Carmen Cosentino Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 One tip: Pack peppermint tea or peppermint leaves for after lunch. I know when I did my first whole30 I missed chewing gum after eating. I found peppermint tea was refreshing and I didn't have the leftover taste or smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted February 9, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 9, 2016 Later while shopping I ran across Coconut Coffee creamer so I'm hoping that will be better. What's in the coconut coffee creamer? Be sure you've read the label. I'd also point out that the rules have this to say about coffee creamer: *A few off-limits foods that fall under this rule include pancakes, bread, tortillas, biscuits, muffins, cupcakes, cookies, pizza crust, waffles, cereal, potato chips, French fries, and this one recipe where eggs, date paste, and coconut milk are combined with prayers to create a thick, creamy concoction that can once again transform your undrinkable black coffee into sweet, dreamy caffeine. However, this list is not limited to these items—there may be other foods that you find are not psychologically healthy for your Whole30. Use your best judgment with those foods that aren’t on this list, but that you suspect are not helping you change your habits or break those cravings. Trust me, it's not that we want to torture you and make you drink icky tasting stuff. We just want you to really think about why you're drinking it, and whether it's really the coffee you want, or whether it's a sweet treat for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelemybelle Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 https://daily.whole30.com thanks, I knew the link but I meant I hadn't signed up in time to start on day 1, it was saying day 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa811 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I started yesterday as well (Feb. 8). Would love to check in with people with the same start date so that we can compare and commiserate! I used all of January to read the books, try out some of the recipes, and "practice." Started officially yesterday. Yesterday went great. I had some nausea today (which I didn't expect so soon), but I made myself eat lunch anyway, and after a few bites I felt fine. Not looking forward to the "kill all the things" stage, but we can get through it together! P.S. Loving the recipes I've tried so far - more than I thought I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margotron Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 My meal prep took 3+ hours last night - is that normal, or am I just a huge rookie in the kitchen? I think that's normal. I spent 3 hours just reading recipes, planning meals, and putting together my grocery shopping list on Sunday. Cooking took about another 2-3 (but I also cleaned my fridge out, which took 45 min or so). I am still spending 1.5 hours making meals when I get home from work ... which is about 1.25 hours more than I'm used to. I think that's going to be the hardest part for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margotron Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Starting today! Is it normal to have headaches the first day? I had headaches all day yesterday which was also Day 1 for me. So I hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margotron Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Day 0: hours and hours of prep. my kitchen was cleaned out and ready! Day 1: headaches and brain fog. My hubby helped me cook Nom Nom Big-O Burgers with tomato basil salad, and I went to bed early so satisfied! Day 2: not so much brain fog and a little more energy. I've been eating lots of veggies and my stomach is doing some...interesting things. Looking forward to day 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissfulnewme Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 How was everyone's day 1 and 2? I had strong cravings for gluten free pancakes (with chocolate!) both days but I didn't give in and I noticed the craving would just disappear! I was also unprepared for this round, but I'm keeping it basic until I get the inspiration to throw in some new ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yesterday went pretty well for me. I did have the craving for a snack at around 3pm (something I'm hoping to wean off during these 30 days). I had an apple and almond butter and it totally hit the spot for me (which was surprising, actually... since I've been used to crackers and cheese or something noncompliant in the past!). It's a bit harder to tell at the start, but if you find you're regularly hungry at 3pm, your meal before might be too far away, or too small. thanks, I knew the link but I meant I hadn't signed up in time to start on day 1, it was saying day 0. Don't worry if you're a little behind, we don't always match the timelines exactly. The 0 day email still has lots of good info in it. The full timeline is here: http://whole30.com/2013/08/revised-timeline/ If anyone hasn't started yet and wants the emails, depending on your timezone you may want to sign up a whole day early, so they arrive at the start of your day. I really like the emails myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcblackburn1020 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's a bit harder to tell at the start, but if you find you're regularly hungry at 3pm, your meal before might be too far away, or too small. Thank you- I have been eating lunch at 11am since that's a convenient time in my schedule for the day. I think you're right that it might be too early. Pushed it back to 11:30 today and will try to keep pushing it back until after noon if I can make it work with my day! Thanks for your feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacie2816 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Hi! I started on February 8th also. I didn't know you could sign up for an email so I just did that. Hopefully I am not too late in signing up that it will not be beneficial. Saturday I cleaned out the refrigerators and shopped for the correct foods for the week 1 plan. Sunday I did the food prep to be ready for Monday. I did okay both Monday and Tuesday, but today the headaches have started. I am ready for this stage to be over already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Don't worry if you or the emails don't match the timeline exactly. http://whole30.com/2013/08/revised-timeline/ It's a guideline. I've done Whole30 quite a few times and I'm always interested in how it can vary each time, with KAAT coming earlier or later (once not at all!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel0118 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 That's good to know about the timeline. This is my first Whole30 and I'm on day 4 and I'm actually feeling pretty good! I've been compliant but I did at times feel like maybe I was doing something wrong because I haven't felt like killing anything yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galleychef Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Day4 soon to be complete. So some interesting learnings for me - i have not had as many cravings as I expected and the old "fish and broccoli" thought really works to tell me I am just craving and not hungry. Yesterday, day 3 I wasn't really hungry at all which is very unlike me. I am sleeping better - last night all the way through without the need for a loo visit !! Today, i did my brain training on Luminosity and got my top score ever so my brain is functioning fine with no nasty sugar and very little in the way of dense carbs at all!! Gosh by the end of tomorrow we will be 1/6 of the way through. Hope you all going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleighwex Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Ah! I made beef brisket in the crock pot today and was so excited to come home to a dinner ready to go. I took a bite of the brisket to try it and it was delicious. The box of beef broth I used with the brisket was sitting on the counter and I picked it up and realized it has honey in it! I only took one bite of the meat, do I have to start over?! Kicking myself for not looking at the ingredients at the grocery store or before I poured it in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted February 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 12, 2016 Ah! I made beef brisket in the crock pot today and was so excited to come home to a dinner ready to go. I took a bite of the brisket to try it and it was delicious. The box of beef broth I used with the brisket was sitting on the counter and I picked it up and realized it has honey in it! I only took one bite of the meat, do I have to start over?! Kicking myself for not looking at the ingredients at the grocery store or before I poured it in... Read this article, and decide for yourself. You're not the first (and almost certainly won't be the last) to learn the hard way to always read your labels. My first Whole30, a few days in, I had a cup of tea, and then looked at the ingredients, and there was soy lecithin. Still a little angry about that one -- why in the world do you need soy in tea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleighwex Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Read this article, and decide for yourself. You're not the first (and almost certainly won't be the last) to learn the hard way to always read your labels. My first Whole30, a few days in, I had a cup of tea, and then looked at the ingredients, and there was soy lecithin. Still a little angry about that one -- why in the world do you need soy in tea? Thank you for the link Shannon. Very helpful. I think I am not going to "start over" per se, but extend my Whole 30 by an extra 4 days. Mentally I think it will help me to continue on to day 5, while still reaping the benefits of 30 straight days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 My first Whole30, a few days in, I had a cup of tea, and then looked at the ingredients, and there was soy lecithin. Still a little angry about that one -- why in the world do you need soy in tea? I too am still angry about my own soy tea experience. I even wrote them an angry letter as they had added it. They assured me that the soy was required to properly brew tea! I decided I didn't trust them to make food I was going to be eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted February 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 12, 2016 They assured me that the soy was required to properly brew tea! Yeah, right, required to brew properly. Because for the hundreds and hundreds of years people have been brewing soy-less tea, it's been wrong. <rolls eyes> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katydid Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hey, y'all. I realize I'm coming into this pretty late, but what can I say? It's been a busy week (of food prep)! I also started on February 8. So far, so good, though I'm already getting bored with my veggies (and I like veggies more than most people I know). This weekend I'm on the hunt for some new vegetables to try and new recipes for the ones I've been eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted February 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hey, y'all. I realize I'm coming into this pretty late, but what can I say? It's been a busy week (of food prep)! I also started on February 8. So far, so good, though I'm already getting bored with my veggies (and I like veggies more than most people I know). This weekend I'm on the hunt for some new vegetables to try and new recipes for the ones I've been eating. If you haven't found it yet, check out Mel Joulwan's site -- most of her recipes are W30 or easily altered to be W30, and she has tons of veggie recipes. I love her Belly Dance Beet Salad, and I didn't think I actually liked beets before having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samnkelli Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hi all. I am a Feb 8th starter, feeling great but the anger phase has definitely begun for me. It's brutal. On a somewhat related note, I need some advice. My husband is taking part on this journey with me...he is an extremely picky eater, has had IBS and allergies for many years -- but he is not one to really think too much about it, he has just accepted these health issues without really wanting to figure out causes, etc. and this drives me absolutely nuts. But I digress. He takes a claritin for his allergies and the IBS is intermittent but no fun when it hits (TMI, sorry). I was so thrilled to learn that Whole30 could help him tackle IBS as I always suspected it was something he was eating (It All Starts with FOOD!), so I prepped and planned and so thrilled to find soo many great recipes I knew he would like. So, off we went on our Whole30 journey.....until last night. I came home from work, he opened the door and he looked as white as a sheet. He said he is having an allergic reaction, he was covered in hives and was so itchy he could barely stand still. We remained calm, as I knew panicking was the worst thing to do, he popped a benadryl...and I started drilling him about what he had eaten. I also searched the Whole30 forums to see if this was a common occurrence and I read numerous other posts about this happening to fellow Whole30'ers and this thing called "histamine intolerance". We debated about going to the ER or waiting for the benadryl to kick in. We waited, the antihistamines kicked in and he felt a bit better. But that is when he pronounced that "this diet thing isn't working for me". And I lost it. Because all my prepping and planning of healthy meals -- something he ate had caused him to have a horrible and scary reaction. And he wants no part of it, and is ready to throw in the towel. So, I started reading about high histamine foods, what foods to avoid, and read him the list. OMG. Everything we have been eating was on that list..... I'm reading everything I can about histamine sensitivity...and I'm overwhelmed and honestly, exhausted. Has he always had this issue and is THIS is the root cause of his IBS, unexplainable body soreness, allergies? Did he have such a bad a reaction because his gut flora is changing which is making him more sensitive to histamines? Will a DAO supplement help? I am trying to educate myself of the foods to avoid, etc. but how do you convince someone who is just along for the ride to stick with Whole30 after a reaction like that? I really really want him to see this through... Thoughts? Advice? Thanks all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted February 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hi all. I am a Feb 8th starter, feeling great but the anger phase has definitely begun for me. It's brutal. On a somewhat related note, I need some advice. My husband is taking part on this journey with me...he is an extremely picky eater, has had IBS and allergies for many years -- but he is not one to really think too much about it, he has just accepted these health issues without really wanting to figure out causes, etc. and this drives me absolutely nuts. But I digress. He takes a claritin for his allergies and the IBS is intermittent but no fun when it hits (TMI, sorry). I was so thrilled to learn that Whole30 could help him tackle IBS as I always suspected it was something he was eating (It All Starts with FOOD!), so I prepped and planned and so thrilled to find soo many great recipes I knew he would like. So, off we went on our Whole30 journey.....until last night. I came home from work, he opened the door and he looked as white as a sheet. He said he is having an allergic reaction, he was covered in hives and was so itchy he could barely stand still. We remained calm, as I knew panicking was the worst thing to do, he popped a benadryl...and I started drilling him about what he had eaten. I also searched the Whole30 forums to see if this was a common occurrence and I read numerous other posts about this happening to fellow Whole30'ers and this thing called "histamine intolerance". We debated about going to the ER or waiting for the benadryl to kick in. We waited, the antihistamines kicked in and he felt a bit better. But that is when he pronounced that "this diet thing isn't working for me". And I lost it. Because all my prepping and planning of healthy meals -- something he ate had caused him to have a horrible and scary reaction. And he wants no part of it, and is ready to throw in the towel. So, I started reading about high histamine foods, what foods to avoid, and read him the list. OMG. Everything we have been eating was on that list..... I'm reading everything I can about histamine sensitivity...and I'm overwhelmed and honestly, exhausted. Has he always had this issue and is THIS is the root cause of his IBS, unexplainable body soreness, allergies? Did he have such a bad a reaction because his gut flora is changing which is making him more sensitive to histamines? Will a DAO supplement help? I am trying to educate myself of the foods to avoid, etc. but how do you convince someone who is just along for the ride to stick with Whole30 after a reaction like that? I really really want him to see this through... Thoughts? Advice? Thanks all!! I don't know a whole lot about histamine stuff, so I'm not going to be much help there. It is my understanding that it's one of those things that for some people, they can have some, but there's a point where their body has had enough, and at that point they can't have any more or they get a reaction, and everyone's level of tolerance is different. So it's not necessarily that he'd never be able to eat those foods again, only that he needs to not eat them for a while, and then figure out what he can tolerate in what amounts. As for how you convince someone who is just along for the ride to stick with a Whole30 -- you can't. Truly, you are not responsible for your husband's health. If he wants to bury his head in the sand and ignore his problems and continue to feel sick and take medicine to treat symptoms, he's an adult and he can do that, and unfortunately, there's not really any good way to get him to change his mind. What you can do is lead by example -- do what feels good for you, don't let his failure to commit derail your commitment to learning about your body and what foods you need to eat to be healthy. If he asks questions, answer them. If you find a particularly helpful book or article that explains things about histamine that you think would help him understand, leave it laying around somewhere where he'll maybe pick it up and read it. For the meals you share, cook healthy stuff, doing your best to accommodate the low-histamine stuff so that he can see it can be tasty. Don't nag him or comment when he has something unhealthy, don't say "I told you so" if he goes off the rails completely and has an IBS flare up. If he sees you thriving and sees that the healthy food can be tasty, and if he gets to a point where he's tired of being sick all the time, he may come around on his own. Or he may not, and that's not your fault, and it's not your responsibility. And I realize that all of this is easy for me to say, and much harder for you to live with. This article from Robb Wolf is a good one that addresses this question, you might find it an interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 There have been a number of histamine sensitive people on these forums, so you may find some great content doing some Google searching. Three items that often surprise people are vinegar, Kombucha and any other kind of fermented item (like veggies). These can be consumed in high volumes quite easily (especially fermented items). Beer is often something that causes a lot of problems as people don't want to give it up (not W30 compliant). Some people find best results only eating freshly made food as histamine rises over time in leftovers (why fermented things are SO high). If you've been doing bulk cooking this could have increased your daily histamine levels. If you can figure out anything different he ate, it might be a particular trigger for him, but sometimes it's more like filling a cup, you can add little amounts, but when you reach the top it overflows. If you find the level of the cup that won't overflow and he still feels good and maintain it, he may see some improvements. Fruits, nuts and hives can also be a common linkage as they have some different enzymes and things in them. There's a low histamine shopping list here: http://whole9life.com/2013/06/expanded-iswf-shopping-lists/ This is someone who did a low histamine Whole30: http://pinkertonhannah.blogspot.com.au/2014/10/low-histamine-whole30-results.html There's some general info here on histamine: http://paleoleap.com/histamines/ You may want to find a histamine specialist for your husband. If he's had a bit of a scare he may not want to try anything else new for awhile and medical advice may help with this. Being scared of food can be very stressful, so he may need some time to absorb things. Although it probably doesn't feel like good news right now, you *know* something has triggered him feeling much worse. The good part is that if you can figure out what it is and eliminate it, he may never need to feel like that ever again. On a side note for ongoing change, I first tried to push my partner isn't doing Whole30 with me and he really wasn't interested. However, I've found over time, even though he isn't interested, without me saying anything, he has changed what he eats (he doesn't have any health problems). He now refuses to eat some junky things altogether, eats a lot less grains and once or twice I've even seen him reading a label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdybing Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 There are histamine blocking products you can take. Easy to find and I just googled them on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=HIST+dao I used to work for a Naturopath and a lot of people took them and I think it helped them a lot. If there are naturopaths in your city, he could go to one to get some advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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