Day 11 and I want to eat all the bad things and kill all the things

[Greanbean76]

Yesterday was day 10 and it was SO HARD! I thought about quitting several times. Well not quitting per se but having a small cheat - diet dr. pepper and a cupcake. I didn't do it but today is not any easier  I made it through but I am really hitting a wall. I'm tired of cooking, I'm tired of not eating anything that I WANT. I know that I'm doing a good thing for my body. I can tell, my joint pain is less and I definitely feel better but being so strict is just beginning to make me sad. 

 

Someone, anyone talk me off the ledge!

[SugarcubeOD]

 Well not quitting per se but having a small cheat - diet dr. pepper and a cupcake. 

Hi Greenbean... sorry to break it to you but intentional consumption of diet dr. pepper and a cupcake is definitely a quit...

 

So... because we don't want you to quit and I KNOW you don't want to quit, how about you list out what you've been eating for a few days including portion sizes, specific veggies, protein and fats, fluid consumption, sleep and anything else that you think is relevant...

 

When it becomes THIS hard, its usually because the meals are not sufficient to keep you full and satiated so lets take a look and see what we can do to get you off the ledge!

 

And GOOD FOR YOU for not doing it!

[Karen_Suep]

I totally get you for not wanting to cook! Some things to make it easier? If you have a whole foods near you, sometimes they'll have compliant rotisserie chickens so all you need are veggies and fats. That can give you a small break from cooking. Also finding canned compliant fish or chicken can help some too. I also don't get as overwhelmed cooking if I do a giant batch of veggies and proteins once (maybe twice) a week

[Greanbean76]

So as soon as you said that I looked at my journal for yesterday and realized that I probably didn't eat enough. I didn't feel hungry for anything Whole30 approved so I just didn't eat much at all

 

6/2

meal 1: 5 oz pork sausage, 1 sweet potato, black coffee

meal 2: fruit (watermelon, mango, grapes, cantaloupe, pineapple) handful of cashews

meal 3: 2 chicken thighs, brussel sprouts

 

6/3

meal 1: 2 bacon wrapped chicken tenders, apple

meal 2: 2 cans albacore tuna mixed with homemade mayo onions and peppers, 4 romaine leaves (for wrapping) 3 pickles, mango and cherries (eating now)

meal 3: brisket, butternut squash, brocolli

 

6/1

meal 1: apple, almond butter, black coffee

meal 2: 5oz of ground turkey a good handful of kale, cooked down, watermelon

snack: lemon larabar

meal 3: wilted spinach salad with 5 oz shrimp, 4 pieces complaint bacon, assorted veggies and homemade vinagrette (not sure of amounts but filled a dinner plate)

 

[Karen_Suep]

Meals should always have protein, fats (preferably not nuts or seeds) and veggies. Fruit as the whole basis of a meal is going to feed the sugar dragon and sabotage your results. Eating a small amount of fruit is ok (think of apples and grapes in a chicken salad or orange segments on a giant spring salad) but they should never push veggies off your plate.

So try looking at the templates and use that to help compose the rest of your meals

[SugarcubeOD]

So as soon as you said that I looked at my journal for yesterday and realized that I probably didn't eat enough. I didn't feel hungry for anything Whole30 approved so I just didn't eat much at all

 

6/2

meal 1: 5 oz pork sausage, 1 sweet potato, black coffee Fat?  Non starchy veggies? Is 5oz of sausage the size of your palm? 

meal 2: fruit (watermelon, mango, grapes, cantaloupe, pineapple) handful of cashews veggies?? protein? Nuts are to be limited

meal 3: 2 chicken thighs, brussel sprouts fats? how does 2 chicken thighs relate to the size of your own palm?

 

6/3

meal 1: 2 bacon wrapped chicken tenders, apple Veggies??  Not enough food in general.

meal 2: 2 cans albacore tuna mixed with homemade mayo onions and peppers, 4 romaine leaves (for wrapping) 3 pickles, mango and cherries (eating now) better!

meal 3: brisket, butternut squash, brocolli fat??

 

6/1

meal 1: apple, almond butter, black coffee Protein, veggies??

meal 2: 5oz of ground turkey a good handful of kale, cooked down, watermelon Fat?

snack: lemon larabar These are approved for emergencies only... 

meal 3: wilted spinach salad with 5 oz shrimp, 4 pieces complaint bacon, assorted veggies and homemade vinagrette (not sure of amounts but filled a dinner plate) sounds good!

I put my comments at each individual meal.

You really need to take a look at the meal template and make your meals match... if you're not sure of how to apply the meal template, let me know and we can help you... I would be homicidal if I had only eaten that much in the last two or three days... 

Please honor your body and eat more... fruit is 1-2 servings per day, eaten WITH a meal, not as a meal and nuts and their butters are meant to be limited (think a closed handful once every other day at most).

 

Not feeling hungry is a self fullfilling prophesy... you don't feel hungry so you don't eat so your body slows down metabolism and your hunger signals, so you don't feel hungry and don't eat.... plate up three template meals a day and eat them... if you can't physically make yourself eat the whole thing, wrap it up and eat from it again as soon as you feel you can keep it down... don't wait to be hungry... this is your hormones out of balance and the only way to balance them is to eat.

[Greanbean76]

I may need help with the templates, not really sure. I will have to look at them again. I do have a question though, does the fat in the meat (the sausage specifically) not count? I didn't add extra but cooked the potatoes in the sausage fat. I'm having a hard time adding in fat. I don't know what to add. Like for tonights dinner brisket and broccoli. What else can I add? This morning. I was full after the chicken tenders and apples. I brought 4 tenders and didn't even eat them.

 

Oh and yes, 2 thighs is about equal to my palm

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[Karen_Suep]

Fat is in addition to meat fat and cooking fat. For tonight, try compliant ranch or mayo based sauce? Also olives, coconut, rendered fats (lard, tallow, duck fat etc) are good to add too. If you can't finish a template meal, set it aside until the next time you are able to eat.

[SugarcubeOD]

Avocado, olives, mayo, mayo based sauces, ghee on the plated veggies, pesto, lard, tallow, schmaltz... we generally don't count the cooking fat because it often gets left in the pan and divided up among servings so you should be adding additional fat.  The fact that you're hungry (want to eat all the things) tells me that you're not eating enough.  For the science of it, fat slows the absorption of protein into your body so it's what gives your meals the staying power... 

 

So if two thighs is equal to your palm, that's one serving... that's the MINIMUM you want to eat for protein.

 

Leave the fruit alone until you've eaten the veggies, protein and fat... fruit is eaten as a condiment with the meal

[Greanbean76]

Thank you ladies, I will try. Honestly the thought of eating more than 2 thighs and adding fat like that makes me feel nauseous but I will take the weekend to regroup. Maybe add some ghee to my veggies tonight and go from there

[CaGirl]

Get brave and make a batch of HOME MADE MAYO!  Plop a good heaping dollop on your Broccoli…  YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY

 

My mayo is

 

large egg, fresh out of the fridge or off the counter

a little less than a tsp of kosher salt

tsp + ground pepper 

Lots of Granulated Garlic

2 TBLS  apple cider vinegar 

1 cup LIGHT olive oil

 

In that order/ into a large mason Jar

 

let thing's  settle for  a sec then put your stick blender at the bottom and fire it up..  Leave it down at the bottom of the jar for a good while, slowly brining it up to the top…..  Then up and down it a few times if it looks like it needs it..   

 

GOOD LUCK  

ENJOY

Have FUN

[pipes]

I want to add in here that I love that homemade mayo (LOVE) but I don't like it with olive oil.  Even the light stuff.  I only like it with avocado oil (that's the other kind I have).  No matter how "light" I always think the olive oil makes it taste weird.

 

Anyway, that's my thought.  Putting that mayo on stuff...salad, other veggies feels DECADENT and it only takes two minutes to make.

 

I feel like you.  I've had a rough few days, and I'm REALLY feeling the need to cover the bad feelings with sugar dragon.  Sometimes it's not about whether you're satiated at a meal but how your mental state is.  At least--that's been my days 9-11!!  I'm also having headaches in the afternoon.  Mysterious and confusing.  It might be stress but my old treatment for that is a diet coke and a piece of chocolate.  So I'm looking for non-food treatments.

 

You can do this.  If I can do it, you can

[Greanbean76]

Pipes! Yes, you get what I'm saying. It's not about hunger or satiation. It's my mental state. It is been a poopie week and my go to has always been Diet Dr. Pepper and ice cream or something else sweet.

I am trying and I will continue to do my best but when I'm this stressed food is my friend. I know it's not really but I've got 40 years of my friend and 11 days of the Whole30. Thy said I'm going to revisit the templates and try to do better

[jmcbn]

...I'm also having headaches in the afternoon.  Mysterious and confusing.  It might be stress but my old treatment for that is a diet coke and a piece of chocolate.  So I'm looking for non-food treatments...

Non food treatments might work, but fat is your friend here, particularly for headaches. The brain is made up of 60% fat - you need fat for brain health.

[katiebranson]

Greenbean - I totally relate. I'm on day 8 and I understand I'm getting to this feed late, but I'm going to kill all the things, and I'll be lucky if it doesn't happen today. I don't want to eat anything, I don't want to do anything, and I surely don't want anyone telling me to eat fat and protein and blah blah blah. 

 

The rest of you - I don't like protein. Truly. Protein before these 8 days of hell were beans, peanut butter...and I guess that's it. It doesn't do much for me to eat chicken with veggies and salmon with veggies and what-the-hell-ever with veggies. I don't like veggies either. I like potatoes - but I truly don't want to eat anything because it doesn't taste good, doesn't feel good and I'm hungry hours later and still can't wait to get my hands on coffee creamer and ice cream - because you best bet your butts on day 31 I'm eating EVERYTHING. 

 

I hate this today, and for the last 6 days. (First two weren't bad) and I'd like to add that the book doesn't tell you to watch how many nuts you eat, not to eat fruit "try much" (which I think is bull) or to eat so much protein you want to vomit. Name me one person that wants to eat a steak, broccoli with only olive oil and a half a potato because god forbid you choose a potato over asparagus. Don't get me started on how time consuming, expensive and boring this entire thing is. I'm not happy today. Catch me on a good day and you may actually like me - but I'm not trying for friends today, I'm trying to not eat cheerios and blame the entire whole30 program for my constant headache and ongoing palpitations (existing condition - and no, I'm not overweight or diabetic. I'm 26 and 'healthy').

 

I won't apologize for the rant. Either you got it or my boyfriend did - and at least you all know how this goes. 

 

[LucieB]

This is a rant safe area, and wow wee that was a doozy! Sorry I'm laughing at your unhappiness, but many of us here likely see ourselves at one point in what you're saying.

It helps to remind yourself of WHY you are doing a whole 30, the goals you hope to achieve and the things you will learn.

You feel miserable about food in part bc your brain is throwing a temper tantrum. It wants the sugar hit or dopamine hit or whatever satisfaction it derived from your previous foods. Don't blame whole30 for your cheerio cravings and headache blame your brain and foods you used to eat. These feelings are kinda proof at how those old foods propped you up!

Things get easier. And food is so much more than protein plus fat plus veggie. But you're already learning this, as evidenced by your cravings and withdrawals. if it's just protein or carbs, why do you crave it so much? Just some food for thought. No pun intended!

[CaGirl]

Katiebranson YOURE MY HERO today..   You go girl… SO refreshing to read something not sugar coated nor on robotic response..

 

i messed up last night and had a bowl of Raisin bran.. YES today is Day one.. AGAIN!!!!!!

 

Love your writing girl… hope to see more!