Problem with removing homemade yogurt

[27angel]

My first Whole30 went well until all the vegetables caused major IBS issues. Through an elimination diet I have found many vegetables and fruits that I can't tolerate. Also, through this elimination diet I began making my own whole-milk plain yogurt that I ferment for 24 hours. The amount of probiotics in this yogurt has really helped stabilize the IBS. I would like to do another Whole30 now that I know which vegetables to avoid because I have been eating a lot of junk but I am worried about cutting out the yogurt. Does anyone have suggestions?

[Mistyfire]

41 minutes ago, 27angel said:

My first Whole30 went well until all the vegetables caused major IBS issues. Through an elimination diet I have found many vegetables and fruits that I can't tolerate. Also, through this elimination diet I began making my own whole-milk plain yogurt that I ferment for 24 hours. The amount of probiotics in this yogurt has really helped stabilize the IBS. I would like to do another Whole30 now that I know which vegetables to avoid because I have been eating a lot of junk but I am worried about cutting out the yogurt. Does anyone have suggestions?

Kombucha gives a good probiotic hit and is compliant. 

[ShannonM816]

You can get probiotics through foods like raw sauerkraut or kimchi or other fermented vegetables. You can also find a good probiotic pill to have in addition to the fermented foods and kombucha, just make sure it's compliant.

 

[littleg]

I don't have any suggestions but I faced the same dilemma a while ago when I started making the SCD yogurt (which really helped me too).  I ate it nearly every day for months and months and it got me out of a flare that landed me in the ER twice the pain was so bad.  Not surprisingly eventually I didn't want it anymore because I was just tired of it.  That is when I did my W30.  If you feel like you aren't there yet and just want to do a junk-free 30 days, and you like having a log and support, etc - post a log in the post W30 section and just do a W30 with the yogurt - just not calling it a W30.  

As a fellow IBS person I really can only do kombucha or good fermented pickles.  Kraut (via the cabbage) and I do.not.get.along.  And its not subtle.  Are there any vegetables on your list of "good" that might be good fermented?  Carrots/ginger is a popular combo that (for me) is a benign way to get veggies - but I've never made it.  

[ShannonM816]

You can ferment any vegetables, so if there are some you know are easier for you to digest, look for recipes for fermenting them.

This site has lots of recipes, not all whole30 compliant: http://www.killerpickles.com/category/fearlessfermentation/

Do look for recipes that don't use a starter, since many starters are dairy based. You don't need a starter anyway, just salt or a salt water brine.

[LucieB]

I make, eat, and need the SCD yogurt but can go without if needed or I miss a batch. I've used the whey from the yogurt for veggie ferments. Maybe this method with your yogurt would continue to provide the probiotics your tummy likes? Wouldn't be the exact same population ratios but it might be similar.

Also, no cabbage for me either. I've done carrots and peeled cucumbers. 

[LaLissie]

What is SCD yogurt?  Thanks.

[jmcbn]

30 minutes ago, LaLissie said:

What is SCD yogurt?

Specific Carbohydrate Diet - used to treat SIBO and other gut disorders.

[27angel]

I tried fermented carrots but they were horrible and couldn't stand them. I think I'll try making pickles. Though if I use the whey from my yogurt isn't that dairy that isn't allowed on Whole 30?

I bought a bottle of Prescript-Assist to use for this Whole 30. I hope it will be a good enough substitute for the yogurt.

[ShannonM816]

20 minutes ago, 27angel said:

I tried fermented carrots but they were horrible and couldn't stand them. I think I'll try making pickles. Though if I use the whey from my yogurt isn't that dairy that isn't allowed on Whole 30?

I bought a bottle of Prescript-Assist to use for this Whole 30. I hope it will be a good enough substitute for the yogurt.

Yeah, no whey on Whole30. You don't need it, though -- you can ferment any vegetable with just a salt water brine. I haven't done pickles myself -- if you can find Bubbies brand, they're fermented pickles and last time I looked, they were compliant, if you want to save yourself a little trouble, or get started on eating them while you wait for your homemade ones. Here's a recipe that uses just the salt water brine (if you don't like spicy, you may want to skip the dried chiles -- I'm not sure how much heat they add, but the recipe should be fine without them). I've heard that if you can't find the grape leaves that she uses, you can use oak leaves or teabags -- you want tannins to help keep the cucumbers from going soggy if you want to have crisp pickles. 

If you like sauerkraut, it's easy to do, and even though I'm not really a huge fan of onions, I've found that fermented onions are actually really good -- I just slice them and layer them with salt the same way the sauerkraut is done, and they produced enough liquid to be submerged without having to add any water. You can mix types of onions, add garlic, it all works well. I let them ferment at room temperature for a month to six weeks at least, when I try them sooner than that they're still very oniony but over time they get milder tasting.