Shallot Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Hi Community! I'm on day 3 of my second whole30...and I'm feeling discouraged. I came home last night hungry, and sick of the idea of meat already (I think I ate too much pork at lunch trying to squash any cravings) and I went for the almond butter. First with a cut up apple, then with dried apricots dipped straight into the jar...and then I felt better. My body was happy, but I felt discouraged. This is not whole30 behavior, and I considered starting over, but thought I would reach out for support. Has anyone had similar experiences? Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted March 30, 2016 Moderators Share Posted March 30, 2016 You don't need to start over, if that helps at all. Behaviors and feelings about food are hard to change. Go easy on yourself. It's going to be okay. Let's talk about what you can do to prevent this in the future. First, the idea of eating more to not crave later is sound. How long do you typically have between lunch and dinner? If it's more than 4-5 hours, go ahead and plan for a mini meal between the two. Take some extra food to work and have that, maybe take a couple of minutes to sit in your car or wherever you can once you leave work to decompress and eat a little bit. Maybe a hard boiled egg, some mayo, and some raw vegetables. More than likely you don't need a lot at this point to get you through until dinner. If you have less than five hours between lunch and dinner, a bigger lunch may help. But instead of just increasing protein, add some extra fat. Olives or avocado or some extra mayo, in addition to what you've been using. Aside from food, pay attention to how you're feeling when you start having the almond butter. Were you just hungry, or were you stressed or angry or sad or bored? If there's an emotional component, sometimes you just have to let yourself feel that and deal with it, even if it's uncomfortable at that moment. In the long run it's better to deal with those things instead of ignoring them or pushing them aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 If you ever come home and aren't keen on the idea of meat, there's always the option of having "breakfast for dinner", scrambled eggs or an omelette. Blended soups are another way to have protein in a different form (made with either meat or eggs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenmidge Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I started snacking on cashews last weekend and havn't stopped all week. I think they're feeding my sugar dragon. I'm not hungry and proved that today by having a Huge lunch but still reached for the nuts about an hour later. Sounds weird cos no one is forcing them into me but me, but I do wish I could get back control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted April 1, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 1, 2016 You can get back in control. Jenmidge doesn't eat nuts. It doesn't matter if they're yummy or there, Jenmidge doesn't eat them. Say that to yourself and then there's no concern about whether you're hungry or bored... doesn't matter.. Jenmidge doesn't eat nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I started snacking on cashews last weekend and havn't stopped all week. I think they're feeding my sugar dragon. I'm not hungry and proved that today by having a Huge lunch but still reached for the nuts about an hour later. Sounds weird cos no one is forcing them into me but me, but I do wish I could get back control. Cashews are actually the carbiest of all nuts and as such can be as addictive as sugar to anyone who has a sugar dragon to tame. As SugarCube has said though jenmidge doesn't eat nuts Have a think about what you were thinking or how you were feeling when you reached for them last time & then develop a new reaction to that trigger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenmidge Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 thank you, this is what I needed. I have just crushed up the remainder of my cashews and put them out for the garden birds. Snacking is something I do mostly when procrastinating or stressed. I've been thinking about alternative "reactions" as suggested and to begin to break a lifetime habit, my new strategy is going to be 2-3 mins exercise every time I feel like a snack, even if I need to lock myself in the loo at work and do star jumps . Feeling quite positive about this so thanks again guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Also, may be unrelated, but I find my cravings for nuts increases when I forget to take my magnesium supplement. If you're not taking one, unsweetened natural calm is quite popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenmidge Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Also, may be unrelated, but I find my cravings for nuts increases when I forget to take my magnesium supplement. If you're not taking one, unsweetened natural calm is quite popular. Hmmm, you've prompted me to read up on symptoms of magnesium deficiency. I don't particularly have trouble sleeping which seems to be the most common; I have a stressful job though and see that chronic stress can deplete magnesium levels - which leads to anxiety (unhealthy cycle!) therefore mine could be low even though I eat tons of mag rich dark leafy veg. So raising my magnesium intake is definitely worth a shot because chronic stress can be life limiting, not to mention the affect on my weight from obsessive (stress induced) snacking. I'm very lazy when it comes to taking supplements and almost always end up throwing them away because they go out of date but I'm going to give them a go and look forward to seeing the results. :-) thank you, this forum is simply the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannlib Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 thank you, this is what I needed. I have just crushed up the remainder of my cashews and put them out for the garden birds. Snacking is something I do mostly when procrastinating or stressed. I've been thinking about alternative "reactions" as suggested and to begin to break a lifetime habit, my new strategy is going to be 2-3 mins exercise every time I feel like a snack, even if I need to lock myself in the loo at work and do star jumps . Feeling quite positive about this so thanks again guys. Good for you! I have an additional whole 30 rule that I don't eat between meals. I'm able to build my meals so they hold me 5 hours and I KNOW I don't need snacks. I also know that fruit, nuts and nut butters do not serve me well - I use these only as integral parts of meals. If I know I've eaten a bit light at meal 1 or 2 and am not getting meal 3 till later I'll sometimes plug the gap with a hard boiled egg and a dollop of mayo. But only if I'm HUNGRY. These additional rules help me. I treat them in the same way I do the no grains/ dairy etc rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 If you do get hungry in between meals, you may find a mini meal (template ratios) works better (protein/veg/fat) as there's no fruit and helps keep your blood sugar steady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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