c_k_b Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 So... A while back I made this yummy chowder. Chowders are my go-to comfort foods. I had clams and I just wanted New England Clam Chowder. I used 1/2 lb bacon (nitrate/nitrite free) cooked then diced and saved lavish on top 2 large diced onions sauteed in the delicious bacon fat (I did drain and save some of that goodness for a later date) 2 diced red peppers added to the fat and onions sauteing 3 long stalks of celery diced added to the fat onions and red peppers and all cooked until tender 2 cans of coconut milk pour into pot 1 half pint of clam broth pour into pot and bring to simmer I had a bunch of young, not bigger than a large radish really, Hakurai turnips- they became the potato-like chunks in my chowder- once the coconut milk and broth is simmering, add diced turnips and simmer for 10-15 minutes turn to low and add 1 pint of cleaned clams cook on low barely simmering for 1/2 hour, check flavor add salt and pepper as needed. A shot of worcestershire in this is good- someone suggested lemongrass and lime juice to "Thai it up". Edit- paleo worcestershire sauce- http://paleodietlife...condiments/#s10 using coconut aminos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted October 25, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 25, 2012 The recipe sounds great. Worcestershire sauce is not Whole30-compliant - molasses, corn syrup, sugar, etc. are off limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_k_b Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 The recipe sounds great. Worcestershire sauce is not Whole30-compliant - molasses, corn syrup, sugar, etc. are off limits. Sorry Tom- I forgot this link... for paleo worcestershire sauce http://paleodietlife...condiments/#s10 using coconut aminos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted October 25, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 25, 2012 If you sub coconut aminos for the soy sauce in the paleodietlife recipe, it would work. I might just add fish sauce and coconut aminos to the clam chowder and give up on the worcestershire sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_k_b Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 If you sub coconut aminos for the soy sauce in the paleodietlife recipe, it would work. I might just add fish sauce and coconut aminos to the clam chowder and give up on the worcestershire sauce. I am having a hard time finding fish sauce without sugar...? Any thoughts or brand suggestions? I looked at the co*op and grocery stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan W Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I am having a hard time finding fish sauce without sugar...? Any thoughts or brand suggestions? I looked at the co*op and grocery stores. Here is one that I can buy at WF or order from Amazon. It's incredibly good. http://www.amazon.com/Boat-Fish-Sauce-40%C2%B0N-2-250/dp/B0037J1YO2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1351436472&sr=8-5&keywords=fish+sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starre Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 If the sugar is used up in the fermentation process and I believe fish sauce is fermented then would sugar be OK in the fish sauce? I have a huge bottle that I don't want to throw out if I don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan W Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 If the sugar is used up in the fermentation process and I believe fish sauce is fermented then would sugar be OK in the fish sauce? I have a huge bottle that I don't want to throw out if I don't need to. I will let a moderator chime in but if it's added sugar, then it isn't okay. I have a bottle that I tossed but it was a small bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quotidianlight Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Traditional fish sauce didn't have sugar. I think we probably spread sugar the same way we spread spam. The sugar is added AFTER fermentation. I use Rufina fish sauce. It's really cheap even off amazon. Lasts forever, no sugar and has good flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starre Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Thanks for the info. It's on its way to the garbage bin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirsteen Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 So far I can't find any fish sauce here in the UK that doesn't have sugar . I've tried Amazon, ebay and all the usual suspects. Anyone know of any. I was thinking of using anchovy paste, which is just anchovies and salt and mixing it with some fish stock. I know it won't be nearly the same (I know how the Romans made garum) but thought it might give some flavour, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan W Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Kirsteen, if you can order from Amazon, can you not order the Red Boat? Obviously not..duh Susan. Just thought maybe you didn't see it? If not, I think your idea of making it is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derval Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 So far I can't find any fish sauce here in the UK that doesn't have sugar . I've tried Amazon, ebay and all the usual suspects. Anyone know of any. I was thinking of using anchovy paste, which is just anchovies and salt and mixing it with some fish stock. I know it won't be nearly the same (I know how the Romans made garum) but thought it might give some flavour, Kirsteen, I have some here in Dublin (I got 4.5L (!) straight from the supplier, he has a sugar free one he supplies to trade) I could try send you some if you are happy to pay for your share (only €4 per 500ml) and postage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirsteen Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Kirsteen, I have some here in Dublin (I got 4.5L (!) straight from the supplier, he has a sugar free one he supplies to trade) I could try send you some if you are happy to pay for your share (only €4 per 500ml) and postage? That would be absolutely brilliant. Now if we can just work out how I pay you. Paypal would be the easiest if you have a paypal account. PM me and we'll see if we can work something out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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