Staggolee41 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Hello! Thank you for reading. I'm looking forward to your input. Context: I was at the end of the healing process for two bad ankle sprains (no surgery, same ankle, some bone damage, at-home physical therapy) that occurred within two months of each other. Within the last couple of months, I had been reintroducing cardio that depended on that ankle being solid again. HIIT/sprints, jogging, elliptical, etc, no trouble with ankle (though I am sooo out of shape).: Day 5, late, suddenly experiencing a LOT of pain in the same leg with the bad ankle. Hip-knee-ankle. Persistent off and on since. I know you want to know what I've been eating. Day 5 M1 - Ground beef, hard-boiled egg, tomatoes, avocado Day 5 M2 - Garlic butter chicken, greens, balsamic vinegar, another egg, blueberries Day 5 M2 - Salmon with herbes de Provence, asparagus Day 6 M1 - None (woke up with sore throat, no appetite) Day 6 M2 - Lemon Larabar, jalapeño beef sticks (on the road) Day 6 M3 - Salmon sweet potato cakes with tartar sauce and asparagus Day 7 M1 - Again none, sore throat Day 7 M2 - Three fried eggs, greens with tomatoes and balsamic vinegar Day 7 M2.5 - Several very thin slices of prosciutto Day 7 M3 - Leftover salmon sweet potato cakes and tartar sauce and asparagus I drink between 30 and 70 oz of water every day, along with about 20 oz black coffee. I also grew up loving nightshades and famously have eaten tomatoes like apples all my life. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted June 27, 2016 Moderators Share Posted June 27, 2016 With your history of ankle injuries, I am concerned that the pain is related to your body and not what you are eating. You are not eating nearly enough. You are skipping meals. Eating small snacks in place of meals. And maybe not eating adequate size meals when you do eat a meal. You talk about exercise sessions without listing any post-workout meals. You are drinking enough water if you weigh between 60 pounds on days you drink 30 ounces and 140 pounds on days you drink 70 ounces. We recommend 1/2 ounce of water per pound of body weight per day. Regarding meals... How much to eat http://whole30.com/downloads/whole30-meal-planning.pdf Skipping breakfast is one of the worst things you can do if you want to make progress doing a Whole30. Eating within one hour of waking has a powerful influence on your hormonal rhythms. By not eating meal 1, you are encouraging negative hormonal rhythms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggolee41 Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 Tom - thanks for the help. It's unusual for me to skip a meal - Sat/Sun were exceptions because of my throat, but I have eaten breakfast every other day (including today). For the full meals, the portions are fairly large (typically following what the Whole30 cookbook says), and I do eat until I'm full. I'm definitely not drinking enough water. My concern is that the only thing that has changed recently is the food plan, and that I'm not balancing something well enough. Could increased swelling or pain be related to too much or not enough salt/fat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggolee41 Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'd also note that I have not exercised since beginning the Whole30, as it was recommended to take a break at the beginning. Those were the things I was asked to demonstrate to show the ankle was healed. So... no pre/post-WO meals those days, because I did not exercise those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager07 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Hey there! Saw your post on another page and wanted to check in and see how you're doing! Yes, sitting at the Domain (Cru) and sipping a beverage would be such a treat. Maybe in the future when I've got a better handle on reintroduction and all that jazz.... Yay Austin!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggolee41 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Hey there! Saw your post on another page and wanted to check in and see how you're doing! Yes, sitting at the Domain (Cru) and sipping a beverage would be such a treat. Maybe in the future when I've got a better handle on reintroduction and all that jazz.... Yay Austin!!! Thanks girl! I think I'm going to post a success story thread with all of my benefits - today is Day 31 - but we should have a glass of wine sometime! Also wanted to note to anyone else reading this thread that the joint pain I was experiencing did go away, and speaking with some other people in person who have been down similar paths, they experienced something almost identical in the first week. I would note, though, that all of us - them as well as myself - were beginning very long weight loss journeys, so that may have something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager07 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Congratulations! Way to rock out your 30 days. I look forward to seeing your success story and yes, a glass of wine sounds delightful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBill Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I was reading this because I'm having the same question. Why would joint pain increase in the 5-7 day range? Something has to happen to cause a change from status quo. Bad diet/bad food = no joint pain. Whole 30/health food = joint pain. What is the cause? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ladyshanny Posted February 15, 2018 Administrators Share Posted February 15, 2018 I can't say exactly what the cause is, @BamaBill, but I suspect it's a combination of inflammation, release of toxins, water retention and hormonal adjustment. The key is if it settles out. 7-14 days is what could be considered the "detox" phase depending on a person's previous eating history. If you find it has settled out after that amount of time then it's safe to say it was transitory. If it doesn't, could be worth seeing a doctor to rule out anything more serious (ie, circulation issues etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 You don't say where the joint pain is located but have you ever had a bout with gout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBill Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Pain is in my hands, feet, hips. I have been eating the heck out of tomatoes and potatos, both are nightshades. I plan on cutting those out for a few days to see if things change. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeadowLily Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Good one. Glad you already had an answer and an idea what to try next. For anyone else, most of these questions/answers can be found with a google search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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