pretty sure no weight loss, but staying positive on the rest. The only trouble is - twice in this regime I've had very, very bad intenstinal distress. Once around day 10 for 2-3 days, now again from days 21-23 (and still going). I don't see any difference in what I'm eating prior to those times. I have very loose BMs and terrible cramping....afraid to leave the house kind of issues. Is this normal? Is there something I can do about this? Yesterday I could not eat anything much becuase it just made matter worse, so just drank lots of water. I'm a pescatarian so don't tell me to drink some bone soup - just wondering if I need digestive enzymes (are they approved?) I miss my greek yogurt at times like this....looked like lots of probiotics have something unapproved in them. Please advise - can't stand much more of this - what's the good of energy if you can't leave the house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted October 1, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 1, 2015 Can you give us a rundown on what you've been eating (and what you had been eating the previous instance)? Some digestive culprits are excess amounts of nuts/nut products, too many cruciferous veggies (especially bad if they are also raw), too much raw veggie in general. I am personally a menu planner so sometimes if I've planned poorly and we have a couple recipes that span over 5+ meals that include cabbage, cauliflower, nut products etc, I get a very upset stomach. Where are you in your menstrual cycle? Are the two related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted October 1, 2015 Moderators Share Posted October 1, 2015 Both digestive enzymes and probiotics are okay, but some are Whole30-compliant and some are not. I have begun to take Primal Flora on a routine, daily basis and it has improved my bowel life a great deal. I thought the probiotics I got from daily consumption of sauerkraut and kombucha would be enough, but the supplement has made a real difference. By the way, you can take an over-the-counter med to help with diarrhea. I would not think of just waiting for the problem to stop on its own. What you should know about probiotics http://whole9life.com/2012/04/probiotics-101/ What you should know about digestive enzymes http://whole9life.com/2012/09/digestive-enzymes-101/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amogino Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Thank you guys - needed just that reality check. Was nervous about imodium b/c there is sucrolose in it (third to last ingrediant) and that sounded sugar-like. Maybe its such small amount that it won't throw things off - but when you get to Day 23 you don't want to throw it all out over something yucky like imodium! As per LadyShanny - my diet those days preceeding was pretty much the same as below: Breakfast 2 cups of coffee (sometimes with small amount of compliant coconut milk; but not with this recent bout) two eggs (hate runny yolks, so they are over hard) diced sweet potatoes sauteed with ghee (about 1-T) and kale/spinach (I alternate depending on what's in garden), onions, little salt/cayenne or diced jalepeno Lunch Tuna with chopped celery, carrots, sometimes add macademia nuts or grapes/pecans, jicama, lettuce (romaine), sno peas - its loaded with vegies, whatver ones we have in the house - usually with either olive oil/vinegar OR tessamae's compliant mayo (or the one I made myself, although recent bout it's Tessamae's) OR Shrimp w/leftover cauliflower-potatoe mash (from whole30 book) and small salad with Tessamae's cracked black pepper vinagrette (compliant) Dinner Salmon w/mushrooms, salad, green beans I was worried about fats - if I'm running late from a meeting to lunch, I do have a few handfuls of macademia nuts or pistachios and dried fruit or apple slices and hard boiled eggs (in cooler if I have htose) in my bag so I don't eat my arm off or run to something that I will regret. i do like putting nuts in the tuna - maybe I need to cut that all out for a while. My plate is always loaded with vegies - but alway cooked except when I add to the tuna protein salad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuilterInVA Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You need more protein for breakfast - at least 3 eggs if no other protein is eaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted October 2, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 2, 2015 Hi Amy, nothing really stands out to me besides the nuts...which I can't see causing the intermittent distress. Check with yourself and see if those bowel issues flare up when you eat a lot more nuts than normal. Other than that, it's possible that you either got unlucky with a couple rounds of stomach "flu", that you got mild food poisoning somehow or that your body is just working to rebalance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsrose Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Days 3-4. Loose bowels. Breakfast 2 cups black coffee, egg/hamburger/mushroom/onion frittata and half an orange Lunch Greek salad (greens, tomatoes, cucumber, onion, black olive, pepperoncini, artichoke, vinaigrette) and grilled chicken breast. Dinner grilled steak, baked sweet potato roasted carrots. Pretty similar both days. ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuilterInVA Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I had the same problem for a few days at the beginning of my first whole 30. It's your body getting rid of toxins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Days 3-4. Loose bowels. Breakfast 2 cups black coffee, egg/hamburger/mushroom/onion frittata and half an orange Lunch Greek salad (greens, tomatoes, cucumber, onion, black olive, pepperoncini, artichoke, vinaigrette) and grilled chicken breast. Dinner grilled steak, baked sweet potato roasted carrots. Pretty similar both days. ?????? On the bowel issues, - raw vegetables can cause digestive distress for some. You might want to switch to all cooked veggies for a while and see if that helps. - are you consuming fats at every meal, in the recommended amounts per the meal template? - also, be sure you're drinking enough water. We recommend 1/2 an ounce of water per pound of body weight daily. Other items to point out: - Is your coffee caffeinated and are you drinking it before your meal 1? Note that caffeine can act as an appetite suppressant: we recommend consuming caffeine after your meal 1. - Was the pepperoncini compliant? A lot of pepperoncini are packaged in liquid that contains sulphites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Some more starchy veggies like sweet potato and pumpkin might be good too They work similar to immodium, but much milder. Coffee can have the opposite effect, but it doesn't work the same for everyone. If you're getting gas at all, or feeling bloated with the cramping, you might want to skip the cruciferous (eg. cauli, broccoli) veggies until it subsides, they can put extra strain on your system if it's already struggling. Hazelnuts contain less phytic elements than other nuts, so you could try switching to those if cutting nuts right out is too hard. Side note: You can make a kind of bone broth with fish too, best with fish heads and fins if you can find them, some fishmongers give them away for free. Hang in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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