Hannah Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 What is lacking in my diet when the two edges of my mouth is sore ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 Just guessing- lack of iron? Maybe I should eat more red meat, what vegetables contains iron? Spinach ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted November 12, 2012 Moderators Share Posted November 12, 2012 I have not heard of a sore mouth as a symptom of a nutrient deficiency. What are you eating? Do you have a food log with a few days of your meals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yes I have tracked them in Hannah's november log, but I have a feeling that there isn't enough red (beef) meat, or quality vegetables in my eating. But I am really full and satisfied, I noticed the soreness last W30 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted November 12, 2012 Moderators Share Posted November 12, 2012 More red meat and veggies should be good. Let us know if it helps with the soreness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yes, I have already brought from the freezer some liver and ground beef - are making "burgers" tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 This is a very common sign of a vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) deficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 Flynn - How do I act (eat) to fix that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhmomi Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Cracked corners of the mouth is what it seems you are describing. It's called angular cheilitis. Could be a fungal infection, riboflavin (B12) deficiency or iron deficiency. I apologize for using wikipedia for the source. It was easier to read than medical websites and seemed to have enough information. http://en.wikipedia....gular_cheilitis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 Thank you all for answering It is most likely because of my diet changes I have got these cracked corners (great explanation - I was really struggeling to describe it). I just have to think more throughly about what I prepare in my meals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliea Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I wouldn't rule out an allergy for something like that. Is there anything that you ate for the first time when doing the Whole30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 I can't think of anything special other than coconut milk. More eggs of course. All the other ingredients have beed in my diet now and then. I'll rather get up my meat and veggie income and see how that turn out, before I eliminate my coconut milk, that is to good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliea Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hah, funny that you mention the coconut milk, because that was exactly what I was thinking of when I mentioned an allergy. I think I recall other people talking about allergies to it. You could try eliminating it for a week, not permanently, and see if it has any effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 I am not happy about it, if it actually is the case. I'm also a bit more heavy breathed these days than I should be. I have asthma, but I have noticed slightly more of it lately ... Hmmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliea Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Well, worth experimenting then. Maybe you'll simply get good news--that coconut is fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 You could try eliminating it for a week, not permanently, and see if it has any effect? Only the milk or the coconut oil too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliea Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 me, I'd get rid of everything related to coconut for the time you're seeing what effect it has to take it away. There's always olive oil! BTW--you'll have to report back about what happens. Now I'm all curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 I am now on my third day without coconut. My sore mouth edges were gone the day after this post. I don't know why but I did have red meat and more vegetables these days. My coconut was still in the diet when it healed. Still, I have my asthmatic breath. I usually don't use ventoline except from when i am excercising. Nowadays I Consider taking the meds without any excercise. I don't think the coconut is the problem of my heavy breathing. I suspect the almonds and nuts are responsible. Shall I still continue without the coconut, AND try without nuts? Or shall I just eliminate the nuts from now on? (I know I am allergic to hazelnuts, itching throat etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliea Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 come to think of it, if something is messing with your breathing, an allergy test might be in order so a doc can tell you exactly what you're allergic to without guessing. People with nut allergies are sometimes allergic to coconut as well, though I gather that's not at all a given. That said, I agree that almonds and other nuts would be suspect if you know you are allergic to hazelnuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Furia Stanfa Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 i had chapped lips and sore mouth edges, which later turned into an allergic reaction from something i was eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Furia Stanfa Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 i think it was the coconut oil that caused the reaction but also maybe cashews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto416 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hi, I'm bumping this thread because I experienced angular cheilitis on day 30 of my whole 30. I eat lots of meat and veggies. lots of liver. is it possible it is a nutrient deficiency in something found in grains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted March 7, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2013 is it possible it is a nutrient deficiency in something found in grains? Grains have very little nutrition. There is nothing in grains that there is not more of in Whole30 foods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia B Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I have same issue that I am trying to reslove. Possible reasons are as was mentioned above 1) infection 2) food sensitivity 3) vitamin deficiency. So having this on hands it's best to rule out the reasons one by one. See doctor to exclude infection. Eliminate possible allergens from diet for a while. Maybe do a blood work to check the vitamin levels? This is what Kresser says: Riboflavin is another key nutrient in the process of converting fat to energy. Once inside the mitochondria, fatty acids can't be “burned†for fuel without riboflavin coenzymes. Riboflavin is found in many foods, including asparagus, bananas, green beans, persimmons, okra, chard, dairy products, meat, eggs and fish. While deficiency due to inadequate dietary intake is rare, other conditions such as intestinal inflammation or dysbiosis can reduce the body's ability to absorb riboflavin and lead to sub-optimal levels. Other signs of riboflavin deficiency include cracked and red lips, inflammation of the lining of mouth and tongue, mouth ulcers and cracks at the corners of the mouth, though these aren't necessarily present in all cases. I think it's best to see doctor if the symptoms are not going away after tweaking your diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthangel077 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 My husband has this same issue. It started in August and hasn't gone away. We tried more iron - didn't help. The doctor gave him a mouth wash for a fungal infection - did not help. We switched out his chalpstick to a better kind - still didn't help. He finally went to the dentist and that dentist said it is probably because he is drooling in his sleep! So we switched sides on the bed so that he can sleep on his other side (he is picky about having to face out from the bed when he sleeps). This just happened this week so we'll see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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