Verbohol Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yes I read the book throughly... I am not sure if I understand about stevia.... I am aware that stevia is processed etc... but what about organic stevia leaf cut. I used that to help stop craving... I use to sweeten tea or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny M Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 All nonnutritive sweeteners are out as they promote metabolic dysfunction. Unfortunately substituting sweet with sweet won't help you get over sugar cravings. It's out for 30 days. Other things will soon taste very sweet to you like carrots and strawberries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyn1 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I know. I'm also trying to wrap my head around the no stevia thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Strathdee Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 This one is hard for many already "clean eaters" to get used to. Aside from any actual physiological issues that may occur, the bottom line is that stevia is used to either a) make things sweet that shouldn't be sweet or 2) make things sweeter than they are in nature. And, since one of the purposes of the Whole30 program is to reacquaint your taste buds with the flavors of real, whole foods, Stevia doesn't exactly fit the bill. I hope that clears things up a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karacooks Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Stevia is no different from honey. It makes perfect sense to me. If you're not allowed honey, then why would you be allowed stevia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayell Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Other things will soon taste very sweet to you like carrots and strawberries! This is so true. I had half a Korean sweet potato (the starchy ones) last night and it tasted almost too sweet. Others confirmed ordinary sweet potato flavor. Eating this way wakes your taste buds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyn1 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Okay, the re-training your tastebuds thing makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny M Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 There is a roasted cumin carrots recipe in the well-fed cookbook. THe first time i made it a couple weeks into my whole30 i couldn't believe how sweet the carrots were. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Maryann Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I had a handful of shelled almonds for a snack midway through my Whole30. I was stunned to find that almonds are sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mare Bear Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I had no fruit for the first 8 days then nearly melted when I tasted a grape tomato! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 There is a roasted cumin carrots recipe in the well-fed cookbook. THe first time i made it a couple weeks into my whole30 i couldn't believe how sweet the carrots were. Amazing. Today is my Day 30 and I had this carrot recipe for lunch. I've had it several times the last month, but I kept telling my coworker how much sweeter it was today. She tried a bite and thought I was crazy. "They're carrots. They're not sweet." she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucket Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 oh crap. I just discovered that the tea I love lists stevia leaf as an ingredient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstutesmun Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I have a difficult time with this one but know it's a must! I have stevia in my tea for years and that's about all i drink. It's gonna be the toughest for me to overcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmSocks Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I'm confused about why stevia is classified in Whole30 as a banned artificial sweetener. Some people have compared it to honey, which I do not understand, since the glycemic load of stevia is zero, while the glycemic load of a tablespoon of honey is 10. Our bodies don't process them the same at all. Our bodies don't metabolize stevia as a sweet. Although I know that stevia is available in a refined, processed form, it's also available as a houseplant to just snip a few leaves off the herb and toss into your recipes with all your other herbs. There's nothing artificial about an herb. If it's the fact that it's sweet that puts it on the banned list, then it seems as if other sweet herbs (ie angelica, lemon balm, violet, and bee balm) should be banned, too, but they're not. So from what I understand, our bodies don't process stevia as a sweet, it is a natural herb, and other sweet herbs are allowed but this particular one is not. Can someone explain to me what I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkor Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 No one is baking paleo muffins with angelica or bee balm. You can't sugar coat the fact that stevia is a sugar substitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmSocks Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 But people do stew rhubarb with angelica. And fruit juice is also used as a sugar substitute, but it is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtFossil Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, kirkor said: No one is baking paleo muffins with angelica or bee balm. You can't sugar coat the fact that stevia is a sugar substitute. You can't even stevia coat it! @WarmSocks, read Melissa's Sugar Manifesto. Quote Artificial sweeteners are also commonly problematic, as they are hundreds of times sweeter than the sugar found in nature but lack any genuine nutritional qualities. http://whole9life.com/2012/08/the-sugar-manifesto/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manley0702 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 2/4/2017 at 8:55 PM, WarmSocks said: I'm confused about why stevia is classified in Whole30 as a banned artificial sweetener. Some people have compared it to honey, which I do not understand, since the glycemic load of stevia is zero, while the glycemic load of a tablespoon of honey is 10. Our bodies don't process them the same at all. Our bodies don't metabolize stevia as a sweet. Although I know that stevia is available in a refined, processed form, it's also available as a houseplant to just snip a few leaves off the herb and toss into your recipes with all your other herbs. There's nothing artificial about an herb. If it's the fact that it's sweet that puts it on the banned list, then it seems as if other sweet herbs (ie angelica, lemon balm, violet, and bee balm) should be banned, too, but they're not. So from what I understand, our bodies don't process stevia as a sweet, it is a natural herb, and other sweet herbs are allowed but this particular one is not. Can someone explain to me what I'm missing? 1. People stress things like "glycemic load", but that's pretty irrelevant for the purposes of Whole30. I mean, practically if you're trying to lose weight, you should limit your sugars, but that's not a Whole30 concept. That's a concept you structure your Whole30 around.Both honey and stevia are used specifically for sweetening food that isn't naturally sweet so they're treated equally. 2. I actually agree with you on the fruit juice though the Hartwigs seem to admit that fruit juice as a sweetener is more of the exception than the rule. In other words, they're throwing you a bone with that. Instead of asking for more bones, just be happy they gave you something Personally, I don't use fruit juice as a sweetener (except that I drink LaCroix) because it feels like cheating to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haystackcabin Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 You know, if you eat stevia on Whole 30, it’s not like you forfeit your tax return for the next 10 years. I enjoy whole 30, but I don’t need the Hartwigs to “throw me a bone”. You are in charge of your own well being, after all. I’d rather not have dates and fruit juice and use stevia instead, and that’s what I will do on my tweaked Whole 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SugarcubeOD Posted September 24, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Haystackcabin said: You know, if you eat stevia on Whole 30, it’s not like you forfeit your tax return for the next 10 years. I enjoy whole 30, but I don’t need the Hartwigs to “throw me a bone”. You are in charge of your own well being, after all. I’d rather not have dates and fruit juice and use stevia instead, and that’s what I will do on my tweaked Whole 30. If you choose not to follow the rules of the program, you're an adult and that's your prerogative but please don't come on the main boards and encourage people to rebuff the rules because you don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura_juggles Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 You don't need to have dates or fruit juice or stevia to do a really successful Whole30. Cut out the stevia and other sweeteners for 30 days and see how your tastebuds change. It happens (happened to me); look at the people posting in the thread above you who said the same thing. Your body may not process stevia like it does sugar with the corresponding blood sugar spike and whatnot, but your brain processes it the same as sugar. It's sweet, I like sweet, give me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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