Ariel Elyse Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Goodness, day 4 has been a roller coaster! I didn't feel like Killing All The Things until later today when I was home with my family, and was pleasantly distracted from any cravings by a morning of driving around and doing price comparisons for my pastured broiler operation this spring. Not that you needed to know that. But if anyone else is a Joel Salatin fan and/or has raised pastured poultry, give me a holler! I'm quite pumped about it, personally. This afternoon I ate soo much. I was hungry and didn't want to do school and had just bought some almond butter. So. I don't think I over-ate, though. I think I'm already noticing my skin clearing up. And I'm sleeping a ton! And my stomach is less bloated! Day 5, here I come!!!! Thank you to everyone who is on this January Whole30 train with me! Having so many of you pressing on to finish your Whole30s is a fantastic motivator! Several times today I considered quitting. Just being real here. But then I remembered my friends who know I committed to this, thought about how I couldn't let them down. I am not going to quit. Not this time, because I have accountability this time. Friends are such blessings, aren't they? Keep on keepin' on, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marthab Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 You have a really great summary of benefits and of tips. Thanks for sharing! April great post! thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marthab Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Day four is done and dusted. I had a dangerous brush with a loaf of hot bread and had myself talked into it, telling myself i had a stressful dy and could start again tomorrow. Then I decided to postpone the bread and only eat it if I was still craving it after my meal of spagetti sqaush and meat sauce that i made myself. Also roasted some brussel sprouts. Once I ate my meal, I was able to forget the bread. It no longer has power over me. Lessons learned. There is no more good bread in the house and don't sit in the barber chair if you don't want a haircut. Also had a sono for kidney stones and found out from the doctor that my thyroid meds need to be increased. I have been losing lots of hair and suspected that this was the cause. no results fom the sono yet. not in too much pain, hoping to keep it that way. Thanks for letting me vent! Now back to my regularly scheduled lurkdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Question. I had lunch at 12:30 and I am starting to get hungry four hours later, 4:30. I would like to eat dinner at 6 or 7. What should i do in the meantime? Should i eat a mini meal to hold me over?? Breakfast 8;30am: two eggs scrambled, broccoli and avocado Lunch 12:30pm: talapia, celery, broccoli, red peppers, sweet potato and avocado Mini meal is a great choice in this situation I think your breakfast might be too small, can you really only hold two eggs? Well, day 4 is rolling along pretty well! I did not think I would have one of those food dreams (well, a wine or scotch dram dream, perhaps) but I had such a realistic one about eating a chocolate chip cookie at someone's house that I woke up still thinking I would have to start my W30 over again. I was thrilled when I realised it was a dream - best place to eat that cookie ever! Even in the dream I was upset that I had so unconsciously eaten the thing and that it set me back to day 1. It was delicious, though. Seriously freezing out today! Back to work tomorrow bright and early, and feeling ready (at least food-wise). Will get back to the gym this week, so thanks for the conversation about the pre- and post-workout food. One thing that got me frustrated before the W30 was that I was terribly uncomfortable working out if I ate just about anything beforehand, but empty was not the greatest way to go either. I think it will go better now, but will start a bit slowly, which I hate. I want to be back where I was when working out a lot. Right Now! (pause for bratty tantrum) OK, I'll listen to my trainer and start slowly. The food dreams can be so funny I had one where I ate wood and I couldn't figure out whether it was compliant After the first week you'll probably be feeling more normal with training, the first week is the hardest. If you're hitting the wall your first week, you can try mixing in some longer style training, long walks vs short workouts, they don't require the same energy load. Had a day of 'kill all things' and headaches. And a bit of a loss of appetite, demotivated, discouraged. Felt disoriented and out of it at times today as well. Reading the timeline, sounds like this is normal, but it isn't fun. Even though I didn't get any sleep last night, I chose not to nap this afternoon. I find they can really impact my sleep later on. Yep, totally normal I find a little extra starchy veg makes you feel a little better through the KATT phase. Hey fellow W30ers....I'm a newbie here. 36 years old, father of one and currently living in Los Angeles. My wife and I started W30 today. So far so good. I'm used to the high protein/low carb lifestyle but wanted to give W30 a try for more of a cleansing effect by completely cutting out the sugar, dairy, alcohol and grain intake. My day kind of looks like this.... Morning Yoga before heading to work Black coffee for the commute Late breakfast (today was HB eggs and banana) around 10:30 Lunch WO (resistance training) Late lunch around 1:30 (today was lamb chop and mixed veggies) Dinner around 7:00 (today is beef pot roast) I'm definitely curious about the different phases and I'm hoping I maintain enough energy to keep my work out routine going. Thanks for all the support. Jared I know it probably sounds crazy Jared (ex-low carb here too) but you may not be eating enough for your workout levels. Have you read about the pre & post WO additions? It will totally help with energy levels. Side note on carbs too, I found on W30 I have a much higher carb tolerance than I did before, I think the grains and dairy were holding me back But then right when I was praising the W30.... it all went to $%^. My cold symptoms are back full force tonight and I'm crabby, short-tempered with the kids, and I feel SO BLOATED! Ugh. I just don't understand why I'm so up and down. Maybe I'm fast tracking through the timeline? Hang in there, you sound like you're almost over the hump. We don't always track along with the timeline, you can be either ahead or behind, but it helps you to know what might be coming up Eat some extra starchy veg, since you're not feeling the best and short tempered (it really helps with KATT!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Goodness, day 4 has been a roller coaster! I didn't feel like Killing All The Things until later today when I was home with my family, and was pleasantly distracted from any cravings by a morning of driving around and doing price comparisons for my pastured broiler operation this spring. Not that you needed to know that. But if anyone else is a Joel Salatin fan and/or has raised pastured poultry, give me a holler! I'm quite pumped about it, personally. This afternoon I ate soo much. I was hungry and didn't want to do school and had just bought some almond butter. So. I don't think I over-ate, though. I think I'm already noticing my skin clearing up. And I'm sleeping a ton! And my stomach is less bloated! Day 5, here I come!!!! Thank you to everyone who is on this January Whole30 train with me! Having so many of you pressing on to finish your Whole30s is a fantastic motivator! Several times today I considered quitting. Just being real here. But then I remembered my friends who know I committed to this, thought about how I couldn't let them down. I am not going to quit. Not this time, because I have accountability this time. Friends are such blessings, aren't they? Keep on keepin' on, guys! I love to buy pastured chicken so good for you! Not sure if this is normally done with pasture or not, but you can raise bugs to feed them if you want, my friend does it for frogs. Better skin Day 4, you're rocking it! Imagine how awesome it will be on Day 30! Oh. Somehow I posted twice, but I can't seem to delete this post, only edit it... Sorry about that! I think someone fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Day four is done and dusted. I had a dangerous brush with a loaf of hot bread and had myself talked into it, telling myself i had a stressful dy and could start again tomorrow. Then I decided to postpone the bread and only eat it if I was still craving it after my meal of spagetti sqaush and meat sauce that i made myself. Also roasted some brussel sprouts. Once I ate my meal, I was able to forget the bread. It no longer has power over me. Lessons learned. There is no more good bread in the house and don't sit in the barber chair if you don't want a haircut. Also had a sono for kidney stones and found out from the doctor that my thyroid meds need to be increased. I have been losing lots of hair and suspected that this was the cause. no results fom the sono yet. not in too much pain, hoping to keep it that way. Thanks for letting me vent! Now back to my regularly scheduled lurkdom. Great job Martha! Hunger + non-complaint things is my personal recipe for disaster. I like to keep some soup, eggs and quick veggies on hand If you haven't had your magnesium or Vitamin D levels checked lately, they can both affect hair as well, actually quite a few vitamins & minerals do. I hope your sono comes back with good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blmorris Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Well day 4 is done. I a headache all day, but otherwise I feel fine. I feel like I am eating to much, so I will work on portion sizes. M1- 3 scrambled eggs, 1/2 avocado, mandarin orange M2- 3/4 coconut curry chicken breast, roasted broccoli and cauliflower, apple Mini meal - 3 boiled eggs, carrot sticks, cucumber slices, snap peas M3- chili, roasted Brussels sprouts I drank lots of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blmorris Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 We can't see your palm, so that's a tough question to answer. Don't overthink this. The 1-2 palm recommendation is relative to the size of the palm of your unique individual hand: length, width and thickness. Ultimately, the gauge is your satiety: you want to get to a place where you create meals of protein, veg and fat that satiate you for 4-5 hours. Keep playing with the portion sizes until you get there. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistyfire Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Did well today. Had work meeting that went till 10:15 tonight and was glad I packed a portable dinner of cracklin' chicken, canned beets and grape tomatoes. Pizza that others ordered didn't hold a candle to my dinner. A lot of interest in why I brought my own dinner, especially as I told folks about my NSV over the past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Did well today. Had work meeting that went till 10:15 tonight and was glad I packed a portable dinner of cracklin' chicken, canned beets and grape tomatoes. Pizza that others ordered didn't hold a candle to my dinner. A lot of interest in why I brought my own dinner, especially as I told folks about my NSV over the past year. So awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaR Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Goodness, day 4 has been a roller coaster! I didn't feel like Killing All The Things until later today when I was home with my family, and was pleasantly distracted from any cravings by a morning of driving around and doing price comparisons for my pastured broiler operation this spring. Day 4 hit me the exact same way..... I thought during the day that I was doing good did not want to Kill anything until I got home..... and one of my daughters said to me a little snippy are we MOM.... LOL ! I guess I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blmorris Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Good morning all, ugh, it was hard to get out of bed this morning! I think the detox, no energy has hit. My husband, who is not doing W30, asked if it makes me crabby. So maybe W30 is affecting more than I thought! Ha ha! So I am putting on my happy face and gritting my teeth to get through today! Good luck everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XDools Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Hi - I'm new. And based in Australia so I'm a days cooking ahead of north america! And I'm bloated. Day 5 done and dusted. No major problems but still the bloating like I'm 4 months pregnant. Which isnt unusual for me, I was hoping this might alleviate the symptoms though. In everyones experience, when is the best time to take probiotics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaR Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Day 5 ..... I almost forgot yesterday I was on Whole30 when offered a little home baked treat at work. I was so busy that when I was offered it I automatically was going to take it. Thank goodness I remembered that I was doing Whole30 and said no. The funny thing is that I was not even hungry but probably would have taken it and eaten it! Pretty good insight! Feeling pretty good, a little tired this morning but other than that no other significant problems! I have a question I try to eat a good breakfast which I usually do and I am sometimes not really hungry when lunch comes. Although I do eat at lunch can I tone down the meal just due to the fact that I sometimes gag if I eat to much? Usually a salad is good for me and I can make it to supper without any hunger pangs. How is everyone else doing ? I have found a juice at Costco that ingredients are apple, lemon, ginger and beets, that is all. I had it before I began this Whole30. Is it ok if I just have a small glass occasionally? Have a Greeeeeeeeeeat Day everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djoyce Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Hey all Day four for me and it was -17.5 Degrees C (0 Deg F) here in Kingston this am and I did a workout in my garage. I have a small heater but it barely did the trick. My first three days have been "as expected". I am doing my 9th (I think) W30 and I have been there and done that a bit so I know what to expect. I have up'ed the water intake and am eating on plan. Yesterday did result in a low-grade, back of the brain headache but nothing too bad. Being back to work today... is a typical meal planning day which I will share with you. I did some prep yesterday and got ready for the week. I do a ground pork, sweet potato and veggie mash in a big batch on Sundays which is my veg/starch in my M1 and I always do Poached eggs (3) along with a piece of fruit on workout days. I also cooked up 18 compliant sausage for grab-and-go lunches. I typically have one to two salads a day with a staple salad being sliced cabbage and kale with seasonings, balsamic and EVOO. We try to do a different meal for dinner each day and leftovers for lunch the next day (or else sausage). Therefore, today's meals are: M1 - Sweet Potato mash, poached eggs (3) and a small banana M2 - 3 sausage, cabbage/kale salad and an apple M3 - big bowl of slow cooker beef stew (with root veggies, onion) I drink coffee and water throughout the day and water or mineral water at night (with an occasional herbal tea). My $0.02 on the benefits I have found from being on this plan: #1) Control over cravings - This plan gives me so much control #2) Even, clean energy - I don't know how to explain it any better than this... I don't always get tiger blood but I always get even, clean energy! #3) Cost savings - I know many complain about the costs of food being on W30 but for me it is much cheaper than eating out, take-out (2-3 times per week) and processed food that is pre-made. #4) Alertness - You don't know you are in a fog until it lifts. I really notice an enhanced ability to focus, pay attention and be productive when on this program #5) Reduced aches and pains - I am only 44 years old but I definitely am not 25 anymore. I really benefit from reduced aches and pains. I have to admit that this is a real reason for doing this W30, this time because I am feeling a little worn down right now. #6) Improved sleep - I know that many are noting poor sleep in the forum but better sleep will come (for many) and it is glorious. #7) Weight loss - I typically lose between 8 and 12 lbs in my first 30 days on W30. #8) Clearer skin - I don't have much of an issue but do get some pimples on my back as I age... they go away when on the program. A few simple tricks or advice on success with the program: - Unless you are Martha Stewart or Jamie Oliver, the most common complaint which start about day 12 or so is meal prep and dishes exhaustion. I would highly recommend keeping it simple. Don't try to make 15 "Well Fed" or "Nom Nom Paleo" meals in your first couple of weeks. Doing too many complex meals is hard work and can result in much higher expenses on the plan. Pick one or two each week you want to try, make extra for leftovers and don't lose sight that a big salad and some grilled protein is a simple meal that will pull you through on days when you have zero interest in cooking another complex meal. - In the first week or so (where energy can be lacking), use a crock pot, BBQ or other easy cooking method. Today, I am coming home from work and I know I will have a crock pot full of stew and I don't need to do too much to get dinner on the table. - Batch cook where possible to ensure you have good food on hand and making food prep easier and more convenient. - Find 2-3 breakfasts and lunch options that you like and keep them stocked in your fridge/pantry. This way you always have an easy fall-back when either your cooking creativity/enthusiasm is lacking or your "don't know what to make". I eat eggs for breakfast almost every day but I have found that eggs for dinner (no matter how big the omelette) leave me hungry all night. As such, I use eggs as my AM protein and do other options for dinner. - Use the food template from W30. I really have to work towards veggies in my M1. It does help but I don't beat myself up if I have to skip my veggies in M1 (typically my most hectic meal of the day) but I always make sure I have lots in M2 and M3. If you are hungry... Eat more (using the template). One egg or three egg whites are not enough protein for a typical adult. Don't use the spritzer to put EVOO on your salad, make sure you pour at least one tablespoon. Egg and Fat phobia are holdovers from the food pyramid days of low fat, high carbs. Fat is your friend. - Free range and pasture fed meats and fowl can be costly. Do what you can afford. I am lucky that one of my local butchers sells local, pasture raised beef and pork and free range chicken and eggs. His prices are reasonable. However, I don't worry too much if I buy meat or chicken at my regular grocery shopping store. I do what I can do and suggest you do the same. It is a question of good, better and best rather than good vs bad. I am sure I will have more to add later but I wanted to contribute to the forum a bit in the early days when a positive light is typically most needed. I firmly believe in this way of eating and encourage you all to stick with it through the first 2-3 weeks. It is well worth the effort for me!!! Cheers DJ Cannot believe I forgot the other big benefit that is almost instantaneous: #9) No need for Tums - Within one or two days of starting W30, I have absolutely no need for any Tums or other ant-acid products. During the "holiday" season, I was taking 3-4 tums a night just to be able to get to sleep. January 1st (Day one) was the first night in weeks that I did not need to take tums in over 3 weeks before bed. I have not needed any since!!! Big win this one! Cheers DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djoyce Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'd love to know what the compliant sausage is or where you get them? Thanks! Well I have 3 options here locally for me. I have a local butcher that makes local, grass-fed, pasture raised beef and pork and he makes his own sausage in house. Some of his sausages have sweeteners (e.g. maple or honey) in them but many do not. He also make a lamb sausage that I really enjoy but it is pricey so I don't do this often. I have two brands of sausage in my local "Metro" supermarket that do not use any breadcrumbs, sugar or "other" additives in their sausage. I don't have the name brands handy but one is their own sausage line. Only the mild or hot Italian sausage are compliant (again I cannot buy the maple or honey garlic). The big issue is both bread crumbs and sweeteners. Many sausage companies (main stream production) add these to bind and flavour the meat but, they are really not necessary (in my opinion) and knock them off this plan. Some of the "compliant" sausage use powdered white vinegar as a substitute seasoning instead of sugar or honey. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPdub Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Hello! I'm a little late to the party (and still catching up on this thread) but I started on 1/3. This is my 2nd round, completed my first in November and had good results! Like others here I relaxed over the holidays and gained back 5 of the 8 lbs I had lost, plus started feeling u healthy again. I'm mid-40s and dealing with a sluggish metabolism. W30 was the first program that has worked for me in a long time, and it definitely changed my mindset! I CAN get healthier and even lose a little weight at this age! I was seriously beginnining to think it was impossible. My goals this time are to add more exercise (I did very little last time around!) and have more green tea vs. coffee. I know coffee is okay but I tend to feel better when I cut back, and I'm a big believer in the benefits of green tea. My mom is also doing her first W30 and I can't wait to see her experience the magic! Good luck to everyone and stay W30 STRONG! ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMom Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Day #5 today! Started my second Whole30 Jan 1st- headache on day3 but it's now gone. Less bloating, less daytime hunger. Good luck to all and stay STRONG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted January 5, 2016 Administrators Share Posted January 5, 2016 There is no more good bread in the house and don't sit in the barber chair if you don't want a haircut. Haha, I love this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted January 5, 2016 Administrators Share Posted January 5, 2016 Well day 4 is done. I a headache all day, but otherwise I feel fine. I feel like I am eating to much, so I will work on portion sizes. M1- 3 scrambled eggs, 1/2 avocado, mandarin orange M2- 3/4 coconut curry chicken breast, roasted broccoli and cauliflower, apple Mini meal - 3 boiled eggs, carrot sticks, cucumber slices, snap peas M3- chili, roasted Brussels sprouts I drank lots of water. I don't think you're eating too much, the fact you are having a 3-egg mini meal tells me that you aren't actually eating enough (or that there is a huge gap between your lunch and dinner. My suggestion would be first to add some veggies to breakfast and second to leave off the fruits if you feel like you are getting overfull at your meals. What's your general meal timing like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted January 5, 2016 Administrators Share Posted January 5, 2016 Did well today. Had work meeting that went till 10:15 tonight and was glad I packed a portable dinner of cracklin' chicken, canned beets and grape tomatoes. Pizza that others ordered didn't hold a candle to my dinner. A lot of interest in why I brought my own dinner, especially as I told folks about my NSV over the past year. Just a quick check on those canned beets. I don't know that I have ever come across any that weren't canned with some sort of sweetener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted January 5, 2016 Administrators Share Posted January 5, 2016 I have a question I try to eat a good breakfast which I usually do and I am sometimes not really hungry when lunch comes. Although I do eat at lunch can I tone down the meal just due to the fact that I sometimes gag if I eat to much? Usually a salad is good for me and I can make it to supper without any hunger pangs. I have found a juice at Costco that ingredients are apple, lemon, ginger and beets, that is all. I had it before I began this Whole30. Is it ok if I just have a small glass occasionally? Your question regarding breakfast and lunch. You definitely should eat both meals. What are you eating for breakfast? Are your breakfast and lunch around 4-5 hours apart? You can scale your lunch if you need to but make sure you are always eating protein, fat and veggies and never less than the meal template. Your question regarding juice. We heavily discourage drinking any sort of juice while on the Whole30. Liquid food is not processed the same as food that you chew and it messes with satiety, cravings & blood sugar. Stick with eating the foods and save the juice for using a splash in your water or until after your Whole30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Hi - I'm new. And based in Australia so I'm a days cooking ahead of north america! And I'm bloated. Day 5 done and dusted. No major problems but still the bloating like I'm 4 months pregnant. Which isnt unusual for me, I was hoping this might alleviate the symptoms though. In everyones experience, when is the best time to take probiotics? If you'd like to list a few days worth of your food/liquid intake, indicating portion sizes, along with sleep/stress/activity levels we can take a look and maybe help you troubleshoot. Some bloating is not uncommon, and a digestive enzyme or the inclusion of a probiotic like sauerkraut may also help, but it may well be that you are sensitive to something you are eating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4windsrider Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Does anyone know if there is a way to find just "your own" posts somewhere in this topic? I'm interested to see what I posted on Day 1 but can't "find myself" anywhere ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosecord Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I never got around to posting yesterday but I day was good until dinner time. Life got crazy and so I didnt eat dinner until 7:30 pm which is really late for me and too long between meals, but at least I held out for my own Whole30 meal! I started a headache almost immediately afterwards and I've had it all night and today I'm not really hungry today and so eating my meals has felt like a chore. I think I finally got the "yuckies" . M1 - Spinach, Broccoli, onions, mushroom and sausage fritata, avocado, and strawberries. M2 - Zuchini Noodles and marinara sauce, avocado and grilled steak M3 - (havent eaten it yet) Ground Turkey picadillo with olives over Cauliflower rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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