Still Snacking

[LancerLott]

I'm new to this forum. I've been on the Whole30 since January 19th, and I still need to have snacks. 

I am up at 5:45 a.m. and have breakfast at 6. I have lunch when I can at my business (self employed hair professional who runs and works in the salon ), and that ends up being at random times and I often don't have time to sit down and enjoy my lunch. I am also used to eating very fast and within 20 minutes max. I am working on this and I might end up doing the Whole30 for another 15-30 days. Also, I might get my lunch any time between 11:00 and 5:00. Yes; it's that varied. Today, I scheduled my lunches to occur at the same time every day that I work in the salon. Hopefully I can stick to that. I also made my lunch blocks =45 minutes. 

Some nice folks replied to my OP in the Intro section- missmary and GFChris. They mentioned that I should come here to post my food log from the past 2-3 days. I intend to do that but today I am working and my last client has arrived, so I will post that to this thread tonight or tomorrow. Thanks in advance for any help, and hello everyone!

[AmyS]

First off, love your hair!!

 

Second, looking forward to your food log.

 

Third, snacks are not necessarily a problem, we just suggest that you find ways to eat a mini-meal featuring protein and fat when you get hungry between your scheduled meals.

 

I'm a teacher and often go more hours between full meals than I would like. (Hmph.) I've taken to bringing hard boiled eggs. I can eat an egg every so often throughout my long mornings and not be incredibly hungry. Make no mistake, I can still put away a full and hefty lunch when I do get to it, and that's after eating a substantial breakfast.

 

Other people eat packets of sardines, cans of tuna, or pre-make things like veggie/egg bakes or veggie/tuna bakes and have them on hand as needed.

 

Hope that helps get you started and remember, eat up. We don't want you going hungry.

[LancerLott]

Thanks AmyS! 

 

Here's what I had...

Friday Meals:

1. Whole30 Pumpkin Breakfast Pudding http://www.preppypaleo.com/2012/05/whole30-breakfast-recipes.htmland 1 hard boiled egg. Cold-brewed coffee concentrate with water and coconut milk.
2. Paleo Tuna Casserole https://www.pinterest.com/pin/290411875945001570/, and 1/2 an avocado. 1 cup green tea.
3. Hot dogs (2) with sweet potato buns https://www.pinterest.com/pin/65583738299661120/ and(1) chocolate nut date bar https://www.pinterest.com/pin/65583738299650865/. 1 cup chamomile tea.

Snacks: 1 tall Americano with coconut milk (brought my own), dry roasted nuts with a few raisins (homemade; 1/4 cup), 2 mini kosher pickles, and 1 navel orange.

 

Thursday Meals: 

1. Whole30 Pumpkin Breakfast Pudding and cold-brewed coffee concentrate with water and coconut milk.
2. Chicken breast (1/2 can) with paleo mayo on 1 cup of spinach, and 1 bosc pear.
3. Paleo Tuna Casserole and (1) chocolate nut date bar.

Snacks: Leftover salmon frittata (from the Whole30 book; about 1/3 cup, with homemade tartar sauce, 1/2 avocado, 1 kosher dill pickle, and 1 navel orange.

 

Wednesday Meals:

1. Salmon frittata and cold-brewed coffee concentrate with water and coconut milk.
2. Crockpot Turkey Breast http://stupideasypaleo.com/2012/10/07/crockpot-turkey-breast/
3. Turkey Pot Pie http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=1889535

Snacks: 1/4 cup dry roasted nuts and a few raisins, 1 D'Anjou pear, and 1 navel orange. 

 

I think that's everything I've had in the past 3 days. 

[GFChris]

Ok, for starters, while the breakfast pudding contains compliant ingredients, it's not your best choice for a meal. Add a protein like you did with the egg. When eggs are your protein, the serving size is the number of eggs you can hold in one hand. For most folks, that's at least 3-4 eggs.

Aim to create all your meals to meet the recommended template of protein, veg and fat. Play with the portions to get to a place where the meals satiate you for 4-5 hours.

When having coffee in the morning, have it after your meal 1, as caffeine can act as an appetite suppressant.

The chocolate nut date bar is a kind of desserty treat that is against the Whole30 rules of creating chocolate/fruit confections.

The recommended snack is a mini-meal of protein, veg and fat. Nuts are a fat source on a Whole30. For best results, save fruit to have with or immediately after your main meals only.

[LancerLott]

GFChris, I am hard pressed to eat any more eggs than I am eating already, which is why the break with the brakfast pudding and 1 HB egg. I am also trying to lose weight, and I have high cholesterol (mainly triglycerides), so eating MORE eggs is fear-instilling.

• I do have the coffee after my meal. 
• As I have long days, it's better for me to have four meals a day- yesterday, I ate my linch in two settings (crockpot turkey breast with carrots, cranberries, and orange slices, an apple, and half an avocado). This seemed to help.
• The cocoa/date/nut bars are NO different than the Larabars, which are allowed on Whole30. There was nothing against the program added into the bars, so how is this a bad thing? Especially, as they also contain nuts (protein and fat)? The dates that are mised in them are a part of that mini-meal, as it were, imho. 

[GFChris]

 

 

• The cocoa/date/nut bars are NO different than the Larabars, which are allowed on Whole30. There was nothing against the program added into the bars, so how is this a bad thing? Especially, as they also contain nuts (protein and fat)? The dates that are mised in them are a part of that mini-meal, as it were, imho. 

 

 

Ok, in my opinion, I think that's a bit of a stretch. You want to avoid using compliant ingredients to make chocolately confections with fruit, per the rules.  See the Can I Have Guide: "Cacao (100%): Yes

Cacao (or 100% cocoa) is great when used as a savory spice (our Mocha Steak Rub, found in It Starts With Food, is a great example), but you can also feel free to add it to your coffee or tea, or brew it Crio Bru-style. But per the rules of the program, it’s not okay to add cocoa to dates and other fruits to make chocolate-y confections. Read our Great Cocoa Debate for details."- See more at: http://whole30.com/2013/06/the-official-can-i-have-guide-to-the-whole30/#sthash.aaNRBFYZ.dpuf

 

In any case, Lara Bars are *emergency food only* on a Whole30.   They are not intended to be part of a meal - only if you're stuck in hours of traffic or in a place where you have hours in between meals and there is no other option available.

 

There is tons of information on eggs and cholesterol in the forum with links to relevant articles that may allay your fears. Here's a sampling:

 

http://paleononpaleo...gh-cholesterol/

http://paleononpaleo...sterol-testing/

http://chriskresser....e-not-the-enemy

http://chriskresser....t-heart-disease

http://healthcorrela...-it-may-be.html

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/

http://www.drbriffa.com/blog/

http://www.proteinpo...statin-madness/

http://whole9life.co...th-cholesterol/

[LadyM]

Larabars are technically compliant, but we don't recommend them. They're basically sugar bombs that look and behave like candy. Reserved for emergencies only. Personally, I never have an emergency that calls for a larabar. Creating something that looks and acts like them would fall in the same category.

 

Eggs have gotten an undeserved bad rap. Don't fear them.

 

The best way to lose weight is to stick to the template. The best way to slay your sugar dragon is to reduce the sweet things you eat including those date nut bars and fruit, both dried and fresh. Fresh fruit is OK with meals, but it shouldn't push veggies off your plate. Two pieces of fruit a day should be about your max. Nuts, especially when paired with dried fruit, are food without brakes for most people, can cause digestive upset, and are generally not your friends, especially as hand-to-mouth foods. Sorry. I am genuinely trying to help here.

[LancerLott]

 

GFChris, I am hard pressed to eat any more eggs than I am eating already, which is why the break with the brakfast pudding and 1 HB egg. I am also trying to lose weight, and I have high cholesterol (mainly triglycerides), so eating MORE eggs is fear-instilling.

• I do have the coffee after my meal. 
• As I have long days, it's better for me to have four meals a day- yesterday, I ate my linch in two settings (crockpot turkey breast with carrots, cranberries, and orange slices, an apple, and half an avocado). This seemed to help.
• The cocoa/date/nut bars are NO different than the Larabars, which are allowed on Whole30. There was nothing against the program added into the bars, so how is this a bad thing? Especially, as they also contain nuts (protein and fat)? The dates that are mised in them are a part of that mini-meal, as it were, imho. 

 

 

In any case, Lara Bars are *emergency food only* on a Whole30.   They are not intended to be part of a meal - only if you're stuck in hours of traffic or in a place where you have hours in between meals and there is no other option available.

 

There is tons of information on eggs and cholesterol in the forum with links to relevant articles that may allay your fears. Here's a sampling:

 

Thanks. It's a bit confusing. At times, at work, there is no other option (like when I can't leave my work station to go upstairs and have a meal), so I will save the Larabars for those imes, then. I will read up on the eggs when I have more time- I leave for work soon. 

[LancerLott]

Larabars are technically compliant, but we don't recommend them. They're basically sugar bombs that look and behave like candy. Reserved for emergencies only. Personally, I never have an emergency that calls for a larabar. Creating something that looks and acts like them would fall in the same category.

 

Eggs have gotten an undeserved bad rap. Don't fear them.

 

The best way to lose weight is to stick to the template. The best way to slay your sugar dragon is to reduce the sweet things you eat including those date nut bars and fruit, both dried and fresh. Fresh fruit is OK with meals, but it shouldn't push veggies off your plate. Two pieces of fruit a day should be about your max. Nuts, especially when paired with dried fruit, are food without brakes for most people, can cause digestive upset, and are generally not your friends, especially as hand-to-mouth foods. Sorry. I am genuinely trying to help here.

 

Gotcha. Which template is that, please? I can't remember where it's at in the book. 

I only DO have two pieces of fruit a day, FYI. Usually one small apple and one small orange. Lately, with a meal, instead of as a snack. 

Also, I eat plenty of vegetables. Did I say that I didn't? The pumpkin pudding was ilke 2 cups of pumpkin. I listed the recipes I used so that the veggie components can be seen. It's alot to type everything that went into a meal.

Don't be sorry; I do need and appreciate the help, but I am getting frustrated because, to me, I am doing great (except my confusion about the Larabars). The bars I made are gone, btw, and the Larabars underneath the counter for emergency use, and not as part of a meal anymore. 

Also, FWIW, when I used to make homemade trail mix, which I will do after this is over, I measured them out into portion ups- never had more than 1/4 cup a day of dry roasted raw nuts with some raisins or dates (less dates when I used them over raisins). 

[GFChris]

Gotcha. Which template is that, please? I can't remember where it's at in the book. 

 

 

Here's the Whole30 meal template.

[LancerLott]

Thank you thank you thank you! -I had discarded that when I printed it out originally because I thought it was a guide only for pre- and post- workout meals. I don't work out regularly, so when I do, I just consider it extra activity and I don't eat more food to compensate (again- trying to lose weight). 

[LancerLott]

Ok, for starters, while the breakfast pudding contains compliant ingredients, it's not your best choice for a meal. Add a protein like you did with the egg. When eggs are your protein, the serving size is the number of eggs you can hold in one hand. For most folks, that's at least 3-4 eggs.

Aim to create all your meals to meet the recommended template of protein, veg and fat. Play with the portions to get to a place where the meals satiate you for 4-5 hours.

When having coffee in the morning, have it after your meal 1, as caffeine can act as an appetite suppressant.

The chocolate nut date bar is a kind of desserty treat that is against the Whole30 rules of creating chocolate/fruit confections.

The recommended snack is a mini-meal of protein, veg and fat. Nuts are a fat source on a Whole30. For best results, save fruit to have with or immediately after your main meals only.

 

Thanks. It's a bit confusing. At times, at work, there is no other option (like when I can't leave my work station to go upstairs and have a meal), so I will save the Larabars for those imes, then. I will read up on the eggs when I have more time- thanks again! (Still getting used to how this forum works btw)