MARTHALEE Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I've seen kombucha on shopping lists and in recipes, so thought it was ok for whole30. I've never had it before but bought some today - it's Kevita organic ginger. It lists sugar in the ingredients. So does that mean it's a nono? Or does the fermentation change the sugar? Or are there kombucha's that don't have any sugar. I haven't started the program yet, but I really like this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted January 5, 2017 Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2017 I can't see your particular label, but Kevita is known for using sugar in the fermentation process and sweetener after the fact, so that would be a no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTHALEE Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Darn - but thanks! Guess I'll have to drink it all before I start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTHALEE Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 want to delete this post but don't see how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted January 5, 2017 Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2017 We don't delete posts because they can contain helpful information for others. As far as drinking it all before you start, depending on when you start and how much is 'all', it's not our recommendation that people do this... it can lead to worse sugar hangover in the first few days when you load up on sugar prior to starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTHALEE Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 only have 4 bottles and don't start for almost three weeks. ;)I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted January 6, 2017 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2017 Ah, okay... as long as you aren't drinking a bathtub full over the next two days just to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTHALEE Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Can I ask a couple other things now that I have your attention? I was looking at the Costco fancy mixed nuts. No peanuts, but the ingredients say Peanut oil. Does that rule it out? And I have Trader Joe's organic Mayonnaise, but one of the ingredients is soybean oil. Is soybean oil not allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted January 6, 2017 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2017 Of course Peanut oil makes those nuts non compliant... the only way that 'peanut' can be mentioned on a label and be okay is when they say 'manufactured in a facility that also produces peanuts' or some such statement. When peanut and peanut byproducts are in the actual ingredient list, it's out. Also, sorry, I just have to say, since you're talking about a costco sized container of nuts (which aren't cheap). Our recommendation on nuts is a closed handful (think about 8 or so almonds) every other day at most... that costco container will last you till it goes rancid at that rate... just a thought to keep in mind when buying that type of thing in bulk. Soybean oil is definitely not allowed... No form of soy, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTHALEE Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Why so few nuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted January 6, 2017 Administrators Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hi @MARTHALEE - nuts, if compliantly roasted or raw, are a fat source albeit not a great one. They have a few issues. They can be hard on the gut and cause digestive issues, they are really easy to over-eat and hard to stop for some people, they can keep the sugar dragon alive and well depending on what variety and mostly they are very high in Omega 6 which our diets are generally over-flooded with. They can also disrupt sleep and if you eat enough of them (see: hard to stop), they can push more nutrient dense foods off your plate. You can eat them...........but the recommendation is to limit them to "occasionally". If you need a metric for "occasional", we recommend no more than one closed handful every other day. Daily consumption or even regular every-other-day consumption is not recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalmama Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 GT is approved. Melissa did do a post back a few years ago.. If you do not see added sugars to the label you are good to go. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatchyana Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Kombucha requires sugar during the fermentation process to feed the culture, but it should be gone once fully fermented. It's the added sugar (listed on the ingredients) that make some off limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTHALEE Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 So I just picked up a bottle of GT's Kombucha. It doesn't list any added sugar, but it does say it has naturally occurring alcohol. Is that still OK? I really would like to have a kombucha I can drink. I start tomorrow! And just confirming.....I bought a bottle of pure cranberry juice and one of pure pomegranate juice. Both say they ONLY have the cold pressed fruit and nothing else added. So, even if it says in the nutritional breakdown that it has sugar, that is OK, right? The pomegranate one said it has 33 grams of sugar per serving! How can that be possible from such a tart fruit. I plan to use these mixed with club soda and lime as a "cocktail alternative". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 49 minutes ago, MARTHALEE said: So I just picked up a bottle of GT's Kombucha. It doesn't list any added sugar, but it does say it has naturally occurring alcohol. Is that still OK? I really would like to have a kombucha I can drink. I start tomorrow! And just confirming.....I bought a bottle of pure cranberry juice and one of pure pomegranate juice. Both say they ONLY have the cold pressed fruit and nothing else added. So, even if it says in the nutritional breakdown that it has sugar, that is OK, right? The pomegranate one said it has 33 grams of sugar per serving! How can that be possible from such a tart fruit. I plan to use these mixed with club soda and lime as a "cocktail alternative". http://whole30.com/2016/06/wine-after-work/ Read this first about cocktail alternatives on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted January 23, 2017 Moderators Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, MARTHALEE said: So I just picked up a bottle of GT's Kombucha. It doesn't list any added sugar, but it does say it has naturally occurring alcohol. Is that still OK? I really would like to have a kombucha I can drink. I start tomorrow! And just confirming.....I bought a bottle of pure cranberry juice and one of pure pomegranate juice. Both say they ONLY have the cold pressed fruit and nothing else added. So, even if it says in the nutritional breakdown that it has sugar, that is OK, right? The pomegranate one said it has 33 grams of sugar per serving! How can that be possible from such a tart fruit. I plan to use these mixed with club soda and lime as a "cocktail alternative". Yes, you're right about the juice. It's the ingredient list we care about, not the nutrition facts. And GT's Kombucha is compliant as well but please remember that we recommend that you mostly drink water (1/2oz per pound of body weight) and go easy on the alternative cocktails etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTHALEE Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Ten and a half 8 oz glasses of water a day? do people really do that? I don't see how I can drink that much without floating away. Is this to help flush out the toxins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted January 25, 2017 Moderators Share Posted January 25, 2017 Yep, people do Most people are chronically dehydrated to begin with, it helps move toxins through your body and being properly hydrated is an important part of health. You get used to drinking that much... at first you might have to pee a lot but your body normalizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shsparky Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 There have been exhaustive discussions about compliant kombucha; I have read the articles and understand about sugar in the labeling. I saw this Giant store brand tonight with something completely different than I have ever noticed on a label...the sugar is listed in parentheses as part of the kombucha (as part of the process, I'm guessing?). It doesn't, in my mind, read as an added sugar. What do you think? *BTW, I have only used GT's Kombucha...Just asking here out of curiosity. Posting picture below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted February 9, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 9, 2017 Good find! Yes, that type of labelling is actually indicating that the sugar was used in the production of the kombucha (fermentation) and would be totally fine for a Whole30. I'm sure you know but for people who don't, if the sugar had appeared not in brackets behind the ginger for instance, that would not be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoreCrunchyCravings Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 hours ago, shsparky said: There have been exhaustive discussions about compliant kombucha; I have read the articles and understand about sugar in the labeling. I saw this Giant store brand tonight with something completely different than I have ever noticed on a label...the sugar is listed in parentheses as part of the kombucha (as part of the process, I'm guessing?). It doesn't, in my mind, read as an added sugar. What do you think? *BTW, I have only used GT's Kombucha...Just asking here out of curiosity. Posting picture below. Gonna check my local Stop and Shop - I see that Nature's Promise brand and I'd sure like to spend less than GTs costs, if that's an option locally for my kombucha. Thanks for the tip, @shsparky!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shsparky Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, NoMoreCrunchyCravings said: Gonna check my local Stop and Shop - I see that Nature's Promise brand and I'd sure like to spend less than GTs costs, if that's an option locally for my kombucha. Thanks for the tip, @shsparky!!! I'm not suggesting it's compliant, btw. I'm asking for an opinion as to if it might be considered differently with way the sugar is listed on the ingredients, different from others that usually list sugar as a separate ingredient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted February 9, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 9, 2017 9 hours ago, shsparky said: I'm not suggesting it's compliant, btw. I'm asking for an opinion as to if it might be considered differently with way the sugar is listed on the ingredients, different from others that usually list sugar as a separate ingredient. It is compliant and I answered your question about how the sugar is labelled two posts up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crastney Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 If you buy an organic one (aren't they all organic?), that might specify that it's unpasteurised, or that it contains the 'mother' or something like that, then you can create a starter pot, and then a SCOBY, and start making your own, then you know what's in it, and that its compliant, and you can add the flavourings you want. soon you'll have scobys coming out of your ears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoreCrunchyCravings Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 9 hours ago, Crastney said: If you buy an organic one (aren't they all organic?), that might specify that it's unpasteurised, or that it contains the 'mother' or something like that, then you can create a starter pot, and then a SCOBY, and start making your own, then you know what's in it, and that its compliant, and you can add the flavourings you want. soon you'll have scobys coming out of your ears! At first, I read this as having a SCOOBY, and I wondered why on earth anyone would want a Scooby coming out of their ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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