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  1. @Advocado I'm curious if after a while you have a different understanding of the 'is it worth it' mentality. My 'journey' with this wasn't quick, and I sometimes think people that feel like they've abruptly changed their entire life are in a honeymoon period and haven't landed back into their real lives yet. It is hard. It took me 3 years of gradual, gradual changes to feel like I truly operate, mostly unemotionally and without stress, with an 'is it worth it' mindset. I can tell you what it looks like now, though the first year was not much like this at all! It was eating like I did before the Whole 30 and feeling guilty. Now, 3ish years after I started this thing, when we go out to a 'nice' place, I'll just choose things that I know are minimally troublesome, though they might certainly still have added sugar, soy, legumes, etc., and I have no problem simply asking for 'no dairy' (that's the worst for me, I don't even enjoy the expensive meal because my sinuses are stuffed up and my throat is itchy as soon as I eat it). I don't ask the server specifics, I just generally steer away from things that are likely going to make me feel like garbage later. But I might still have a glass of wine or two, and I might still feel like garbage the next day sometimes. It doesn't send me crashing wildly into failure land. It reminds me why I love feeling mostly good most of the time, and why I really want to eat cabbage and eggs and every day for breakfast. I didn't get 'rid' of less healthy things permanently. Today I ate a melted chocolate out of my delivery van's cupholder, and I was so very, very low blood sugar that it was 110% worth it, and I was very, very excited to get home and eat shredded chicken with avocado, greens, and mustard, cold out of the fridge. I drink about 2% of the alcohol I used to, and don't miss it at all. I don't plan my less healthy foods, I just don't think about food as much as I used to. My general habits and choices have changed. My 'comfort foods' are the things I always have on hand that I can rely on to make me feel good, well fed.
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    @TJHigh congrats! Trip sounds awesome. It's cool to see how specifically you've been able to lay out the results of this experiment. I'm also glad to be seeing it in real time since we finished the W30 about the same time--it helps me remember how actually close I still am to the heels of the W30. Like the other day I was like, well, pretty much got legumes, added sugar, and alcohol figured out, that only took forEVER, and then it was like, well, actually, it didn't, it was pretty quick. Only been three weeks. Keeping it all in long-term context is hard!
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    I think there's a lot of risk in looking at your weight every day. It's not measuring fat vs sugar adaptation. How could it? I think your hunger between meals is your best tracker. If you feel like snacking two hours after eating a breakfast high in starch or with added sugar, that tells you your body just burned through your sugar and it wants more. If you're looking at the scale every day, it's probably just measuring water. I ate my first plate that included beans for breakfast, and I just feel a little fuller so far, not quite bloated but just like, more volume. It's probably the difference in the way different starches require water for digestion? I don't know that much about it, but I really believe that checking your weight every day, and using that number as a basis for analysis of the previous day's eating/activity level is neither accurate nor helpful. Especially when you think of your eating as good and your goal as vigilant. That sounds like a diet that you will crash out of at some point. I'm not trying to sound harsh or something, I just hope you can gradually (or maybe abruptly, if that's what it takes) divorce the scale as a value system for your life. I think it's the healthy and comfortable place you want to be psychologically, right?
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    I also reintro'd a drink finally, had a couple glasses of champagne. It's tough, man! especially because I wasn't in the 'controlled environment' of my home and routine, it's hard to make decisions that I feel sure of. But I approached it as like, yeah I might be jittery with this tomorrow and have to deal with that, but it's just one night, I'll be grateful to bet back to my normalcy after this. (I was super jittery today, and 'hangover hungry' even though I didn't have any other parts of a hangover.) I think the important thing @TJHigh is not to get wrapped up in a narrative about this one event. You've just had pretty positive meal/food experiences, one on top of another on top of another, for some 40-odd days. If you gave as much narrative weight to every single one of those moments as you're giving last night's 3-wine&snack event, then it would be clear that your ultimate trajectory or pattern is overall good, and improving. Take comfort in that; trust yourself. It's easy to let one event (that feels like and maybe is a recurrence of an old and frustrating behavior pattern) convince you that your stuck in that pattern, when you're totally not! Everybody's trajectory probably looks pretty up&down sometimes, especially when you zoom in. I would not view this as a 'failure.' It was just a decision you made, just a couple of decisions. I would try to look at how you feel a little clinically--with some objective distance. Probably not entirely related to the food/wine, like you said, significantly psychological, and probably stress about work stress (a cyclical little devil). Even if it takes you a couple days to get out of the funk, I think you will! Wishing you well.
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    Right?? This is the first post-W30 where I'm not looking at croissants like potential land mines. Multiple times I've been offered dessert--even gluten free, 'natural sugar' brownies with blackberries (all sugar ultimately comes from plants, as long as it's not corn syrup I don't think the difference matters that much) --and I've thought, is this really special? Am I really going to enjoy it? Do I feel like I have to eat this, out of social obligation, or some brain habit of getting dessert after a meal? And so far, it hasn't been really special, and any desire I might have to eat is just to avoid social awkwardness.
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    @hotwheels I really enjoy those monster salad bar places, especially now that I'm not worried about whether sunflower seeds are roasted in peanut oil, etc. It's totally worth the $15 bucks sometimes to have a giant slaw/salad bowl with 20 ingredients prepped by somebody else. (And yeah, no dishes!!) @TJHigh It's amazing how your body recovers after you've eaten without much sugar for ~40 days, I think you'll be right back off your sugar train when you go to your 2 days of W30 food.
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    That you're excited for a negative symptom is pretty funny! I get it, though. It makes me curious--what made you take the Whole 30 trek in the first place? Or come back to it? If you don't seem to have much in the way of negative reactions to any of the major food groups that this eliminates. I'm experiencing the same thing with my legume testing--kind of don't really want to eat the legume foods right now, but I DO want to test my reaction in a 'controlled environment' so I'm making myself, because at some point, I'll like to have the option of hummus at a restaurant with few options. (I also had sweetened pickle relish and regular barbeque sauce for the super bowl... it was GROSS. I've never been that crazy for barbeque sauce but I will def have no qualms about turning it down in the future.)
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    @TJHigh I suspect the desire to snack has something to do with the change in blood sugar that goes along with (in my case) occasional added sugar and (in your case) wine, not just the psychological component. Like you said, nuts and dried fruit is objectively better than jelly beans or something, but the mental cloud around the snacking is the part I hate most, and if that comes back, I'm still in the same boat, even if the snacks are comprised of unsweetened dried mango and pistachios (for now). It just opens the door a crack, and it's a lot of work pushing it closed over and over again. The reason I pursued this whole thing in the very beginning was to use my brain for my life outside of food rumination and obsession. It's like a fine line to navigate, being always prepared to feed yourself well, and not succumbing to constant food planning, obsessing, ruminating. I think eating out at solid places is a good idea. Literally not having to shred the carrots for my salad and wash the grater is a wonderful treat. Grocery shopping always helps push me back into the rhythm of kitchen management, too, like it's just another chore and sometimes I get behind on folding laundry or whatever but I don't panic that I'm never going to be able to fold all the laundry again, which is for whatever reason where my brain goes when I get behind on food prep: I'll never be able to do this! Yes, I will, and sometimes I'll be on top of it, and sometimes I won't, like the rest of my life, and it's fine, no need to tip the boat about it.
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    I'm still following. For my reintro roll I had soy sauce for the first time today with lunch, as well as mixed nuts that may have had soybean oil on my salad at dinner. So far, nothing digestive to report, and I'm really hopeful that holds true. I don't need to eat soy sauce every day or even every week; I just like the option of ordering at an Asian restaurant. My energy levels have been pretty normal with the occasional added sugar--sweetened cranberries in jerky the other day, ketchup with potatoes yesterday, etc, other than feeling lethargic today but I'm on the tail end of a cold and stayed up late with friends so, as expected. I think the thing I'm experiencing is like, now that I'm not officially on the W30, my dedication to and enthusiasm for meal prep is waning (it did during, too, maybe it's just cyclical), and I don't think I ate quite enough the last two days. Don't have cravings for something sweet, or snacks, just want like MORE roasted veg under my eggs, but ran out of prepped food and ripe avocadoes etc so just didn't pursue more. It's good that I don't just pour tortilla chips on my plate, but not eating quite enough out of laziness is a cycle I let myself fall into often, which leads inevitably to panic hunger at some point when work stretches out and I don't have stuff ready, and then yeah, I end up eating chips or whatever, literally whatever I can get, and have to work really hard not to crash after that. Do you ever experience flagging enthusiasm for your planning? It feels like so much... vigilance. The part where you're off the rules, which is the way I need it work for me (LOL I'm never making a list that says "have a relaxing breakfast") is the scary part! This helps, though, continuing to check in and hopefully, gradually get comfortable out here in the world again.
  10. You happen to have been on Day 10, as well, a pretty rough day in general for a lot of people. Something about that transition period between the hangover and tiger blood, a couple of Why-Am-I-Here-Wednesdays in a row. Everything seems inordinately frustrating. I really like the empowering rephrasing of day 12 of 42! Not failing/starting over, going forward! Look forward! A good lesson for life after your rules are over, too. I've had some miscommunications about what can and can't go in dinners and found out this tasted so weird because it was cooked in butter... Really, really infuriating. But I think the benefits still outweigh the frustrations. A lot of people will attest to that. I like to use an analogy for mental moments like this: When you trip a little going up the stairs, do you just tuck and roll, tumbling down the stairs, thinking "I'm a failure, I should never have tried!"? Probably not. Probably, you just recover your balance, and commence climbing again, one foot after another.
  11. Good point! Didn't look at the dates! Was just reading through it and was like, huh, this could be sort of what they were referencing?
  12. @KKL Apologies for assuming this didn't exist! @SugarcubeOD This may be the thread where it seems like people are suggesting replacing vegetable snacks with fat/protein snacks when the person looking for advice is dealing with constipation. Am I misreading this thread? Is there more to figure out here?
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    @RandiW As far as pushing back reintro, if it were me, I would. I feel like a completely different body is attached to me during that time, and listening to your body's signals is really hard. Reintro is so much more chill and low-stakes feeling, less emotional, less stressful, everything. I tried keeping a bit of a journal this round, and looking back at the three-five days where I was in period zone, it is incredible how much more stressed out I was about food, and in general. I didn't plan it, but I luckily ended my Whole 30 two days after coming out of that, and am on a super slow roll reintro, and am not even mildly stressed about it. And if you did already start reintro, just remind yourself that sometimes your reactions (emotional and physical) to the foods might be complicated by the fact of your hormones and digestive changes during menstruation, etc, so they might seem a little out of proportion. BUT it's kind of a good experiment, you find out what benefits you or doesn't during that time.
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    @TJHigh You are so planned out! This is amazing. I'm in a similar place it sounds like (finished 3rd Whole 30, best one yet, didn't take reintro too seriously before) and looking at a very similar reintro pattern as you, with significantly LESS systematic planning, but I'm sticking to a similar super slow roll with a consistent intake of a little of something and trying to see long term effects. And I'm trying just one individual component of a food group (soy sauce, my heart!). I'll stay tuned into your progress and findings, and whatever happens. I'm so curious about the added sugar here and there and the desire for sweet things. That's where I started today, a salsa with added sugar, a spice rub with added sugar. The food tasted weirdly sweet to me, but definitely did not make me want dessert. I'm really curious to see how it goes for you, and how it plays out over the course of a week or so.
  15. Good to know! And thanks for the actual, knowledgeable suggestions.