sunnyphxgirl Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I'm on day 12. Ever since day 2, I've felt hungry, very hungry. Yet I can't stuff any more food in. Example, last night I ate a huge omelet: lots of eggs, spinach, avocado, and tomato. Then I ate a whole bunch of hash browns, just potatoes, salt and oil. I couldn't quite finish everything, yet within 5 minutes, I felt hungry. Yet I still couldn't stuff anything in. I'm assuming that this is just cravings, but then this feeling never ever goes away. There is no "3-5 minute" timeframe. Did anyone else feel this early in the 30 days? If so, when did it go away? My husband has ironically been feeling the same way, perhaps because we shared the same pre-whole30 diet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimR Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I have no idea if this is relevant to your situation, but I have noticed that I often interpret signs of indigestion as hunger. Perhaps you are experiencing something similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 ... but I have noticed that I often interpret signs of indigestion as hunger.... Absolutely this - and especially if you are eating foods to which you might be sensitive - like avocado which can be problematic for a lot of folk... Can you give us a little more info on what you have been eating each day sunnyphyxgirl? Be sure to include specifics on veg types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyphxgirl Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Today: Breakfast: omelet with 2 eggs, spinach, and sausage (homemade) plus side of banana Lunch: leftover pot roast (cooked carrots, celery, two chunks of beef, broth, butternut squash), side of raspberries Dinner: Homemade burger (sweet potato "bun," beef, tomato, pickle, homemade ketchup, mustard), side of blueberries, spoonful of almond butter The first week, I followed the first week meal plan in the Whole30 book. I learned quickly that I can't handle that many onions (one a week seems fine). I've been cooking my veggies since that first week as raw sometimes (but not always) is too much for my digestive system. I'm not used to so much protein. Left to my own devices, I'll eat practically no protein except what is found in bread, though for Whole30, I've been striving toward a protein, fat, and veggie at every meal. I've added a bit more fruit (3 servings a day) and added carbs (like the squash) since being hungry all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 If you're finding yourself hungry all the time you should be adding fat to your meals not carbs - fat will provide satiety, carbs will provide fibre.The fact that you found more thanone onion per week would indicate you may have a problem with high FODMAP foods. Other FODMAPs you have listed are banana (depending in ripeness), celery, butternut squash (soft skinned squash is generally ok, hard skinned not so much), sweet potato & almond butter. I'd cut back on those foods for a few days (& other FODMAPs as per the red/amber list on >this infographc< about half way down the page) and see how you go.If eating so much animal protein is a new thing for you then you could try adding in a digestive enzyme which will help break down the animal proteins until your gut becomes more used to it. You could also try something like kombucha which may aid digestion.Bread is a carbohydrate by the way with a negligible amount of protein (around 9g per 100g compared to 29g per 100g of beef unless it's jam-packed with nuts/seeds and even then it's low).Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyphxgirl Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Thank you. I will do what I can to add more fats. The infographic didn't work, but your mention of FODMAP did remind me that my dr had given me a list. I'm in a catch 22 as she put me on this diet because of exhaustion and insomnia, but I'm too exhausted to remember everything. So I got the Whole30 part but forgot the FODMAP part. Oh well, I'll try to add that now. Thanks for the reminder! The list she gave me confuses me, though. Some on her low FODMAP list make me feel sick (like grapes and in large quantities tomatoes) whereas sweet potatoes (on the moderate list) are my miracle food for digestive issues. Plus, a quick google search reveals that FODMAP lists don't match. Oh well, I see her again in a couple weeks, after I finish Whole30. I suppose she'll either modify it and have me keep going or she'll guide me through reintroduction. Btw, I do know bread is carbohydrate, with only 6g of protein per 2 slices, which is actually why I mentioned it. That and milk at breakfast were my only sources of protein. It doesn't help that I don't like the taste of meat or nuts (or legumes for that matter). I've been doing a lot of "turn off taste buds and just keep chewing" of food these 2 weeks. I'm hoping I'll find some recipes that hide the meat taste well enough so that I can continue past just a "fad diet 30 day thing." I will see if I can find some appropriate digestive enzymes. I've tried them in the past without any noticeable difference, but perhaps I need a different brand. Or perhaps it'll be different while I'm on Whole30. I appreciate your time in giving me feedback! Another thing I'm wondering is if I need to eat more often. I'm used to eating 5 small meals a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Apologies - I forgot to add the link... take a look >here<FODMAP tolerance levels are a very personal thing. Many people are okay with sweet potatoes for the most part but once their gut is inflamed they can no longer stomach them. Some people have issues with only one group - personally I struggle more with polyols. As far as tomatoes go I can only eat certain types - I've done LOTS of experimenting though and now I know what works for me. Grapes in any quantity make me bloat. Your absolute go to for FODMAPs should be the Monash University website where they are constantly updating their research - they have an app that you can download which is really helpful as it will give suitable serving sizes of foods that might otherwise be considered high FODMAP.Have you tried using fish & shell fish as your protein source? Fresh tuna can have a much less meaty flavour/texture, then there's always the like of ground beef/turkey - I think it's all about experimentation to see what works best for you.As for eating more often this is not something we would recommend. Your digestive system needs down time between meals, and one of the reasons small & frequent meals are recommended is to keep blood sugar stable - which shouldn't be an issue when eating this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyphxgirl Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 I'll check out Monash, thank you. Your paragraph on Fodmaps is helpful. I'll keep experimenting and hopefully find solutions. I appreciate your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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