thenewdrl Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 Tonight I cannot stop eating. Three burger patties, two servings mayo, three bowls of soup, large salad dressed with olive oil. Help. I think maybe my lunch and breakfast were too small?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I'm with Carlaccini - meatballs aren't that substantial unless they are huge. You could easily have had a few more.As for the salmon - are we taking smoked or fillets? I asked before but you didn't clarify.... If it's smoked then you need a whole lot more than one slice... and even if it's a fillet they are usually quite small and I'd personally have gone for two.You seem to be spot on with veggies & fat, but the protein is what will carry you the 4-5hrs you are aiming for. The recommendation for 1-2 palm sized pieces is the minimum, if you need to eat more to carry you those 4-5 hrs then please do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannlib Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I also think you are still way light on the protein. And that you are really struggling with it being okay to eat a lot of food. And that you have a good dose of dessert habit - does any of this resonate?http://whole9life.com/2012/12/dessert-demons-in-disguise/ So it seems like you are preparing yourself too small meals. Then being hungry, and eating more. Then more. Then just a little more. Then just one final thing more. I would suggest preparing yourself gigantic meals. Like, huge. Top end of template and then some. Double or even triple what you are currently putting on your plate. 6 meatballs. 2 or even 3 pieces of salmon. Mixing bowl full of salad. Ditto soup. Then eat. Until you feel satitated. Then stop. Full stop, for 4-5 hours till your next huge meal. If you get hungry before 4-5 hours you need to be eating more of that meal. If you don't notice you're hungry for 8 maybe you could scale it back a little. I'm not saying stuff yourself just prepare big enough meals to quit that just something more habit. You could also try rounding off your meal with herbal tea. This is broadly what I do ..... Once my plate is clear I don't have anything else, so I make sure my plate was full enough to start with that when it's gone, I'm full. Does that make any sense?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 Will try that today! Thanks for your help! Breakfast was two slices of salmon- this is salmon fillet I buy it sliced so I'm not sure how much is in each slice. Sautéed pan of spinach zucchini mushrooms and onions. Two mini sweet potatoes. Coconut oil in my coffee. Lunch will be on the go- two burger patties with 3 cups sautéed cabbage/carrots and a half an avocado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmary Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 this is salmon fillet I buy it sliced so I'm not sure how much is in each slice. but you do! tell us how big each slice is, length, width and thickness, and we will be better able to gauge if you are eating enough protein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 the salmon varys in size. most pieces are about two fingers wide, 4-5ish inches long and maybe half an inch thick... i have eaten according to the meal template for a week! im very proud of myself. although, today i was starving even though i spent the day at home doing nothing... seems my sugar cravings are learning to quiet down- getting rid of any temptation and foods without brakes definitely helped. i do desperately want to lose weight, should i eat smaller portions? i have many health problems that i would like to deal with and will be doing whole30 for as long as i can- i never eat off paleo anyway as according to my functional this is the diet i need to be on for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcbn Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 If you have health problems that you are dealing with then your body is likely focusing on that for now and using the food for nourishment to that end. I'd stick with the quantity you're eating so long as it is keeping you satiated for 4-5 hrs, and focus on the NSVs you get as a result as & when you experience them - a drop in sugar cravings is a good one for starters!As your body heals if you are carrying more weight than you need (rather than more weight than you'd like) then you may well start to shed. For now restricting your food intake will be counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmary Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 the salmon varys in size. most pieces are about two fingers wide, 4-5ish inches long and maybe half an inch thick... For reference, my hands are 5-fingers wide ( ), palms about 4-5 inches square and averaging around an inch thick. If yours are similar, know that you could be eating 4-5 of these slices at each meal, or even more if you are hungry. Eating even less than you have been is NOT the way to weight loss. Trust the program and try to follow the template without restriction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 how many ounces would you say? for instance, this morning i had turkey balls for breakfast- theres ten per lb of turkey- i had four and was still hungry so i had 3 more. thats 3/4 of a lb of turkey. thats alot for a meal no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andria Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Hi, I know I have not been in on this thread from the start, but I wanted to jump in, I hope you don't mind. It seems you are overthinking things: we truly want you to use the meal template and your hunger cues as a guide and not calories or ounces based on what you might have learned to believe is what you *should* be eating. Hold those meatballs in your palm. I would bet 4 meatballs would be close to or a bit more than your palm size. You said you were still hungry after 4 so you ate 3 more. Good! This probably fell somewhere between 1-2 palms worth of protein. Don't over analyze the fact that you ate 3/4 lb of protein. It looks like you may have been undereating protein in the meals you listed previously, so your body probably needs to catch up. Make your breakfast the biggest meal of the day. If you don't eat enough at breakfast, it will be difficult to 'catch-up' with your hunger later in the day. If I even think I am a little bit hungry after I finish my breakfast, I add a bit more protein and possibly fat. If I don't I am craving and snacking the rest of the day. Despite being a small female, I have gotten past the thoughts that "this is too much food' long ago. For reference, I eat 3 eggs plus a decent size chicken/apple sausage for most breakfasts. Also, be sure you aren't being distracted by the TV, internet or reading material while you are eating so you can recognize your hunger cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Hi, I know I have not been in on this thread from the start, but I wanted to jump in, I hope you don't mind. It seems you are overthinking things: we truly want you to use the meal template and your hunger cues as a guide and not calories or ounces based on what you might have learned to believe is what you *should* be eating. Hold those meatballs in your palm. I would bet 4 meatballs would be close to or a bit more than your palm size. You said you were still hungry after 4 so you ate 3 more. Good! This probably fell somewhere between 1-2 palms worth of protein. Don't over analyze the fact that you ate 3/4 lb of protein. It looks like you may have been undereating protein in the meals you listed previously, so your body probably needs to catch up. Make your breakfast the biggest meal of the day. If you don't eat enough at breakfast, it will be difficult to 'catch-up' with your hunger later in the day. If I even think I am a little bit hungry after I finish my breakfast, I add a bit more protein and possibly fat. If I don't I am craving and snacking the rest of the day. Despite being a small female, I have gotten past the thoughts that "this is too much food' long ago. For reference, I eat 3 eggs plus a decent size chicken/apple sausage for most breakfasts. Also, be sure you aren't being distracted by the TV, internet or reading material while you are eating so you can recognize your hunger cues. thank you Andria!!! just want to make sure i am doing this right!!! also would the timeline not be applicable for people with many health issues? im on day 12- i did have my doubts about keeping on whole30-ing yesterday...but the boundless energy and the detox stage earlier hasnt happened...im just going to keep on doing whole30...it does get tough when on the go as i dont eat eggs or nuts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andria Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yes, the Timeline can be skewed a bit for some people and certainly if you have some health issues to work through you may find it takes you a bit longer to reach increased energy levels. Some people report it taking a full 2 weeks before they have improved energy levels. Don't give up, you are doing great and clearly are trying very hard. You don't want all your hard work to go to waste, do you? As for portable on-the-go food items try tuna or salmon in foil packets (check labels for soy or other non-compliant ingredients); Epic Bars (check the labels, most are compliant, but the Bison contain brown sugar)https://epicbar.comor Chompsticks http://www.gochomps.com/collections/all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 i want to quit. there, i said it. i have never felt more sick. my body doesnt feel like its me. i dont look like myself. my clothes dont fit. ii have no energy. ant complete my work outs. nauseous all the time. constipated. bloated. cant sleep- cant fall asleep and then when i do i wake up two hours later and am up for the night. also the eating before working out- not working for me, i almost threw up this morning. what gives? i am sitting at work with aa migraine, tryig to keep my eyes open...cant wait to get home and crawl into bed. no energy to do anything. also extremely irritable- for no reason a random strangers nose will piss me off...WHAT??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 i want to quit. I'm sorry you're having a rough time. I understand you have several health issues, have been at a Whole30 for over a month, and are working with a functional medicine practitioner. Perhaps it's time to cycle back with your functional medicine practitioner, discuss your current status, share a few days of your typical food log and symptoms. Get their suggestions for where to go from here, as they have a more complete picture of you and the medical background to give you advice on where to go from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 he thinks i just need to breathe...i want to go to yoga tonight but i have no energy i eat whole30 -nightshades, eggs and nuts for life...the only thing i have changed is meals and amounts of food...could be that i just need to work through these symptoms or they arent related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 he thinks i just need to breathe...i want to go to yoga tonight but i have no energy I would follow the advice of your practitioner. If you feel you don't have the energy for yoga, just breathe. Sit in a comfortable position, and watch your in and out breath. When thoughts come into your head, just gently escort your attention back to observing your in and out breath. Notice, without judgment. Alternatively, do something that relaxes you. Call a trusted friend, do a craft or puzzle, read, take a bubble bath, paint your nails, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 I would follow the advice of your practitioner. If you feel you don't have the energy for yoga, just breathe. Sit in a comfortable position, and watch your in and out breath. When thoughts come into your head, just gently escort your attention back to observing your in and out breath. Notice, without judgment. Alternatively, do something that relaxes you. Call a trusted friend, do a craft or puzzle, read, take a bubble bath, paint your nails, whatever. will attempt ^^^ Thank you for hearing me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Help!!! I've been doing really well last couple of days - that's why you haven't heard from me...I was eating three meals and usually a post work out meal and was able to go many many hours in between meals...then yesterday it was so hot and I didn't work out many days this week, I'm trying to see if it'll help my adrenals and energy levels...I bought some grapes to have before my religious fast which starts tonight. I ate like 3/4 of the bag in one sitting!!!!! I thought maybe I'm still hungry so I made a second plate of dinner...then I went to my friends house and had some of her chicken soup (could that even be non compliant????) I feel bloated this morning. Do I need to start over??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 I do plan on doing this whole30 for a long while until I feel better and long after the physical changes start happening...but did I break my whole30? I was off nightshades and I know there was a red pepper in her soup that probably caused my bloating and also the grapes didn't help...omg I'm freaking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 First off, BREATHE. Secondly, unless you ask your friend for an ingredient list as to what was in the soup, you don't know whether or not you ate anything off plan.Candidly (and I'm trying to say this in the most gentle way possible), it appears that the thoughts and stories you're creating around the countless "what if's" are making you feel worse than anything you might have eaten. Also, let's not forget you've mentioned your multiple health challenges in the past - I wonder if any of those could be a culprit of your bloating? Whatever you ate, since this is a long term strategy for you, I would just keep on keeping on, along with experimenting with non-food ways to calm and soothe yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 I didn't take my enzymes with my meal 3 yesterday... I'm sorry I'm just looking for some support. I understand it may seem like I'm making up stories. I'm not stressing over this as I am keeping on keeping on...I did ask her what was in the soup- veggies and chicken and water. I am practicing calming relaxing techniques- hello weekly mani pedi massage ...also my thyroid meds needed an adjustment hence my manic attitude last time I posted lol my apologies. Question: if I were to have a second coffee not with my meal can I add in coconut milk without alotting that fat to a specific meal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Btw GFChris I know you meant that post gently, and I am taking it as tough love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFChris Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Question: if I were to have a second coffee not with my meal can I add in coconut milk without alotting that fat to a specific meal? I caution you on overthinking this one. If you enjoy coffee with coconut milk, have it. If it's caffeinated coffee, our recommendation is to avoid caffeine after noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewdrl Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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