Tevenie Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I am REALLY sorry to ask this because I know it has been asked recently, but I cannot for the life of me find the post. (if someone can point me towards that thread there is no need to answer here) In the book it says potatoes are not bad but are out as they are considered a 'gateway' to other stuff - chips and fries. Is this correct and does it mean that I can eat potatoes again? I am not and have never been much into either chips or fries, but I would like to have the odd baked potato with salad for supper. Thanks Lucinda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derval Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Sure you can have them again after your w30. It's one if the things I'm ok with for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renee Lee Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Lucinda, the only reason why somebody MAY want to keep them out is that they're a nightshade and some folks with autoimmune stuff just don't tolerate that stuff well. It can cause some flare ups. Most of the problems are in the skins, so peeling them's a good idea, but that's just some food for thought. And Derval, that's just cause you're Irish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derval Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Lol, we love our spuds! I totally forgot all that AI stuff, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevenie Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks, funnily enough I don't eat potatoes much - generally I can live without them no problem. I might buy ten or so potatoes a year. But I suddenly just fancied a hot baked potato. Probably just as a vehicle for the lovely mayo I made today! I am actually thinking of moving straight into the AI protocol immediately after I have finished the Whole30 so it could be some time until I get that potato! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Maryann Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 My problem with them is that your body processes them the same as if you ate a spoonful of sugar. They convert very quickly. So they cause an insulin spike. Someone correct me if I have this wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renee Lee Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 That's not really true. A spoonful of sugar (♫ helps the medicine go down...the medicine go dooown ♫) contains 100% sucrose, which is glucose and fructose. It's processed by the body in (basically) the following way: a) quickly break the bond holding the glucose and fructose together glucose is absorbed and gets dropped into any and every cell that needs it c) fructose gets shipped off to the liver to be converted into either glucose, then glycogen and stored in the liver, or fat a white potato is starch, which is a bunch of glucose molecules strung together. Those bonds are the same type of body, but because there are so many of them, it takes longer to break it all down (slower blood sugar spike than sugar). There's no fructose in starch, so you don't have to worry about anything getting shipped off to the liver...instead it just gets circulated to whatever needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournegirl Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I am sensitive to starches (even arrowroot which is tapioca). I havent yet tested white potatoes specifically, I probably will at some stage but from what I have heard, sweet potatoes are a better choice (more vitamins and minerals? less starch? slower to digest?) Hopefully Renee can answer this. So I guess my question/comment is.... if you are happy to have sweet potatoes instead and dont really miss white potatoes, then would it be better to have sweet potatoes? Or doesnt it really matter unless you are nightshade sensitive. I take it sweet potatoes arent nightshades then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renee Lee Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 It doesn't really matter. If you don't miss 'em, keep them out. I never liked white potatoes, but a twice baked potato, loaded with sour cream, cheddar cheese and bacon? sign me up. I'll have one of those, maybe once a year? It's not enough to add it into the regular rotation, but it's there every now and then. As far as nutrients, sweet potatoes have beta-carotene and all that good stuff that you find in other orange foods, BUT Mat Lalonde, Harvard smart guy, put together a nutrient density spreadsheet last August, and white potatoes actually performed BETTER than sweet potatoes for minerals and vitamins (not vitamin A, obviously. Orange food's got that one in the bag). His values were NOT adjusted for bioavailability, so we don't actually know what it means besides, "don't write white potatoes off long term" And Juzbo, I know that sweet potatoes have a lower glycemic index than white potatoes (meaning it's digested slower), but I don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournegirl Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Thanks Renee, thats great... I will investigate further re the glycaemic index, often its not important unless you eat the food alone. At the moment I have converted all the family to sweet potatoes as they are cheaper than white just now but good to know I can go back the other way when the price switches again most likely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournegirl Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Just googled and found out that sweet potatoes and white potatoes have the same starch content raw but sweet potato starch content halves when cooked - probably because of the conversion of some of the starch to sugar (thinking of what happens when you bake them and a sugary syrup oozes out). Also interesting to note that the starch content of carrots and pumpkins is still really low despite them being a good source of carbs. I guess this is only helpful if the starch is tolerated less than sugar... which it might be for some people depending on the type and amount of resistant starch...aaargh its all too hard... but convinces me even more to stay away from grain based starches and stick to vegetable ones only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevenie Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 I am delighted to hear this and so glad I asked the question. Thank you for the replies. I am one of those odd people who really don't like sweet potato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournegirl Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Ha, not odd if you are Irish?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Strathdee Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I am delighted to hear this and so glad I asked the question. Thank you for the replies. I am one of those odd people who really don't like sweet potato. Just for double and triple clarification: No white taters DURING your W30, but a good option for after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevKT Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I have read so many Paleo books now that I can't remember all the rules. For after Whole30, if we are eating Paleo, are white potatoes Paleo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon Simpson Thumann Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I don't miss the taters much, except on very rare occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournegirl Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well they are whole9 approved/allowed... as to whether they are paleo, that depends on who you ask... to some people dairy is paleo I believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenderbender Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Citric_acid_cycle_with_aconitate_2.svg This is exactly what happens when you eat any carbohydrate ..... Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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