Lauraco Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I am having a hard time having a "real" lunch. I'm eating the right things, but it is usually a little bit of leftovers or some nuts and fruit. Does that impact the overall effectiveness of the program because it is more like snacking? Thank you! Laura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Inge, HHC Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 This is the difference between the rules and the recommendations. If you eat ONLY whole 30 approved foods and follow the other rules, you will have done a whole 30. But, if you also follow the recommendations, including: following the meal template eating within an hour of rising eating enough that you can go 4 to 5 hours without eating again no snacking between meals unless you are genuinely hungry (but then start beefing up your actual meals so you can get through without snacks) That is when you will get the best results. So, I'd encourage you to try following the meal template and the other recommendations and see for yourself what results that creates for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura_juggles Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 So, just having some nuts and fruit is a bad plan. It's a hit of sugar along with often tougher to digest fats. Also, zero protein. Could part of the issue just be that you're not prepping an actual template meal for lunch and when you get to lunch time, there's nothing to eat ready? Make the meals, have them ready to go (hard boiled eggs, crudite, and compliant dip of some kind are one of the fastest meals out there assuming you've got the eggs done in the fridge). The effectiveness of the program is impacted when you don't eat enough. Having a snack instead of lunch is effectively cutting your meals by a third and it'll catch up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauraco Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 @Christie Inge, HHC @laura_juggles Thank you both. I wasn't really understanding the concept. I should have read more about the program more before jumping into it! I appreciate the guidelines and reasoning you provided and will straighten up on the program! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Inge, HHC Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 For additional reading, check out this blog post that Melissa wrote about rules vs. recommendations: https://whole30.com/2015/01/rules-recommendations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauraco Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Thanks, @Christie. I followed the timing plan yesterday, and I think I'm on track with it now. I can see why it is good to put it in place to control the snacking habit. And I need that! I haven't been able to discipline myself in the food/drink area for years, the longest I've been on a "diet" would be about a week, and then I would cave. For some reason I decided to do this - for myself and my health and pain as much as weight - and I have been able to stick to it. I jumped right in without much planning besides looking at what you could/couldn't eat, making a grocery list, getting the stuff and sticking to it. I had to take advantage of the self-discipline that came knocking at my door and run with it right away! Now I am backing up and reading, what I assume, most people read before starting. So thank you for the additional recommendation. I welcome any and all recommendations. I work full time and I keep sneaking time in to read about Whole30 and find recipes - eek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauraco Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 I am looking at the meal planning guide, and it recommends eating 1-2 open handfuls of coconut or coconut flakes and 1-2 hopen heaping handfuls of olives every day. Is that for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted February 15, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, Lauraco said: I am looking at the meal planning guide, and it recommends eating 1-2 open handfuls of coconut or coconut flakes and 1-2 hopen heaping handfuls of olives every day. Is that for real? At each meal, have one or two of the fat servings listed on the template, so yes, you could have 1-2 handfuls of each of those each day if you want as your fat servings. Fat helps keep you satisfied. It's how you go 4-5 hours between meals without snacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becky_Jo Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Hi all, I'm on Day 7 of my first round ever of Whole30 and this is my first post, thanks in advance. I relate to Lauraco's post about timing... this has been one of the biggest struggles for me so far. This morning I ate within an hour of waking up - breakfast at about 7:30am (smoked salmon, leek and tomato frittata with 1/2 avocado) I really struggled to get it down. I was hungry when I woke up! For lunch (at about 12:45pm) I brought leftover beef 'rustic' stew and I could not eat more than a few bites. It honestly was making me the opposite of hungry and I had a vague metallic taste in the back of my mouth.... gross. I did manage to eat one hardboiled egg. Now it's almost 3 and my stomach is growling! I don't plan to eat again until 6:30pm ... I may have to eat an epic protein/chicken bar. I am really working hard to eat the right amounts per the recommendations at the right times and NOT snack but today it is truly a struggle! I am open to any and all suggestions, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted March 4, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Becky_Jo said: had a vague metallic taste in the back of my mouth. This can sometimes be a sign you've gone lower in carbs than you need to. Try to make sure you have at least a fist-size serving of starchy vegetable each day, and if you're active, prone to depression or anxiety, pregnant, nursing, or in the week or so leading up to your period, you could need more than that. Starchy vegetables include potatoes, sweet potatoes, and other root vegetables like carrots, parsnips, beets, or turnips, or winter squashes like butternut or acorn squash, or plantains. Being hungry when you wake up is good, what made eating a struggle? You could try different foods and see if something is a little easier for you first thing, although if you hang in there and get used to eating first thing, you'll probably get to where you can a wider variety of stuff with no problem. Soup might be a good option, or make a hash like this: https://www.paleorunningmomma.com/paleo-breakfast-hash-whole30-egg-free/. Generally, you should be going 4-5 hours between meals. If you have a larger gap than that, plan a mini-meal to have if you need it -- maybe something like a hard boiled egg, some mayo, and some carrot or celery sticks, or pack a little extra of what you bring for lunch (which might not have worked today, but might be a better option on a day when lunch is tasting better for you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becky_Jo Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 @ShannonM816 Thank You very much! I will make sure I get a serving of starchy veggies each day, I didn’t know about that potential side effect. The hash recipe looks wonderful, I’m going to try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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