AmyS Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I need to stay positive. It's an extended family outing. Last time we went to this particular place, I wasn't Whole30ing but wanted to stay as compliant as possible. It's a country-style Japanese place, so basically you're talking lots of non-compliant oil and soy sauce. I know I can get sashimi, and I can get a lettuce salad with no dressing. So I'll do that. There will be other things on the place with that dish, but I'll just eat around them and be fine. The funny thing is, I always thought I liked this restaurant, but after eating there I would feel all strange and bloated and generally not so good. Now that I know soy is a particular trigger for me (hello Hashimoto's Thyroiditis) and I know about the oils issue, I'm pretty sure that walking into the restaurant and inhaling is noncompliant. Ha! But I can do this. I will be positive, I will eat before I go, and I will consider the sashimi and lettuce salad to be a nice snack. Yes. (I just needed to get that out. I'm so not a fan of restaurant eating anymore - I have grown to like my cooking way better than what I get when I eat out - who knew that would happen???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny M Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I would say that my biggest complaint of whole30 and this way of eating in general is that it has nearly killed the restaurant experience for me. Restaurants for me are really occasional treats where I let myself slip now (when not on a whole30) because with San Francisco prices, the cost to go out and eat a couple pieces of sashimi and leaves of lettuce would probably be outrageous for a generally pretty crappy meal that I could have made a hundred times better and for half the price at home. I so feel you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyS Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 I would say that my biggest complaint of whole30 and this way of eating in general is that it has nearly killed the restaurant experience for me. Restaurants for me are really occasional treats where I let myself slip now (when not on a whole30) because with San Francisco prices, the cost to go out and eat a couple pieces of sashimi and leaves of lettuce would probably be outrageous for a generally pretty crappy meal that I could have made a hundred times better and for half the price at home. I so feel you. Yes, that's really the thing. Prices are high, quality (at the restaurants I can still afford) is really not. I think it goes back to something Tom has said elsewhere in a different context: sugar (and other things) get added to foods that are not really top quality, to make them taste better. I'm sure the restaurant gig is a very tough one, and I don't mean to disparage the hard work that it takes to establish and run a solvent restaurant. But I think that it's very telling that we're still all surprised and consider it kind of elite, when a restaurant has its own garden, for instance. And, you being in the Bay area, are aware of what Alice Waters charges for a meal. OK, fine. But heck, I have a roast and two kinds of chicken and some sausage at home, plus some insanely good veggies and my own homemade mayonnaise waiting for me. And maybe no one else would pay me to eat that food (and I have no plans to start a restaurant in order to test out that theory), but I like it! In any case, I am going for the family outing part of this. So that will be fine. Ohm!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny M Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I have a friend that does paleo pop-ups here and she makes very little profit if any on them because she uses real food and real food is not cheap. She doesn't have the same economies of scale as a full restaurant but she prices her meals nearly at cost and got a lot of feedback recently on the cost. Hopefully this will all change soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renee Lee Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Ugh, it's so annoying. Paying anybody to cook me a steak and sweet potato while I'm W30ing? NOT WORTH IT!! I will say that, post W30, the high quality farm to table type restaurants while off-roading? Totally worth it on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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