nuthatch Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 My husband and I just started our first Whole30 yesterday! I'm concerned about him getting enough fat, as he doesn't like coconut, avocado or olives. Any ideas? (I am hoping that he will decide to be willing to try to like some of these things, but can't force him!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jent103 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Have you tried to make homemade mayo? It's my FAVORITE. I, too, hate coconut and olives. I like avocado now, but didn't really when I started eating this way. I got a lot of fats from mayo (plain and/or made into various dips/aiolis/dressings), extra virgin olive oil, and the occasional handful of nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen_Suep Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Does he like ranch dressing? Because making mayo and spicing it up with seasonings (like herbs for ranch, southwest flavors for a spicy dip, etc) will give him fat. Also certain meats have loads of fat too (salmon, beef, bacon, etc) but make sure they are wells sourced as the toxins are in the fat! Roasting veggies in any oils will help too, but not enough to add a fat serving. Maybe modified recipes that call for heavy cream (Replace with cashew or coconut cream) will help and sometimes the flavors aren't overwhelming of coconut or cashews. Also, nuts help if you're really in a bind but many find they can either hinder digestion or be a no brakes food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtFossil Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Have you tried to make homemade mayo? It's my FAVORITE. I, too, hate coconut and olives. I like avocado now, but didn't really when I started eating this way. I got a lot of fats from mayo (plain and/or made into various dips/aiolis/dressings), extra virgin olive oil, and the occasional handful of nuts. Another person who loves homemade mayo. Also, make clarified butter (ghee) if he likes butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuthatch Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 (sorry if this ends up being a double reply - thought I responded, but don't see it here) Thanks for the ideas! Unfortunately, he also doesn't like mayo. I'm really hoping he'll give some things a try, but don't want to push. I did make a bunch of clarified butter, so that's definitely an option. I've taken to drizzling a bit of olive oil on my kids' food, as they're not big on the other fats, either, so that's something I can suggest. Any good recipes that might be good to try making if he's willing to give avocados, mayo, coconut a try? So glad for the ideas - thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen_Suep Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 (sorry if this ends up being a double reply - thought I responded, but don't see it here) Thanks for the ideas! Unfortunately, he also doesn't like mayo. I'm really hoping he'll give some things a try, but don't want to push. I did make a bunch of clarified butter, so that's definitely an option. I've taken to drizzling a bit of olive oil on my kids' food, as they're not big on the other fats, either, so that's something I can suggest. Any good recipes that might be good to try making if he's willing to give avocados, mayo, coconut a try? So glad for the ideas - thanks! I don't like mayo either... Until I've tried not typical groceries store mayo. Something about homemade or less than 5 ingredient mayo at the store (primal kitchens. A little pricey but I like it!) I know other people are the same way. If he likes creamy salad dressings, many use mayo as a base and can easily made w30 compliant. I didn't like avocados until I had tableside made guac at a restaurant in San Antonio. I think the splash of OJ made it. I also like smooshing it in soups to make it a little more creamy. Some olive oil tastes a lot like olives. I use avo oil a lot too. It has a relatively neutral/buttery flavor (at least the stuff I get at Costco) and goes with a lot of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 If all else fails, a lot of the blokes really like duck and chicken fat, but they're harder to use than something more flexible like mayo Try a few different mayos, different oil can change the taste a lot. Once you find a base mayo you like, there's even more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I don't like sweet coconut, but I like coconut milk/cream in thai curries and coffee (if you have an immersion blender for the coffee, it's great!). If it's a texture issue, you may need to add fat into things like soups and blend them, have a small serve of soup with meals. If you're trying to hide fat, emulsifying or blending it means it's not visible and helps to give it a different texture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted April 5, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 5, 2016 (sorry if this ends up being a double reply - thought I responded, but don't see it here) Thanks for the ideas! Unfortunately, he also doesn't like mayo. I'm really hoping he'll give some things a try, but don't want to push. I did make a bunch of clarified butter, so that's definitely an option. I've taken to drizzling a bit of olive oil on my kids' food, as they're not big on the other fats, either, so that's something I can suggest. Any good recipes that might be good to try making if he's willing to give avocados, mayo, coconut a try? So glad for the ideas - thanks! There's a chance he doesn't like store bought mayo but home made mayo is NOTHING like storebought mayo... make a batch and get him to try it? You could try making sunshine sauce (find it on www.meljoulwan.com) but it's not ideal for a primary fat source because it's nut/seed butter based. Might get him used to sauces tho. You could google and find a pesto or chimichurri sauce that would be compliant or could be made compliant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen_Suep Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 There's a chance he doesn't like store bought mayo but home made mayo is NOTHING like storebought mayo... make a batch and get him to try it? You could try making sunshine sauce (find it on www.meljoulwan.com) but it's not ideal for a primary fat source because it's nut/seed butter based. Might get him used to sauces tho. You could google and find a pesto or chimichurri sauce that would be compliant or could be made compliant? Most pesto sauces call for Parmesan, BUT that can easily be omitted for a homemade awesome. And homemade mayo is a game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted April 5, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 5, 2016 Most pesto sauces call for Parmesan, BUT that can easily be omitted for a homemade awesome. And homemade mayo is a game changer. Ya, I've never used the parm... there are actually great recipes out there for a pesto with walnuts instead of pine nuts (in case you're not independently wealthy to buy the pine nuts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen_Suep Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Ya, I've never used the parm... there are actually great recipes out there for a pesto with walnuts instead of pine nuts (in case you're not independently wealthy to buy the pine nuts). Or other herbs instead of basil. Seriously pesto is my soul food. I think I was Italian in another life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuthatch Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 This is great - thanks so much everyone! Thanks for the reminder of pesto - that's something I was wanting to try making. And I'll definitely see if he'll try the homemade mayo - or just disguise it somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I never liked mayo either until I made my own. Now I go through two batches per week! Also, I second the pesto, chimmichurri, duck fat, lard, tallow, and ghee suggestions. ALL so good! How about using mayo in crab cakes, tuna salad, or making it into a dressing to put on lettuce or meat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jent103 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Oh yeah, chimichurri is awesome! Here's a recipe if you need one. http://meljoulwan.com/2014/07/02/chimichurri-aka-magic-sauce/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaGirl Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Ghee Ghee Ghee Has he tried a spoonful of coconut Butter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuthatch Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 I tried making carmelized coconut chips today (here) - which were amazing - and he tried those and liked them. So one success I'll try some other things, too - including ghee & coconut butter. Learning as we go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMoreno Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I went to Whole Foods hoping I could find ghee but the only one they has was in a can and these are the ingredients: certified organic butter (milk). Is this compliant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ShannonM816 Posted April 10, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 10, 2016 I went to Whole Foods hoping I could find ghee but the only one they has was in a can and these are the ingredients: certified organic butter (milk). Is this compliant? Yes. Because ghee is made from butter, it will always list butter in the ingredients. To be ghee, they must have cooked it and removed the milk solids, leaving nothing but the fat. That's why ghee or clarified butter are okay on Whole30 -- the problematic part of butter is those milk solids which are removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted April 10, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 10, 2016 It just occurred to me... what if you try sun dried tomatoes packed in olive oil? If you put a heaping topping of those on some chicken, it's not only delicious but it will provide fat... You may have to supplement, or make sure you get a good spoon of the oil from the jar in the serving but it's delicious and a different way to get good fats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaGirl Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 My Whole Foods carries Ghee in a Glass Jar.. Look in the refrigerator section.. But note, that once home you do not need to keep it in the fridge. Counter top is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Oh and I forgot chicken wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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