little_muffin Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I am now on day 16 of my W30 and really loving the way I am eating, the only thing I am mising is my milky coffee. However, I have just been looking through things again as a refresher and have come across 'no snacking or eating every 2 hours'. This has completely thrown me as I have been doing with some fresh veg, chicken thighs & nuts/seeds. Should I be avoiding this? My diet yesterday was (this is pretty much how my diet is) 3 egg spinach and ham omelette (8am ish) couple of handfuls of fresh veg (carrots, cuvumber and yellow pepper) (10am) left over rump steak with brocolli & sweetcorn (12 midday) more fresh veg & 3/4 handfuls of mixed nuts & seeds (3pm) chicken breast and pepper stew (8 pm ish) rather a lot of grapes (9ish) I haven't lost any weight (don't know about inches) am sleeping better but still don't have much energy during the day. I thought by day 16 I'd at least start to feel somehing. Am I expecting too much? Should I cut out the snacking for better results? Can you please give any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glimmer Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I am not an expert but I think the idea is to eat enough at each meal to get you to the next. Maybe add your snack veg and nuts to your meals? You haven't mentioned what/how much fat u are eating at each meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_muffin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Every main meal is cooked in either (1 tablespoon)ghee or (1-2 tablespoon)coconut oil depending on what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted January 16, 2013 Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2013 The best rhythm of your hormones is supported by eating every 4 to 5 hours, starting within an hour of waking from a good night's sleep. If you eat more frequently, you get the hormonal chemicals sloshing around in your body less efficiently. You really owe it to yourself to feel what it is like to have everything moving along properly. The best thing is to eat enough at each meal to be comfortable until your next meal. That can take practice, so it is okay to snack between meals when you are hungry. However, if you are always hungry between meals, you need to rethink what you are eating at meals. You might need to increase portion size or you may need to increase the amount of fat in each meal because fat is very important to feeling satisfied for a few hours. As glimmer mentioned, the direct route to changing your pattern would be to add your snack veggies and nuts to your meal. When it comes to snacks, it is really better to eat a mini-meal and not just some veggies or just some fruit or just some nuts. The whole idea of eating is to nourish your body, not to just fill your stomach. When I was getting adjusted to eating this way, I ate as much as 5 to 6 times per day, but then worked down to 4 or 5 and then down to 4 and finally after a while down to 3 meals per day. I am usually comfortable eating 3 times per day now, but still sometimes eat 4 meals. I usually try to eat supper at 7 or 7:30 PM. Last night I ate at 6:30 and felt kind of hungry by 8:30, so I added another "meal" - a can of sardines and a baked sweet potato with dried cranberries and macadamia nuts. I recommend such mini-meals when you are hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_muffin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 thanks so much Tom, when you say increase the fat, do you mean with the likes of avocado, nuts etc or with what I am cooking in, i.e. coconut oil? your mini-meal sounds amazing, yum! will have to shop for things like that just incase i get hungry and try to keep snacks to that. i have 2 children and their meal time is 5pm where as our meal time is 8ish after they hve gone to bed. in theory, eating at 8 I should consume enough to keepme going til morning? I may have to have a mini-meal with my children as getting from lunch time to 8 may be a bit tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxisproject Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Is sweetcorn the same as corn? I didn't think we could have corn at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_muffin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 i thought it was pes we couldn't have?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheresanita Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Sorry(!)..corn is a no go.. "Do not eat grains. This includes (but is not limited to) wheat, rye, barley, oats, corn, rice, millet, bulgur, sorghum, amaranth, buckwheat, sprouted grains and all of those gluten-free pseudo-grains like quinoa. Yes, we said corn… for the purposes of this program, corn is a grain! This also includes all the ways we add wheat, corn and rice into our foods in the form of bran, germ, starch and so on. Again, read your labels." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_muffin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 It's not corn, it's sweetcorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_muffin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 I'll hve to leave this one to a moderator, i alwys thought that sweetcorn was allowed, it's not the grain it's the veg. If it's not, i may as well restart ths w30 as i've had it every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenderbender Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Sweet corn is eaten/canned/ frozen/ processed before it matures and dries like your typical grains and therefore seems like a veg, but even though it might sneak in under a technicality( MOD please clarify) I don't believe anyone would be doing themselves any favors by eating it.... Where do you think high fructose corn syrup comes from? Anyway....back on topic.... I used to HAVE TO EAT every two to three hours or I'd feel like going on a rampage!!!! Now when I eat proper meals according to the template, I barely give food a thought... Sometimes I go 5-6 hours and realize" hey dummy, you need to eat!" It's amazing what happens once all those nasty hormones level out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon Simpson Thumann Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 It's not corn, it's sweetcorn It is still corn. And it has a high sugar content. Corn is a grain regardless of whether it's on the cob or not. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_muffin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Boo 16 days in i'm goingto carry on just eliminate sweetcorn too then. i can't let 16days go to waste. i know i won't get the full effect now but i can't stop now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyhoward Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 16 days didn't go to waste - I'd just extend your Whole30 to a Whole46 to make up for what you might be missing out on by having the corn. I bet once you've gone without the corn in your diet, you'll start to feel the benefits that you may have been missing out on before. You've still done great things for your body and your health - now you'll be doing even BETTER things . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tom Denham Posted January 16, 2013 Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2013 thanks so much Tom, when you say increase the fat, do you mean with the likes of avocado, nuts etc or with what I am cooking in, i.e. coconut oil? I mean to increase fat by adding some avocado slices, guacamole, nuts, olives, coconut flakes, etc. Or choosing a fatty cut of meat like rib eye steak instead of chicken breast. Or one of my fatty favorites - bratwurst sausage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terez Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Boo 16 days in i'm goingto carry on just eliminate sweetcorn too then. i can't let 16days go to waste. i know i won't get the full effect now but i can't stop now A moderator may correct me but if I understand the program correctly, you could wait until day 46 or 47 to reintroduce grains. That would give you 30 days off grains but let you continue to manage the rest of your Whole30 and the reintroductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrayS Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I've found that one extra egg in the morning pushes off my next meal by a full hour. A full hour! That's the difference between lunch break at 11 or 12 (I prefer 12). Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Strathdee Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Boo 16 days in i'm goingto carry on just eliminate sweetcorn too then. i can't let 16days go to waste. i know i won't get the full effect now but i can't stop now There's no such thing as waste when you're making a genuine effort Like the others suggested, I'd just add those 16 days back to the end of the program (chances are you'll just be hitting your peak about that time and you won't want to stop anyway ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_muffin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 thanks so much for all of your replies. i will try the 46 days without the grains but myproblem is that I have my daughters 1st birthday (alcohol) valentine's day (chocolates) and my birthday in that time. Grains aren't a problem now i know that sweetcorn is a no go too but alcohol may well be an issue over this period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Strathdee Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Can I ask why it's important/significant for you to drink alcohol on your daughter's first birthday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Christensen Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I was thinking the same thing. The Whole30 is a time to reevaluate if the things we do to celebrate, when we are bored, for holidays, etc. are truly healthy not just for our body but our mind. A one year old's birthday seems like a time I wouldn't even consider drinking let alone planning on it being a struggle not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junelily Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I come from a large extended family where first birthdays are a huge celebration, lots of food, drinks etc., so I can see where she is coming from. It would be a hurdle but doable with a change in mindset 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_muffin Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 I have a large family too & celebrations very much involve lots of food & drink. I have almost given up drinking prior to this as it makes me feel very sick & have had severe boughts of vomitting when I haven't had very much. I just don't want to deny myself a drink if I want one on her birthday, I'm not going to go out there lookingfor a drink but equally, champagne is called for and I don't want to deny myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellytelly Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Little_muffin - if it helps, we celebrated my youngest daughters 1st birthday last weekend (it was Day 7 for my husband & I). I usually do enjoy a glass of wine once or twice a week but the truth is, that was the last thing I would have caved for on my daughters birthday. I had a much harder time avoiding the pizza, cheesecake & ice cream (especially since my husband & I were serving...we didn't even lick our fingers!) A few things we did was, besides serving pizza, we BBQ'ed some marinated chicken thighs (that truthfully got more rave reviews than the pizza that I totally felt like I was missing out on) & put out veggie trays with homemade baba ganoush (was also a hit). I wish I'd have thought to have fresh fruit with whipped coconut milk while everyone indulged on strawberry cheesecake. For me, I felt a tiny bit of guilt for not even having a bite of my daughter's very 1st birthday but I reminded myself that she will have many, many more that I can enjoy with her when I'm not doing a Whole30. I'm not at all trying to say it will be easy but I'm just hoping I can encourage you because there will always be an event / occasion that will come up during a Whole30 (or 45 or...)....valentines day, St. Paddy's day, Easter, opening night of NHL hockey!!! , etc. Both of my sisters will have celebrated their bdays during my Whole30. It'll be soda water with olives at the bar. You can do it if you choose to & I'm certain it'll worth it. good luck, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellytelly Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Little_muffin - if it helps, we celebrated my youngest daughters 1st birthday last weekend (it was Day 7 for my husband & I). I usually do enjoy a glass of wine once or twice a week but the truth is, that was the last thing I would have caved for on my daughters birthday. I had a much harder time avoiding the pizza, cheesecake & ice cream (especially since my husband & I were serving...we didn't even lick our fingers!) A few things we did was, besides serving pizza, we BBQ'ed some marinated chicken thighs (that truthfully got more rave reviews than the pizza that I totally felt like I was missing out on) & put out veggie trays with homemade baba ganoush (was also a hit). I wish I'd have thought to have fresh fruit with whipped coconut milk while everyone indulged on strawberry cheesecake. For me, I felt a tiny bit of guilt for not even having a bite of my daughter's very 1st birthday but I reminded myself that she will have many, many more that I can enjoy with her when I'm not doing a Whole30. I'm not at all trying to say it will be easy but I'm just hoping I can encourage you because there will always be an event / occasion that will come up during a Whole30 (or 45 or...)....valentines day, St. Paddy's day, Easter, opening night of NHL hockey!!! , etc. Both of my sisters will have celebrated their bdays during my Whole30. It'll be soda water with olives at the bar. You can do it if you choose to & I'm certain it'll worth it. good luck, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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