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On 12/8/2018 at 11:50 AM, msimp227 said:
Hi Catherine, did you figure out what caused your head ache?
I'm on day 14 and have had a dull throbbing head ache for over a week. I have never had head aches before other than routine hangovers. Am drinking plenty of water and salt everything. I'm Irish, but never ate potatoes until now so I wonder if they are the culprit or if my body is missing something.
I had that dull throbbing headache on and off for a little more than the first couple weeks. Generally it's a hormone adjustment side effect - take a headache pill if you need to, you don't have to suffer. Of course I'm not a doctor so if you're concerned, seek out medical advice.
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1 hour ago, Sylvie_P said:
Day 30 and investigating all my reintroduction options. I've been feeling good and I'm oddly nervous about reintroduction, but I have a dilemma. Tomorrow is Thursday and on Saturday I have a friend's birthday, which will involve wine and dinner. Is it not ok to have a glass of wine tonight to test to see if I'm ok to drink it on Saturday? The timing is a bit off, I know...
Now in terms of the dinner, it's family style, so the menu is already selected and the food is actually quite close to Whole30, but it's a French restaurant, so my guess is that BUTTER will be the main ingredient. Does that mean I'm testing dairy? I'm just unclear about when butter gets reintroduced. Now there's also a charcuterie of meats, and bacon in a salad, which might be laced with sugar... should I avoid those? or is the amount of sugar not considered a test? I wasn't planning on having the dessert or the selection of fine cheeses (sigh), unless of course I can have a glass of wine tonight. Please help, I've looked everywhere to try to find an answer.
This is all really up to you. Butter would be considered part of a dairy reintro. The sugar in the meats I wouldn't worry about at all. The wine though.............that can be really problematic for some people in a situation similar to yours where there IS a party-type atmosphere and non compliant foods. It lowers inhibitions. I wouldn't personally recommend testing oneself on wine at something like this.
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29 minutes ago, Akikaki said:
I thought you could only have three meals a day. And here she was saying that you want to eat her chicken breast 2 hours later and it seems like that's not part of lunch, Unless I'm being mistaken here
Three meals a day is our best practice recommendation, it's not a rule. In this case the moderator was discussing what to do when the person felt that they couldn't eat enough in one sitting to make it to their next meal. People who are very used to snacking all day sometimes need an adjustment period in order to teach their body to eat three meals/day.
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1 minute ago, annael said:
hello, i started on June, the 1st and being my first time ever i am still adjusting to portions...with salad greens i usually need to have more than 3 cups, is it ok? and abt eggs, is it ok to have sometime only egg whites? i like to prepare some omelette with one whole egg and 5/6 egg whites. and do we need to have a bit of starchy veg in every meal?
thx
Salad greens you will typically require much more than 3 cups as they get munched down to next to nothing. We always tell people to eat "mixing bowl sized salads" if that is their only veggie.
Eggs are as many whole eggs as you can hold in your hand - usually 3-4 is a good start for most people. Why would you want to only use whites for the bulk of the omelette?
Starchy veggies are recommended as a fist sized serving once per day to start. More if you are extremely active, on or near your period etc. Less if you are quite sedentary, have weight to lose etc.
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30 minutes ago, MichelleR said:
I'm on day 5 of my first Whole30. Since day 1, I am experiencing light stomach cramping when I eat (kind of like after you've had the stomach flu and your digestive system has to re-boot the factory). Sometimes it starts off during a meal and other times it is immediately afterward. As I get later in the day, the cramping basically sticks around off/on into the overnight hours, but is generally gone before I eat anything the next morning. Then the cycle starts up again with breakfast. Things seem a little better today, but it's still early. Before starting W30, I had been following Atkins pretty closely and so the meals have not been a HUGE adjustment overall. I have not yet experienced most of the common symptoms noted on the W30 calendar, but this cramping is a beat down by bedtime. Any suggestions on what might be going on?
No specific suggestions without knowing what you've been eating. Some foods like raw veggies, cruciferous veggies like brocoli and cauliflower, excess nuts, dried fruits and even fizzy waters will cause bloating and cramping.
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5 minutes ago, Puckertoe said:
The squaffles and fries sound like junk made to look/sound healthy, and SWYPO, Just as easy to boil some potatoes. The salmon sound good though.
No, these are alright, it's just butternut squash cut in a crinkle form. It is literally nothing but butternut squash, raw, ready to roast. These are fine.
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9 minutes ago, Dj_tasha said:
I have been irregular for a couple of years now and this time was the worse, I'm in the process of going to see a gyno but I didn' have my period for 4 months untill I started whole 30 and got my period on day 6.. heavy and feel weak. Anyone else had that?
Do you know why you didn't have your period for 4 months? How different is Whole30 from how you were eating before? There is definitely a hormonal adjustment that comes w/ Whole30 which can result in early, late, second, heavy, light, crampy, flowy periods. Basically it can shake things up in Uterusville for a while.
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Just now, littleg said:
@ladyshanny Yeah, it was a good video - I had never seen it either! It did bring up another question for me though... slow roll, she talks about waiting until mom bakes cookies and then you decide, ok, today I'm going to try a cookie. When you do slow roll are you introducing entire recipes you like (so a cookie, which may have gluten and dairy) vs food genres (gluten, dairy, etc)? Thanks!
Ya, I wondered that too when it first came out but I think the point is to literally go SO SLOWLY that you have the opportunity to figure it out. It takes, I think, more self assessment. So you have the cookie and you feel sort of crappy and your excema flares up the next day. So, you decide you probably don't want the cookie next time. Then 2 or 3 weeks later you have ice cream and your exzcema flares up again. So now you can be fairly sure dairy probably bothers your skin. 3 weeks later you have a fresh baked dinner roll (no butter) and you feel sort of crappy. You link that crappy feeling back to the same crappy feeling after the cookie and you can also assume that gluten gives you this feeling.
It's less definitive at first because all you know is that something bothered you, but I think you get more valuable information the longer you go along. Maybe dairy plus gluten is a no-go but gluten alone isn't as big a deal. Maybe legumes are great but legumes plus sour cream are a crap-show. I think you get more information relating to how you actually eat most of the time. So if you aren't a person that jams legumes into every meal like you would do during the 10-day reintro, you get info more relating to how you would use the food. Does that make sense? It's just my take on it and I've never done a 10-day reintro because that's just not how my life works, it didn't make any sense to me. My bothersome items are ALL dose dependant so jamming a bunch of them into a small time frame is going to blow the ship right out of the water every time.
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20 minutes ago, littleg said:
She says "you reintroduce these foods... in an order that we've outlined for you... least problematic to most problematic". So I guess I don't see that as "you can reintroduce foods however you want but we suggest x,y,z" - her words make it seem more like a "rule".
Hunh, you are correct (and I've never seen that video!). The "least problematic to most problematic" does definitely stand. That's the most efficient and least disruptive way to do it. I still believe that you can do it in whatever order you want, especially if there is something coming up where the person KNOWS that they will encounter it and want to know now what the impact would be. Reintro is a personal experiment best done in the way outlined but you don't fail your Whole30 if you put toast before dairy.
I guess where I get my reasoning is that if you're doing "slow roll", you don't know what the item is going to be until such time as it comes up. Maybe it's cake or maybe it's bean dip. We wouldn't say "no, no cake until you come across a legume based dish that is worth it first". If you're doing it in the 10 days and want it done the fastest way possible, then following the order they prescribe is your best bet.
Thanks for linking the video, I'm going to go watch it now!
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2 minutes ago, littleg said:
The video seems to say the opposite of this. Was there a point in time where the reintro order because a suggestion rather than not quite a rule but more than a suggestion?
Thanks for the link to the video, btw, I'd never seen that before!
I don't know what video you're talking about? The reintro order is least problematic to most problematic. Realistically there is no "right way" because some of the things people don't want to bring back, some they need to break out more, some they need more time with. I don't know of any time that the reintro schedule wasn't just a suggestion, although one made with the intent of ordering them from least to most problematic.
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17 minutes ago, lizm said:
does the timeline apply to your second whole 30? i started my 2nd two weeks after i finished my first.
Probably not unless you went completely bezerk in the 2 weeks between your Whole30's.
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2 hours ago, lizzard22 said:
If I do a slow roll reintroduction and focus on specific foods within a food group should I test all foods within that group before moving onto the next or can I choose the order that works best for me?
example:
day 31 peanuts
day 34 gluten free oats
day 37 beans
and so on but not doing all legumes befor moving onto gluten free grains?
You can choose whatever order works for you. What do you mean not doing all legumes? You don't have to separate peas, black beans, pinto beans etc.
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3 minutes ago, Marlene B said:
I am on day 3, I am tired and light headed. I don’t eat dairy or much sugar, I did drink wine or beer a few times a week. I just feel empty & tired. Hope it doesn’t last long.
It's impossible to give any specific feedback to possibly help you feel better without some information. Create a thread in the Troubleshooting section of the forum and list out your food from the last 3 days including exercise, sleep, stress, portions, fluids etc.
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12 minutes ago, tcarson said:
This may or may not apply to those of you with headaches, but I'll just mention it anyway. On one of my Whole 30s, I decided to add fermented foods to help with gut issues. I normally get a migraine (same mechanism as a headache) one or twice a year. That month I got TWO within two weeks. So fermented foods can be a migraine/headache trigger for some, even though I believe most of the paleo fermented foods are compliant.
Yes, this has been well-known for over 60 years. It's the tyramine in aged/fermented foods that can be a migraine trigger. "They" always say folks susceptible to migraines should avoid things like aged cheeses and cured meats etc but it's all because of tyramine which is also found in sauerkraut, kimchi, kombucha.
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Public Service Announcement:
The group threads in this section of the forum can be extremely fast moving and as such, the volunteer moderators have a hard time keeping up with reading the hundreds of posts that go whizzing by.
That said, if you are struggling or something doesn't seem right or you need some specific help, please create a new post in the Troubleshooting Your Whole30 portion of the forum. Make the title of your post as specific as possible to assist in getting a response sooner. For example, titling your post "Can't Break the 3pm Slump!" rather than just "Someone Please Help!" makes it quicker for the moderators to understand and assist you.
The moderators try to get to everything and we appreciate your patience but members following this outline is one of the ways that you can help us to help you!
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@Shippy - it could be carb flu. It could be sodium (depending on how much processed/packaged food you used to eat). It could just be undereating. Try a different fat source. 1/2 tbsp of olive oil isn't much. Make sure you have adequate fat at every meal.
Having headaches at the beginning is pretty common. My first Whole30 I had one for 14 days. Take advil or tylenol, you don't have to suffer.
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I know there are "best gadgets" and "kitchen tools" threads all over in the back pages of the forum but sometimes it's fun to see a current list for new folks. Plus, there's new and awesome stuff out there!
If you've done a Whole30 before, what would you suggest our January starters put on their Christmas lists that would help them in their Whole30? I'll start:
- mason jars for storing/freezing leftover soups, bone broth, sauces, dressings
- good quality food storage containers (eg, glass or stoneware)
- immersion blender for mayo, dressings, blended soups
- cast iron or ceramic frying pan - leftovers tossed into a fry pan and reheated (maybe w/ an egg on top) is a super quick anytime meal!
- microplane
- large, high quality sheet pan
- crock pot
- good quality chopping knife
- vegetable peeler
- silicone muffin pan
- instant pot
- spiralizer
- Whole30 books, cookbooks etc
OK, let's help build the list! Reply below and I'll add your responses to this first post as well as an easy reference guide!
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31 minutes ago, Dyann said:
I am not experiencing the same side effects as the calendar specifies. I don't drink soda and rarely have alcohol. My problem is massive carb and chocolate/sugar overloads. I am on day 6 and feeling light headed and a bit nauseous today. I'm not sure what it means if I don't experience the same symptoms as specified. I am still exercising, but dont have the same energy and strength as before. I am easily tired while working out now. I would have thought that would get better with healthier food. Any thoughts?
What have you been eating the last six days @Dyann? It's hard for us to give directed feedback without knowing what you've been doing. It sounds to me like you are not eating enough (nausea, lightheaded). Lacking energy and strength and tiring easily is pretty common in the first couple weeks while your body converts to being fat adapted. Open a new thread in troubleshooting and give a rundown on what you've been eating. Include portions and specific foods. Fluids, stress, sleep, exercise, pre and post workout food etc are all relevant.
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On 02/10/2017 at 5:17 AM, anniejean83 said:
Is my scoby supposed to sink to the bottom of my container once I add it to sweet tea and started tea to brew? Grew my first scoby at home and now my first batch! Thanks in advance!
Sinking and floating are both normal. Your new batch should grow a new Scoby on the surface as it goes through the fermentation process.
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29 minutes ago, Delicacious said:
Hi all, I've a question on re-intro. My husband and I are thinking of going on the fast track, but we do have events coming up on the weekend so I'm not quite sure how that's going to work out. We might end up doing somewhat of a slow roll but we're afraid that we may not end up knowing what's actually causing issues. Day 30 is tomorrow. Any how, I'm thinking of introducing soy first because Asian food has lots of soy, and we might not introduce the rest of the legumes because we really don't eat that much of it. IF soy does not give us any issue, does it mean that during the next intro day, we can keep some soy in the picture (e.g. soy sauce in marinates) or do we have to revert to total whole 30 + said intro food group (e.g. gluten free grains like rice?)
Hope my question makes sense. Thank you!
Each item that you reintroduce is to be done on a completely clear framework. Ie, if you introduce soy first, you eat Whole30 for a couple of days to see how you react and then you move on to the next item. Each item is done alone.
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4 hours ago, Annayllop said:
I'm still confused... should I follow the reintroduction schedule in the book (so starting with dairy), or what's on the website (start with legumes).
The suggestions in the book and online for the order of reintroductions are just suggestions. You are free to do it in whatever order you prefer. If I recall correctly, the website one is in order of least likely to be problematic through most likely......but there is no "right order". Also know that you do not HAVE to reintroduce things you know you won't be eating again or things you already know give you trouble. For example in my house we do not ever, ever eat soy. So no need to introduce it. And I already know that dairy gives me trouble so I wouldn't test that either.
It's a personal experiment, do it how you feel is right for you.
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Take a look through the Ladies Only section of the forum, there are several (read: A LOT!) of threads about being early or late, spotting, on the pill, not on the pill etc. Many, many women have shared their experiences there, you're sure to find a wealth of testimonies. That said, yes, normally irregular bleeding during one's first Whole30 is common but as we are not medical professionals we must tell you to seek out professional help if you are at all concerned. No one here is medically trained.
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27 minutes ago, Barbara Connolly said:
Since this is the egg thread I thought I'd ask my questions here.
I'm doing my second Whole30 because I didn't reintroduce well and my achy joints and fatigue have returned. I'm 54 and was diagnosed with Celiacs a year ago. I've been eating eggs every day and I'm on day 21 and still have achy joints. Should I not be eating eggs every day or at all? Should I be doing the autoimmune protocol? After the Whole30 the first time, I had virtually no pain and I ate eggs every day. And I LOVE eggs.
Hi Barbara, eggs can be inflammatory to some people. The only way to know if you are one of those people is to try eliminating them and see how you do. No one here can really say whether or not it'll help you, you just have to test it out.
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@Cathy125 - when you use juice, how long are you leaving it in second fermentation for? I only use juice and mine is always very fizzy, sometimes excessively so.
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I don't know what "BC" is - but you can take whatever normal headache medicine you normally take. We don't want you to suffer.