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AimeeG

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I don't much like plain green or black tea, but I like a lot of the "fruit" teas, some of which are green or white teas.

 

Locally I can get this brand English Tea Shop which has some wonderful tasty teas:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YIBWAUK?psc=1 (always read the label, ingredients can vary by location and batch)

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Lots of herbal teas are great with no added sweetener. However, even ordinary black tea can be surprisingly satisfying with no sweetener after your taste buds have recovered from the excess of sugar an ordinary diet provides. 

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l just dug into the back of my pantry and found several cans of Republic of Tea teas.  One is a Red Velvet Cake herbal tea.  It has no sugars, and has "natural vanilla and chocolate flavors".  I like something sweet after dinner;  would this be a better choice than a couple of dried figs?

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Sweets and sugar are really not a problem for me;  I don't crave them and never have.  

 

 I like something sweet after dinner;  would this be a better choice than a couple of dried figs?

You may want to try considering not having the sweet tea or figs after dinner.  I know you said it's not a problem for you, but you might be surprised after removing them just how much you were leaning on them... 

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Thank you Sugarcube.  Please know that I'm not trying to be argumentative, although I know that it will sound that way.   I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind your statement.  If dried fruit is compliant, in limited amounts, then why is it not acceptable to have one or two dried figs a day?  As to the tea, what's the difference between my chocolate flavored herbal tea and the Mojito Marmalade tea mentioned in another post here?  And lastly, what do you mean by "leaning on them"?  

 

I truly do appreciate everyone's help, but I'm one of those people who have to understand the "why" of something.

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Thank you Sugarcube. Please know that I'm not trying to be argumentative, although I know that it will sound that way. I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind your statement. If dried fruit is compliant, in limited amounts, then why is it not acceptable to have one or two dried figs a day? As to the tea, what's the difference between my chocolate flavored herbal tea and the Mojito Marmalade tea mentioned in another post here? And lastly, what do you mean by "leaning on them"?

I truly do appreciate everyone's help, but I'm one of those people who have to understand the "why" of something.

There's compliant and there's optimal choices.

We don't want you habitually having something sweet after dinner, just because you have a craving or it's what you've always done. Use the Whole30 as an opportunity to ask yourself if you are truly hungry. (Litmus test: could you eat something bland like steamed fish and broccoli?) If yes, we recommend having a mini meal of protein, carb and fat, or at least two of those sources. Avoid having fruit by itself, especially dried fruit, which can feed the sugar dragon. If no, do something non-food related instead.

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Thank you Sugarcube.  Please know that I'm not trying to be argumentative, although I know that it will sound that way.   I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind your statement.  If dried fruit is compliant, in limited amounts, then why is it not acceptable to have one or two dried figs a day?  As to the tea, what's the difference between my chocolate flavored herbal tea and the Mojito Marmalade tea mentioned in another post here?  And lastly, what do you mean by "leaning on them"?  

 

I truly do appreciate everyone's help, but I'm one of those people who have to understand the "why" of something.

Chris answered this perfectly but I'll just answer your questions too as it was me that said the statement.

First, you don't sound argumentative at all... we love when people ask questions and want to learn and especially when they're so polite as you are!

Dried fruit in limited amounts is compliant... chopped up on a salad for instance... It's not that it's not acceptable to have the figs, it's more of what Chris said already... that your habit of wanting something sweet after dinner is a habit that is worth trying to break. There is nothing inherently wrong with the tea (assuming complaint ingredients). It was more your statement that surely it must be better than the figs, which led me to believe the figs (or after dinner sweet if you will) were something that you might want to look at.

Lastly, leaning on... also known as propping up a sugar craving... which you say you don't have. So I challenge you to put the dried fruit away unless it's being eaten as part of a meal (like the condiemtn on a salad). Sometimes we have little things that seem innocuous that we 'lean on' so that we don't have to be bored or uncomfortable or figety etc... not saying that's you, but until you put that after dinner habit aside, it's hard to know.

Basically all of this to say that because you were awesome and signed up to take on this challenge, we want you to have the best possible results... sometimes that means that we suggest things like putting after dinner sweets aside so you can gain some distance and perspective about why you want/need it. And to be honest, if after the 30 days you go back to having the 2 figs because it didn't make a lick of difference to you one way or the other but you like the dang figs, then GREAT! But you won't know if it makes a lick of difference or not until you take that step back...

Does that make more sense?

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Sugarcube, Thank you, thank you, thank you!  Yes, it makes perfect sense, and I so appreciate that you get my need to understand why I'm doing something.  I was afraid that I was having the "Kill all the things" day yesterday, as this just annoyed the heck out of me, and I tried so hard to ask my question diplomatically, when I really just wanted to scream!  :angry: 

So....I'll quit with the figs;  I'll even put them in the freezer in the garage so that I have to think really hard about having one.  (I did have only one after dinner last night, instead of two.)

 

And I'm getting ready to eat my breakfast, within an hour of waking up, and I am actually hungry, so that's working too.  ;)

 

Thank you again.  Week one is almost in the books.  :D

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I truly do appreciate everyone's help, but I'm one of those people who have to understand the "why" of something.

 

Have you read "It Starts With Food?" It is the science behind the program and why things are recommended. I got the book for my Kindle on Amazon and then purchased it as an audiobook on Audible. I prefer the audio book because you can see where the Hartwigs put the emphasis instead of interpreting it for yourself.  It really clarified things for me. By the way, you can get a free book when you sign up for Audible. Then after you download it you can cancel your subscription and pay nothing. I have been an Audible member for years.

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Have you read "It Starts With Food?" It is the science behind the program and why things are recommended. I got the book for my Kindle on Amazon and then purchased it as an audiobook on Audible. I prefer the audio book because you can see where the Hartwigs put the emphasis instead of interpreting it for yourself.  It really clarified things for me. By the way, you can get a free book when you sign up for Audible. Then after you download it you can cancel your subscription and pay nothing. I have been an Audible member for years.

I've started reading it, but haven't finished.  I guess I need to do that!   :)

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