Well that was educational....I want W30 back now.

[Theheartoverflows]

I stayed compliant while testing foods out. This was all over a 9 day period.

Added back in my coconut oil cooking spray morning of day 31--which has soy in it. Had my first headache in weeks. Buh bye soy.

Moved on to popcorn popped in coconut oil for a family movie night. All night, had gas pains like you wouldn't believe. Felt like someone stabbing me in the gut. Alright, I get it. Corn's out.

I've known for 15 years now I have a gluten intolerance, but have largely ignored it and dealt with the consequences. Well, I made granola bars for the kids (oatmeal--not the gluten free kind, chocolate chips with no soy, sunflower seeds, almond butter, and honey). Popped half a bar in my mouth.....and 10 minutes later was in the bathroom. Ugh. So not worth it. Gluten, I'm breaking up with you for sure this time.

Then the shocker. Had fajitas for dinner. Just had a bowl of the chicken and veggies, Whole30 compliant except with maybe a tablespoon of sour cream and 1/8 cup of cheddar. Couldn't even get the kitchen cleaned up after before I ended up in the bathroom again. Et tu, dairy? Woke up today, the morning after, dragging and had super bad brain fog all day long. I feel so betrayed.

So it's clear to me soy, corn, gluten and dairy my enemies. Today I admittedly pouted and mourned all the things I can no longer have.

Am I glad I now know for sure these foods don't like me? Yep. Do I kinda wish I could go back to the whole ignorance is bliss so I could enjoy my bowl of popcorn with a movie and have a big bowl of Blue Bell ice cream when I go home to visit family this summer? Yep.....but after feeling awesome that last week and a half of W30, I want it back dang it. I haven't missed pb or other legumes or non-gluten grains, so I'm not interested in adding them back into my diet now. I'm managing fine without them (though there were times during w30 I missed them, I don't now.

Now the question is where to go from here. Thinking of restarting this Saturday just to regain control of when and how much I eat. Eating the "make me feel bad" foods has me not wanting to eat at all. I really, REALLY struggled with that today. Dinner is the only full meal I ate and I had to force myself to eat that. So, it sounds like now my W30 (or longer) needs to be about getting a healthier relationship with food now that I know which foods I need to forever break up with. I've found myself snacking on foods that are technically compliant in their ingredients but not all that great for me (energy bites made with dates as an entire meal comes to mind). So I've teetered off the tracks a bit. Hopefully it won't be too hard to get back on them.

[Leigh Anne]

Hi! We were both in the "Starting May 9" group, right? My reintros have been very eye-opening, too. Yogurt bothered me, but ice cream didn't. Non-gluten grains were OK, as were legumes. Yesterday I had a sandwich. Wow! Not good. I will not have gluten again any time soon. I still want to try dairy products again. I haven't had cheese yet.

I got Mel Joulwan's cookbooks, Well Fed and Well Fed 2. She makes the point that her kitchen is 100% compliant. Only when she goes out does she have non-compliant foods, and of course, she knows how they will affect her and decides whether or not it's worth the consequences. Making it easy to stay compliant at home makes a lot of sense to me.

[ladyshanny]

Finding out that all the foods that are pushed on us (gluten, corn, soy, dairy) and which are commonly subsidised by the government, go figure, are bad for us is upsetting.  It's upsetting because you have routines or rituals around them and it's upsetting because now that you have healed your gut, you're finding out just how you've been duped all these years.  

 

There is definitely a mourning period, for sure.  If I were you I would go back to Whole30 until I felt better again and then, if you want to, try reintroing some of these items more specifically.  Reintro different types of dairy separately (casein and whey).  Reintro sweet fresh corn on the cob (if you care to) separate from, say, corn tortillas.  I know that popcorn was the first indication, years and years ago, that maybe grains and their ilk weren't good for me. Stabbing, awful stomach pains and gas I couldn't pass.  Fun stuff.....especially when the only time I ate popcorn was on Friday nights with my new at the time boyfriend before weekend sleepovers.  Gah, gross.

[QuilterInVA]

Oatmeal doesn't have gluten. Gluten grains are wheat, rye, and barley. You may have a reaction to the protein in other grains. I have celiac disease and when I still had symptoms after being gluten free, further testing showed me to be allergic to the protein in all grains.

[praxisproject]

I have trouble with all of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolamin (wholegrain anything is the worst)

 

Seem to be okay with buckwheat but really don't each much flour stuff anymore.

 

It gets easier once you accept that some things make you feel sick, once your brain makes that connection with "this makes us feel sick", it doesn't feel much like missing out, more like issue avoided

 

There are plenty of delicious foods without these things, it just takes a bit of time to find new favourites.

[Robin R.]

On 6/24/2016 at 7:13 PM, QuilterInVA said:

Oatmeal doesn't have gluten. Gluten grains are wheat, rye, and barley. You may have a reaction to the protein in other grains. I have celiac disease and when I still had symptoms after being gluten free, further testing showed me to be allergic to the protein in all grains.

Pure oatmeal does not contain gluten. However, most oatmeal brands on the market today are not pure — they contain oats that have been cross-contaminated with a tiny amount of wheat, barley, and/or rye.Jun 15, 2016

[praxisproject]

This info is specifically for coeliacs, in Australia, oats are legally not allowed to be labelled gluten free (GF in Australia also allows zeroPPM, not 20PPM which is allowed in the USA).

http://www.coeliac.org.au/faqs/
http://www.coeliac.org.au/uploads/65701/ufiles/Position_Statements/CAPSOats.pdf

This is just one reason why labels/laws are confusing across countries, they can be radically different.
Imported gluten free in the USA has to be relabelled for sale in Australia, to ensure compliance with local laws.

[PatGLex]

Found this topic interesting. I just finished a Whole 30 last week, and I did a gluten test first, on Thursday. Yes, I know, it was recommended to go last. But my mom was dying to make me my birthday cake (family tradition) and since my birthday happened while on the Whole 30 I agreed to have dinner with her once it was over. So I did gluten at each meal. Breakfast was a scone. Experienced, as someone put it delicately above, "gastric distress." :-) Lunch was a roast beef wrap (tomato wrap) with lettuce, tomato, pickle. No problems . . . but I wonder if it was because the tortilla wrap was a combo? Dinner was . . . spaghetti / bread / cake. Gastric distress again. So I saw why they said "don't line up your reintroductions" because I definitely felt bad for a few days going back to Whole 30. (And yes, I know I mixed sweet/sugar/cake with gluten, but I've not had any "sugar dragon" results and haven't had any desire for desserts/sweets/candy.) I've stayed away from doing anything else and may end up doing a "once a week" introduction for the various categories. And it would be nice if tortillas won't affect me, because I really like fajitas and it would be an easy choice when we go to the local Mexican restaurant for a work celebration . . . but I'll deal with that once I've discovered what categories are off limits. Gluten may be one of them....

[Robin R.]

1 hour ago, PatGLex said:

Found this topic interesting. I just finished a Whole 30 last week, and I did a gluten test first, on Thursday. Yes, I know, it was recommended to go last. But my mom was dying to make me my birthday cake (family tradition) and since my birthday happened while on the Whole 30 I agreed to have dinner with her once it was over. So I did gluten at each meal. Breakfast was a scone. Experienced, as someone put it delicately above, "gastric distress." :-) Lunch was a roast beef wrap (tomato wrap) with lettuce, tomato, pickle. No problems . . . but I wonder if it was because the tortilla wrap was a combo? Dinner was . . . spaghetti / bread / cake. Gastric distress again. So I saw why they said "don't line up your reintroductions" because I definitely felt bad for a few days going back to Whole 30. (And yes, I know I mixed sweet/sugar/cake with gluten, but I've not had any "sugar dragon" results and haven't had any desire for desserts/sweets/candy.) I've stayed away from doing anything else and may end up doing a "once a week" introduction for the various categories. And it would be nice if tortillas won't affect me, because I really like fajitas and it would be an easy choice when we go to the local Mexican restaurant for a work celebration . . . but I'll deal with that once I've discovered what categories are off limits. Gluten may be one of them....

If you had cake, you would be having sugar, gluten and dairy, correct?

[ShannonM816]

2 hours ago, Robin R. said:

If you had cake, you would be having sugar, gluten and dairy, correct?

Depends on the cake and the frosting. Cake itself, just a plain chocolate or white cake, might not have dairy, depending on if they used butter or shortening in it. Some recipes have milk in them but definitely not all do. Obviously if it had a cream cheese or buttercream frosting, there would be dairy in that. It just depends on how it was all made. Kind of the same thing with the scone -- depending on how it was made, there might or might not have been butter in it.

[Robin R.]

1 hour ago, ShannonM816 said:

Depends on the cake and the frosting. Cake itself, just a plain chocolate or white cake, might not have dairy, depending on if they used butter or shortening in it. Some recipes have milk in them but definitely not all do. Obviously if it had a cream cheese or buttercream frosting, there would be dairy in that. It just depends on how it was all made. Kind of the same thing with the scone -- depending on how it was made, there might or might not have been butter in it.

Exactly right.  I had a friend that reintroed cake first because it was her son's birthday.  She got a massive headache.  It could have been the combination of gluten, sugar and potentially dairy.